Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
I heard this on ESPN radio on the way home from work tonight.
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Montee Ball returning for senior season (1 Viewer)
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smackdaddies
Footballguy
Projected to only go in the 3rd, so he stayed in (link)Good news for the Badgers, cept for the fact they have no qb.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Well...seems like the norm (not having a QB).
Xue
Footballguy
Where did he think he was getting drafted? His value next year will be the same as this year. It can only go down, not up.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
When has a Wisky RB been any more than a #2 RB in the NFL anyway??
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Alan ameche
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Who?Lets keep this last 20 years or so.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Sure, change the rules
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Who was, again, essentially a #2 RB or 3DRB and he's possibly the only Wisky RB that breaks the mold as a speed back.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Ahman Green went to Nebraska which has similarly colored uniforms to Wisconsin and is only a couple states away.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Looks like he wanted to stick with door #1.
JaxBill
Footballguy
He must not watch Mythbustershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUgbcBZxmnE
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Badgers have had quite a few good QB - true, not very good (never mind great) NFL qb, but certainly some have had great college careers, and several have had good NFL careers as backups, usually because they are smart, know the pro style offense and have good fundamentals. Bollinger, Sorgi, Wright, Tolzien
sho nuff
Footballguy
Which is why it does not worry me. Those guys were just guys...they looked pretty good with a fine OL and running game behind them.
sho nuff
Footballguy
When has a Jeff Tedford QB ever done anything great in the NFL?BTW...Aaron Rodgers says hi.Not saying Ball will be great at the next level...but just saying because he is a Wisky RB...is pretty lazy IMO. He is unlike most of the other RBs they have had. Better compliment of size, speed, moves, and good hands. Not the plodder like Clay and Dayne.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
First round talent at a third round price. Ball will explode on any team that will draft him. The team will erect a statue when his career is done.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
That was Dan Patrick's point this am and I find it hard to disagree with. As a Badger fan I am happy of course
notdarkyet
Footballguy
The NFL apparently told him he was a 3rd rounder. Seems thin at RB this season, I figured 2nd round for him.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Kirby
Footballguy
Why not stay and be a stud on a college campus for one more year... you can't change your mind and do that later. He can be an average nfl back that doesn't get drafted early next year.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
'sho nuff said:
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It's even weaker when talking about a school that's been through multiple coaches and systems during that time. If anything, the Tedford argument (which, as already pointed out, didn't work out) had even *more* clout than the Wisconsin one.When we're talking about different coaches and systems over a period of time, the notion that the colors that they wore on their shirt during college has an effect on their future NFL success is pretty off the wall.
cstu
Footballguy
Perhaps different coaches/systems but the one thing they never seem to lack are big O-linemen that make RB's look good.The Tedford thing made sense at the time and I was down on Rodgers. The two things he got that none of the other Tedford QB's did was time to develop and a good system. If he were thrown in the fire like Carr I think he would have been a bust too.
Interesting article about Tedford and his QB history.
EBF
Footballguy
Bad decision. He is thinking with his heart and not his brain.
Considering the season he had and the position he plays, he should take the money and run. It's unlikely that his stock will ever be higher. And it's not like he's a QB or even a WR, in which case the extra development would improve his NFL prospects. RB is a simple position and he won't improve much with another year. It will just mean more tread off the tire.
Considering the season he had and the position he plays, he should take the money and run. It's unlikely that his stock will ever be higher. And it's not like he's a QB or even a WR, in which case the extra development would improve his NFL prospects. RB is a simple position and he won't improve much with another year. It will just mean more tread off the tire.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Maybe he wants his degree and is one of those people that knows he won't ever go back to school once he leaves. Maybe he promised his mother or grandmother he would get his degree.
hauser42
Footballguy
I read that scouts were not sure how much wiggle Ball had. Due to the strenght of the Badger O-line he was getting to the second level untouched and this lead to a lot of big gains. Not sure that Ball has that top end speed that most teams like to have at RB aslo.
Ball is a lot better back than Dayne, PJ Hill, Clay and other backs that came out of Wisconsin. Most of the RBs ran over people, while Ball has better speed and a little bit of shake to get open. Ball also was used as a option out of the backfield in the passing game.
Ball can't be expected to come close to this season it was one of the best in a long time for a running back. Even with a top QB it would be hard to match this season. UW alwasy has a average QB and the RBs do a fine job.
FYI Terrel Fletcher hung around the NFL longer than most UW RBs.
Ball is a lot better back than Dayne, PJ Hill, Clay and other backs that came out of Wisconsin. Most of the RBs ran over people, while Ball has better speed and a little bit of shake to get open. Ball also was used as a option out of the backfield in the passing game.
Ball can't be expected to come close to this season it was one of the best in a long time for a running back. Even with a top QB it would be hard to match this season. UW alwasy has a average QB and the RBs do a fine job.
FYI Terrel Fletcher hung around the NFL longer than most UW RBs.
Xue
Footballguy
Matt Waldman compared Ball to Chester Taylor.
As for a current NFL'er, I see Ball as similar to Tashard Choice. Regardless of where he's drafted, he'll be a solid starter. But I don't see him as being a "superstar".
If anyone wants a poor man's Montee Ball, take a look at Davin Meggett, Maryland.
As for a current NFL'er, I see Ball as similar to Tashard Choice. Regardless of where he's drafted, he'll be a solid starter. But I don't see him as being a "superstar".
If anyone wants a poor man's Montee Ball, take a look at Davin Meggett, Maryland.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Kind of hard to gain weight and get faster, FYI Montee
Ball dropped like 20 pounds before this year. He used to be 230+. I guess he could gain some back, but the reason he dropped it was to add quickness and it obviously worked.
By the way, if I was a high school recruit with a chance at the NFL who played RB I would do everything I could go learn safety or WR or something. RB's just don't get drafted that high in today's NFL, and teams are hesitant to give them any money even if they blow up because of how short their prime is. Hardest position to make it these days.
By the way, if I was a high school recruit with a chance at the NFL who played RB I would do everything I could go learn safety or WR or something. RB's just don't get drafted that high in today's NFL, and teams are hesitant to give them any money even if they blow up because of how short their prime is. Hardest position to make it these days.
sheerterror
Footballguy
This is a painfully false statement.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
What, plyometrics are going to let him put on muscle and get noticeably faster? Is their some science Im not aware of?
The Hank
Footballguy
John Clay had a TD for the Steelers Week 16 vs. the Rams?
I thought Ron Dayne was going to be a monster... he was most assuredly not.
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benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
See how the careers of Felix Jones and Steve Slaton went after they added weight but "kept/improved speed"'sheerterror said:
