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Mid-season Fantasy MVP (1 Viewer)
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Aaron Rodgers
Doug Martin
Chicago
Doug Martin
Chicago
hes gotta be one of the best values so far. also agree on Bears D/ST
HurryUpSundays
Footballguy
The Saints defense.
Tony Jabroni
Footballguy
Nice.
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Adrian Peterson would need some consideration as well.
Seriously. There's a team in one of my leagues that started Fred Davis and Akers this week, but still is in 1st place in terms of pts scored. Largely because he has da Bears. (He also drafted well and made lineup adjustments in previous weeks. But he's still riding on the Bears coattails, much to the annoyance of the rest of the league).'jonboltz said:Chicago D/ST?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
to Rodgers. Ryan, Peyton and RG3 have put up similar QB fantasy numbers overall (although RG3 has been up and down), but were drafted much, much later than Rodgers was, so that alone makes them more valuable when discussing value and cost. And while Martin has been a beast lately, he was rather pedestrian his first five weeks. Consistency is important to being valuable.Dought Man
Footballguy
Tampa Mike has been nice value around round 16...where he was being taken on average.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Rodgers (or Brees) are a significant PPG advantage over every QB. That makes them both a much better (less risky) than first round picks like Charles, McFadden, Megatron, CJ, et al - basically most outside the top 3 RBs.I drafted Martin as an RB2 in the 4th - his pedestrian beginnings were still top 15 in PPR, and the consistency was definitely there. True, the last two weeks were a nice deviation.Anyway, based on responses it seems like we need a VBD MVP thread.
Banger
Footballguy
good value but I don't know that he's single handedly changed the course of many teams.
I didn't think was a question of "best value pick" unless I'm missing something. If it is, RG3 hands down. A high end QB2 to start the season holding his own w/ the top QB's? That's gold.
As far as the actual MVP, it would have to be from this list: Foster, Rodgers, & Brees.
As far as the actual MVP, it would have to be from this list: Foster, Rodgers, & Brees.
If that is your argument, it goes to P. Manning. He has a higher ppg than RG3 with a very similar adp.
Probably a coin flip, but I can accept either one.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Depending on your individual league's scoring system.In our 4 point passing TD, (-2) turnover, 6 point rushing TD league, RGIII leads Peyton, Brady and Ryan by a smidge (the range for those four is 21.64 down to 21.20).
Again, if the argument is VBD, sure, give it to the rookie who is declining or Peyton who is rising.
For me personally, Rodgers & Martin performances are reason I'm leading the league by almost 200 points (4th place - gotta love H2H).
For each spot
Quarterback = RG3
Honorable mention = Aaron Rodgers
Why = The difference in ADP
Running = Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin
Honorable mention = Arian Foster, C.J. Spiller, Trent Richardson
Why = Peterson and Martin are 1 and 2 in my league in scoring and both steals in the late second and late third for their picks
Wide Receiver = Reggie Wayne, A.J. Green, Brandon Marshall
Honorable mention = Victor Cruz, Percy Harvin, Randall Cobb
Why = The top 3 have been as consistent as they come with either 1 or no crap games
Tight End = Rob Gronkowski
Honorable Mention = Heath Miller
Why = Gronk just keeps producing in PPR leagues he is already 20 points ahead of all other tight ends and I have a feeling this gap will widen.
Kicker = Lawerence Tynes
Honorable Mention = Matt Bryant, Greg Legatron
Why = 26 field goals already this year, are you kidding me that is a good year for most and he still has 7 games left.
Defense = Chicago Bears by a lot
Honor Mention = NY Giants
Why = They are 40 points better than any other defense, they also have 8 touchdowns this year and not one of those is from Devin Hester
Quarterback = RG3
Honorable mention = Aaron Rodgers
Why = The difference in ADP
Running = Adrian Peterson, Doug Martin
Honorable mention = Arian Foster, C.J. Spiller, Trent Richardson
Why = Peterson and Martin are 1 and 2 in my league in scoring and both steals in the late second and late third for their picks
Wide Receiver = Reggie Wayne, A.J. Green, Brandon Marshall
Honorable mention = Victor Cruz, Percy Harvin, Randall Cobb
Why = The top 3 have been as consistent as they come with either 1 or no crap games
Tight End = Rob Gronkowski
Honorable Mention = Heath Miller
Why = Gronk just keeps producing in PPR leagues he is already 20 points ahead of all other tight ends and I have a feeling this gap will widen.
Kicker = Lawerence Tynes
Honorable Mention = Matt Bryant, Greg Legatron
Why = 26 field goals already this year, are you kidding me that is a good year for most and he still has 7 games left.
Defense = Chicago Bears by a lot
Honor Mention = NY Giants
Why = They are 40 points better than any other defense, they also have 8 touchdowns this year and not one of those is from Devin Hester
Lobary
Footballguy
This times infinity.There's no question in my mind it's Foster. He's Mr. Consistency and if you own him, you've got a goldmine at RB1 who doesn't put up stinkers and always has the potential to go off for a multiple TD game.
Lobary
Footballguy
Gronk, okay, but what about Owen Daniels? I give him the edge over Heath Miller because he's a better playmaker who racks up more yardage totals and is more likely to score long TDs. OD is also a target magnet for Schaub inside the red zone.
purestrength
Footballguy
Peyton needs to be in the discussion. He was drafted later than Ryan in most leagues I entered.
It is the half way point for both of them and in PPR Miller edges him out by a couple of points and you could get him later in the draft.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. Charles is a good example against Martin as well. Charles is still a top 10 RB in most scoring systems, but he got nearly half of his points in one freaking game. That is why you have to look at week to week consistency rather than just looking at what players have scored the most. Granted, Martin has been much better than Charles if you take out both guys' monster single games, but you still have to look at how a player does from week to week.
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King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
in one of my leagues, all 5 of my wins are directly related to the bears d/s.
For snake redraft it's Arian Foster. Drafting at the top puts a huge emphasis on your first pick. You build your team around that guy and to have him perform appropriately for his draft position is huge. Look at the top teams in your leagues. My guess is a significant fraction of them have him rostered.
If you could redraft this season today and you had the first pick, who would you choose? The answer is Foster.
Brees is second, but its a distant second because there are other viable top drafted QBs, many more than there are RBs (and RB is more important assuming you aren't in a 2 QB league).
If you could redraft this season today and you had the first pick, who would you choose? The answer is Foster.
Brees is second, but its a distant second because there are other viable top drafted QBs, many more than there are RBs (and RB is more important assuming you aren't in a 2 QB league).
Brees isn't even in the discussion this year, he was drafted as the second or third quarterback. After tonight he will probably be 3rd in points for quarterbacks behind RG3 and just ahead of Ryan, and Peyton all who were drafted at least 2 round after him if not more.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
JJ Watt
thatguy
Footballguy
Word.Also for IDP, Luke Kuechly for value. And Daryl Washington for complete studliness. And Charlies Tillman for both.
thatguy
Footballguy
In fairness, RGIII has played 2 more games than Brees coming into tonight's game, and will have played one more game than him, and most if not all of the other top QB's after tonight's game.
oukurt
Footballguy
Do you take Martin or Foster the rest of the season?Oh and I think B Marshall is the clear MVP. Amazing season.
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Ya'll are crazy with some of these answers. Cobb? Come on man. There are 3 nominations up for vote:
Arian Foster
Drew Brees
Chicago Bears D/ST
At the moment, there are no WR/TE/K worthy of a Mid-season Fantasy MVP award.
If you want to talk "best value" award, that's another thread I suppose, with lots of possibilities.
Arian Foster
Drew Brees
Chicago Bears D/ST
At the moment, there are no WR/TE/K worthy of a Mid-season Fantasy MVP award.
If you want to talk "best value" award, that's another thread I suppose, with lots of possibilities.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Drew Beers has been money
Doug Martin has had 2 nuclear weeks
Brandon Marshall has been terrific with 5 different 20+ weeks in PPR and on pace for 14 TDs
Chi Def /ST 7 weeks of double digits, 4 weeks of 20+ in most of my leagues.
Doug Martin has had 2 nuclear weeks
Brandon Marshall has been terrific with 5 different 20+ weeks in PPR and on pace for 14 TDs
Chi Def /ST 7 weeks of double digits, 4 weeks of 20+ in most of my leagues.
