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So, maybe he'll be back starting partway into the season. It feels like many have written him off for whole season, myself included.
I don't think they are related. If Mendenhall wasn't ready to practice, I doubt they rush him back just because Redman is hurt.
Wow!What are they thinking?
My understanding is that if he is activated from the active/PUP and practices he will be ineligible for the in-season reserve/PUP.
Correct. From NFL.com:
Pretty sure they could have left him on PreSeason PUP until at least the end of August and then activated him for the regular season. No reason to take him off PUP right now if he weren't ready to practice now. Of course I guess he could start practicing now and still not be ready for week 1, but they didn't need to take him off of PUP right now just to have him eligible before week 8, they could have waited until the end of preseason to do that.
Doesn't sound like he's eligible for Regular Season PUP once he is removed from PreSeason PUP.
IMO it has everything to do with Redman's injury. Pittsburgh just became a complete wasteland for fantasy running backs this year. I think it's clear that Redman is now to be avoided. Mendy isn't pup eligible now so he's gonna be a start/sit nightmare for owners all year. If and when he does play, I wouldnt expect much out of him. Dwyer and Rainey might be your best bets for production as late round fliers. But if Mendy and/or Redman are questionable every week then you really can't count on Dwyer or Rainey much either.This is just my immediate reaction to the news and we'll have to wait and see what emerges. But at this moment The RB situation in Pittsburgh is clear as mud.
That's in Kansas.
NFL teams don't make roster decisions based on how it will affect fantasy football. The Steelers activated Mendenhall because they likely think he will be able to play sometime between week 1 and week 6 (which he wouldn't have been eligible to do if he had started the season on the PUP list). That doesn't mean he will be ready for week 1 - but does suggest that on some level they think he could be ready for week 6 or earlier.If someone can possibly explain how Redman's injury makes Mendenhall suddenly heal, I'd love to hear it. In fact, it would be in the Steeler's best interest to let Mendy stay on the PUP if they actually thought he wasn't going to be ready anyway - that'd open up the spot. The two situations are related (from a FF perspective), but the relationship isn't causal from an NFL stand point.
Hmmnnn.Its confusing.Why even bother with TWO designations of PUP lists if ONLY those players who begin the year on the preseason PUP are elligible for the regular season PUP?I'm sure if a player like Mendy is taken off the preseason PUP and should have a relapse of his original injury or suffer a seperate injury can then be placed on the regular season PUP otherwise they wouldn't have two types of PUP lists, they would only have one to avoid confusion.I do think that their is more to this move than meets the eye though.The Football Today podcast went over the Redman groin injury and they think it is a big deal and now the Steelers make this move.I think their is a connection between the Redman injury and this move.Per the PUP list rules, one thing is the Steelers can't put Rashard back on the pre-season PUP now so I imagine that means that if he can't play and they can't put him back on the PUP that they will have at least one roster spot locked up with Rashard till he can produce that otherwise would have gone to a ST or depth player.
Shocking. Ok, play conspiracy theory...1) This is a death knell for Redman...something's getting ready to go down with him (IR or something).
Everything I'm reading suggests that isn't the case. the language is like "IF they end the preseason on the PUP THEN they are eligble for regular season PUP." Odd.
wow Redman must be worse off than there letting on..what shambles the RB situation is in there...Forget Mendy he just has to still be months away(is modern knee surgery getting this advanced..ie: Welker AP)?...this is all about Big Ben, A Brown and Wallace once he gets back, Sanders and Miller will even have some value cuz the ball going UP UP UP in Pitt all year long or until a RB can get 100% healthy and produce and im not so sure that will happen. Its not like Pitt wasn't a pass first team for a while now anyways.
Considering that AP tore both his ACL and MCL the week before Mendenhall did and he was recently activated from PUP without any big conspiracy theory, I'd say its more than a possibility that Mendenhall was just ready to start practicing.
Last I saw he tried to practice with the groin injury and went down on all 4s in obvious pain. Next I saw he was also deal with a "hip injury". From there he had an MRI on one or both of the injuries he's dealing with (hip and groin), and said it "went well" but wouldn't elaborate on any findings. That was yesterday. This was today. Does seem like an odd sequence of events, but I'm unsure if they are related or not.
They would never do this unless the Redman injury is more serious than what they have released to date.As noted above, this morning's Football Today podcast speculated that the injury to Redman could be much worse than what the Steelers have been saying.Then a few hours later they make this move.Stay tuned because I wouldn't be suprised to see Redman PUPed or even IRed.
Adam Schefter just tweeted that Redman's injury is a hip injury - he'll miss the second preseason game but could be back to practice next week - doesn't appear that Redman's injury is serious, just painful right now.Doubt that the move with Mendenhall is related.
Redman can't be PUP'd.
From this morning's Football Today podcast.Go to the 16:00 mark on the podcast for the Steelers report.
The bolded is incorrect.In order for a player to be placed on the regular season reserve/PUP, they must have started the preseason on the PUP (therefore unable to practice) and remained there the entire preseason. If a player either begins training camp on the active roster (practicing) or is activated from the preseason PUP (and practices) during the course of the preseason, he forfeits eligibility for the regular season PUP.
Wow.No wonder I was confused, lol.
It is correct except for the all players elgibile for the regular season PUP blanket statement. The exception you gave is true, but a player must also begin training camp on the preseason PUP to be eligible for the regular season PUP. In other words, if a player begins training camp on the active roster and practicing he loses PUP eligibility.
Dude, when did anyone claim it was fantasy related?
With a healthy Redman, they have the luxury of being cautious with Mendy and let him sit on the PUP for the first 6 games. With an unhealthy Redman, they don't. And Dwyer is just now getting back to practices with his shoulder issue.
I'm not sure why you are saying all players are eligible for Regular Season PUP? It's pretty simple, the only time any player can be designated for the PUP list is at the beginning of the preseason. In order to go on regular season PUP, they would have to have stayed on the Preseason PUP for the entire pre-season and never practiced. As far as I can tell the only real delination between the two PUP lists is that during preseason a guy can be activated at anytime, whereas once the preseason ends, if they remain on PUP during regular season they cannot be activated until after 6 games.
Keep in mind if a player is on the PUP list they can use an EXTRA ROSTER SPOT, and at the same time wait for the player to come back midseason. So essentially they are tying up a roster spot that could be used for a player cut during camp, or a veteran RB.. Anything. Clearly thats not the case and I dont see any reason you hold up an extra roster spot when you KNOW A GUY CANT PLAY in 6 weeks. So I think it has a lot more to do with they think Mendenhall has a chance to play they anything else including Redman injury although the timing is interesting. I would say if I didnt have a prognosis of 4 weeks I wouldnt chance taking him off PUP. Any healthy player on the roster is better than one you know wont play!'J Giles Band said:'NJ said:
Thanks for clearing that up.PUP ONLY pertains to injuries in the preseason.If a player is placed on the PUP they can't practice with the team. Once they are taken off the PUP and practice with the team then they are inelligable to be placed back on the PUP.The benefit to the team is they free up a roster spot.The detriment is the player cannot practice with the team and the player cannot be activated for at leat the first six weeks of the regular season.-----------------Now I get it and it also clears up another mystery that I've had for awhile pertaining to the inordinate number of players who get placed on IR for the last couple of weeks of the regular season.I've noticed this and figured their must be a reason and its due to the fact that teams have players who limp into the final game and they want to get a look at the players on their practice squad. That much I figured out but I did not realize that any injury that didn't carry over from the preseason was inelligable for the PUP list. For some reason I thought the league had some way to put injured players on a list instead of only having the IR which prevents them from playing for the rest of the regular season.Thanks again.Keep in mind if a player is on the PUP list they can use an EXTRA ROSTER SPOT, and at the same time wait for the player to come back midseason. So essentially they are tying up a roster spot that could be used for a player cut during camp, or a veteran RB.. Anything. Clearly thats not the case and I dont see any reason you hold up an extra roster spot when you KNOW A GUY CANT PLAY in 6 weeks. So I think it has a lot more to do with they think Mendenhall has a chance to play they anything else including Redman injury although the timing is interesting. I would say if I didnt have a prognosis of 4 weeks I wouldnt chance taking him off PUP. Any healthy player on the roster is better than one you know wont play!'J Giles Band said:'NJ said:
