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No Davone Bess Thread? (1 Viewer)

Hank Mardukas

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Maybe it's embedded in another thread, but after his performance last night I'd have thought there'd be a discussion on this guy. I'm considering burning my #2 WW priority to get this guy, even though he's on a bye next week. Henne's 3 INTs certainly don't inspire a lot of confidence in Miami's passing game, but Bess was all over the field, runs excellent routes and is the clear beneficiary of teams trying to blanket Marshall. Could be a PPR monster.

 
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Hopefully he can get the help that he clearly needs.

Rotoworld:

The Miami Herald reports Davone Bess was Baker Acted back in March of 2013.
The term Baker Acted means to be hospitalized against one's own will, typically in a mental health institute. The Baker Act in Florida allows police to do this to an individual. Back in March, authorities were called to Bess' Florida home where they found the receiver incoherent and screaming about random things such as guns, drugs, and football while trying to be detained by a half-dozen men. On Friday, Bess was arrested at the Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Airport on assault charges. He reportedly broke a coffee mug on a police officer and got into a "fighting stance." The officer said it appeared Bess was under the influence of drugs and seemed to be "staring through" him in the altercation. Bess clearly needs help, and we hope he finds it. He's missed some time the past two seasons due to "personal reasons." Bess' stay in Cleveland is likely over.

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Source: Miami Herald
Davone Bess was arrested for assaulting a police officer/firefighter Friday morning at Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Airport.

Bess has been in the news recently, and not for reasons you'd want to be in the news. He's posted photos online of what appears to be marijuana the past few weeks and left the Browns ahead of Week 15 for personal reasons. There are no further details on Bess' Friday-morning arrest, but he was taken into custody shortly after 6 AM local time. He's coming off one of the worst seasons of his career.

Jan 17 - 9:07 AM

Source: CBS Miami
Browns placed WR Davone Bess on the reserve/NFI list.

Bess didn't practice on Thursday or Friday and is dealing with a "serious family issue." He won't play in the final two games and the move officially ends his season. Bess will finish with just 42 catches for 362 yards and two touchdowns, while leading the NFL with 14 drops. He signed a four-year, $14.18 million extension with the Browns back in April, but will likely face competition for slot duties in 2014.

Sat, Dec 21, 2013 01:46:00 PM
 
Very sad and unfortunately we Phinfans have seen this happen before with Ricky Williams. Bess is no longer in Miami but as a former player here, he was a model teammate and someone I know the coaches liked a lot. Fans were sad to see him leave but he was never a good starting WR, best suited as a 3 or a 4.

I hope he can get it together because what he did at the airport is most certainly due to drugs. Don't cry, he got almost $6M guaranteed from Cleveland when he signed, he's good.

 
So the Browns had a guy playing the #3 WR who was Baker Acted. Ok. Further proof that a lot of these guys coaching in the NFL are really not that bright. They kept sticking this guy out there even after he killed drive after drive with his drops.

 
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It also shows that the Browns due diligence in knowing their players is quite possibly lacking, as that Baker Act incident was in March last year, and in April they signed him to a 4 year contract extension.

 
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It also shows that the Browns due diligence in knowing their players is quite possibly lacking, as that Baker Act incident was in March last year, and in April they signed him to a 4 year contract extension.
Genius. Who did that? Lombardi? If so, he must be a superstar on his knees as he is still employed.

 
Davone Bess arrested, hospitalized 10 months ago

By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com

January 17, 2014 8:12 pm ET

Browns wide receiver Davone Bess' run-ins with authorities date back at least 10 months -- and just one month before the Dolphins traded him to the Browns -- when he was arrested in his Cooper City, Fla. home.

That time, it took six deputies from the Broward Sheriff's Office to restrain him as he yelled “Hide the guns!” “Where is my weed?” and “I want to get in the end zone; throw me the football!," according to the incident report obtained by the Miami Herald's Adam Beasley.

More from Beasley:

When the first deputy arrived, he noted a strong smell of cannabis coming from the master bedroom. The deputy also observed several males trying to restrain an agitated, incoherent Bess, who was trying to throw them off. He started screaming about guns and drugs and football. Efforts by fire rescue to sedate him were unsuccessful.

Finally, a half-dozen cops were able to pin him down. Bess was taken to Memorial East Hospital for observation.

Bess' mother, Chinell Carpenter, had flown in that day from California after receiving a call that her son was not acting like himself. She said then that Bess had not slept in three days and was going through some serious personal issues. Carpenter added that Bess had no prior psychiatric history and was on no medication.
Bess' family had him hospitalized against his will, and a month later, the Dolphins shipped him to Cleveland. A Browns spokesman said Friday that the team is aware of the situation and currently gathering more information.

Meanwhile, Bess, who played in 14 games during the 2013 season and caught 42 passes for 382 yards and 2 touchdowns, has been under scrutiny in recent days. First, he posted photos to Twitter of what appears to be marijuana. And Friday, he was arrested for allegedly assaulting an officer at the Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood (Fla.) International Airport.

According to the incident report, Bess was walking through the airport concourse "acting irrationally." When he was approached by a Broward Sheriff's Office deputy who works the airport detail, Bess crushed a cup of coffee on the deputy and assumed a fighting stance.

After backup arrived, Bess surrendered and was taken into custody.

Later, after Bess was bonded out of jail, CBS-4 asked him what he would do next.

“Get back to helping kids all over the world,” Bess responded.

Bess missed the final two games of the 2013 season after the Browns placed him on the non-football injury list. And the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that Bess had been dealing with personal issues for some time and had been battling insomnia. He had flown back to Florida to seek treatment.

If the Browns decide to cut ties with Bess they can't do so until after the Super Bowl; all rosters for teams not taking part in then postseason are frozen until then.
 
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It also shows that the Browns due diligence in knowing their players is quite possibly lacking, as that Baker Act incident was in March last year, and in April they signed him to a 4 year contract extension.
To be fair, that Baker Act to my knowledge was never leaked to the local media down here. When he was traded in April there wasn't any mention of it that I heard. I don't know if you can fault a team for not having information they have no access to. But if it was open and out there and perhaps something some of us never saw, yeah well maybe Cleveland then deserves a scolding.

 
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It also shows that the Browns due diligence in knowing their players is quite possibly lacking, as that Baker Act incident was in March last year, and in April they signed him to a 4 year contract extension.
To be fair, that Baker Act to my knowledge was never leaked to the local media down here. When he was traded in April there wasn't any mention of it that I heard. I don't know if you can fault a team for not having information they have no access to. But if it was open and out there and perhaps something some of us never saw, yeah well maybe Cleveland then deserves a scolding.
You don't think teams have access to information that the rest of the public doesn't have?

 
I really feel like if this guy took Performance Enhancing Drugs he really could have been something. Looks like he was only messing with the non-Performance Enhancing kind, shame...

 
Rotoworld:

The Miami Herald reports the Dolphins didn't tell the Browns about Davone Bess' apparent instability before trading him on draft weekend.
The Dolphins knew Bess had issues, but they took a "don't-ask-don't-tell approach" on the subject when they were shopping Bess and eventually trading him. Cleveland then inked Bess to a three-year contract extension. Now, it's probably not the first time a team has knowingly pawned off damaged goods to another team, but this just adds to ex-GM Jeff Ireland's poor reputation. Owner Stephen Ross has said he wants to find a new GM who has "integrity."

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Source: Miami Herald
 
How long before the behavior that Bess is exhibiting is linked to concussions and CTE like what transpired with Titus Young?

 
Rotoworld:

The Miami Herald reports the Dolphins didn't tell the Browns about Davone Bess' apparent instability before trading him on draft weekend.

The Dolphins knew Bess had issues, but they took a "don't-ask-don't-tell approach" on the subject when they were shopping Bess and eventually trading him. Cleveland then inked Bess to a three-year contract extension. Now, it's probably not the first time a team has knowingly pawned off damaged goods to another team, but this just adds to ex-GM Jeff Ireland's poor reputation. Owner Stephen Ross has said he wants to find a new GM who has "integrity."

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Source: Miami Herald
It was a mental health issue unrelated to football. The Dolphins would likely have been violating all sorts of HIPPA provisions if they disclosed it.

 
Instead of helping Davone Bess, the Dolphins failed him

Gregg Doyel

One month after Dolphins receiver Davone Bess was committed to a treatment facility for psychological and mental health issues, the Dolphins traded him to the Cleveland Browns. Bess has been self-destructing in recent days, but that 10-month-old information from March 2013 is new and disturbing and has triggered a pointless debate:

Did the Dolphins owe it to the Browns to reveal Bess' issues before trading him?

That's what people are arguing, and it misses the bigger point. Because that argument, that debate, implies that Davone Bess is a chess piece to be moved about the board. One team moved him here. Another team acquired him there. Did the first team do right by the second team by keeping his personal issues quiet?

Forget that question, and ask yourself this:

Did the Dolphins do right by Davone Bess?

Consider, if you have not, what the Dolphins are reportedly guilty of: shipping a profoundly disturbed man to another city, where he has money and free time but no roots, no safety net. And they shipped that profoundly disturbed man to that city reportedly without telling his new team that what the Browns had acquired wasn't merely a receiver who had averaged 64 catches from 2008-12. The Browns had acquired a ticking time bomb.

And didn't know it.

But again, this isn't about the Browns. Did the Browns get screwed by the Dolphins? Of course they did, and not in a way that should ever happen. What Miami did to Cleveland was unethical, dishonest, unprofessional, unfair.

But Cleveland was treated great, compared to how Davone Bess was treated.

The guy has problems.

This isn't one of those cases where the meatheads among us can grumble that Bess is an adult and should be able to take care of himself. Because, see, he's not merely an adult. He's an adult with psychological issues. And those people are helpless.

Davone Bess, professional athlete. Three-year, $11.5 million contract.

Helpless.

This isn't an either/or scenario. You can be everything in column (A) -- rich, famous -- and still be in column (B): helpless. And Bess was helpless. Hell, he still is. In the last week he has devolved in a scary way, triggering an investigation by the Browns last Thursday by posting pictures on Twitter of marijuana, and one day later being arrested on charges of assaulting an officer at Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood (Fla.) International Airport. Bess reportedly was walking through the airport concourse singing and dancing with his pants falling down, then smashed a cup of coffee on an officer who asked him to stop. After that? After that, Bess removed his shirt and crouched into a fighting stance.

That was Friday. On Saturday, Bess tweeted a photo of himself standing in front of a mirror, completely naked.

This isn't fodder for snark, because this man is not well. The Browns apparently started to figure it out in mid-December when they put him on the non-football illness list for the final two games of the season, the worst of his career (42 catches), when he led the NFL in drops with 14.

Bess is not well, hasn't been all year, and the Dolphins knew.

And didn't tell Cleveland. Which means Bess -- who grew up in Oakland, played collegiately at Hawaii and spent his NFL career in Miami -- went to that new city without a chance. He had been committed by his family, against his will, in March 2013 after police were called to his house and found Bess ranting about guns and marijuana and shouting, "I want to get in the end zone; throw me the football!"

Davone Bess needed help.

The Dolphins traded him to Cleveland.

That's astounding negligence, and while the Dolphins have since parted ways with the snake who was running their football operations, don't be fooled. This place isn't cleaned up simply because the Dolphins are free of general manager Jeff Ireland, the same guy who asked Dez Bryant before the 2010 draft if his mother was a prostitute; the same guy whose response to the news that 300-pound Richie Incognito was bullying 300-pound Jonathan Martin was to tell one starting offensive lineman to punch the other one. Ireland, presumably, is the one who traded Bess to the Browns without making sure the Browns knew Davone Bess was going to need help in his new city.

But don't be lazy and assume Ireland is the only one in the Dolphins organization who knew about Bess' March hospitalization. Bess caught 321 passes from 2008-12, and was the Dolphins' punt returner in that time. He wasn't just an asset, but a valuable part of the team. So when he was committed in March, don't think for a second that coach Joe Philbin and owner Stephen Ross didn't know. Of course they knew. Ireland didn't just trade the team's leading receiver since 2008 without telling them why.

All of which makes Ross' mealy-mouthed talk about wanting to replace Jeff Ireland with someone of "integrity" so ludicrous. Integrity starts at the top, with the man who hired Ireland, kept him after the Dez Bryant fiasco, even kept him after Richie Incognito -- whom Ireland acquired -- tore his locker room asunder while the GM was telling Jonathan Martin he would help things by punching Incognito in the mouth.

Ireland is out of work, but Stephen Ross still owns the Dolphins. Joe Philbin still coaches them.

Davone Bess? He faces charges of assaulting a law enforcement officer, which means he faces jail time. Not the place to address his personal issues. That place was Miami in March 2013, but only if the Dolphins were a franchise run by decent people. They weren't.

And still aren't.
 
Rotoworld:

The Cleveland Plain Dealer guesses the Browns will release Davone Bess.

This is going to be a complicated situation. The Browns unknowingly traded for damaged goods in Bess, who had been involuntarily hospitalized in a mental institution six weeks before the deal. Then they gave him a four-year deal that included $5.75 million guaranteed. The Browns might have a case against the Dolphins to recoup some of their cash, but the NFL is unlikely to give them any cap relief. Bess had just 42 catches for 362 yards with two touchdowns and dropped 14 passes before leaving the team in late December.


Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
 
Browns plan to void Bess guaranteePosted by Mike Florio on February 13, 2014, 8:01 PM EST

After trading last year with the Dolphins for receiver Davone Bess, the Browns gave Bess a new contract. It included $3.067 million in guaranteed base salary for 2014.

Per a league source, the team plans to take the position that the guarantee has voided.

While the salary is guaranteed for skill, injury, or cap, Bess landed last season on the non-football illness list. While the Browns exercised their discretion to pay his salary for the rest of 2013, the team believes (we’re told) that the guarantees evaporated as a result of his inability to play in 2013.

Bess would have the right to challenge the voiding of his guarantee, and the final determination will hinge on the language of the contract between Bess and the Dolphins. Under Article 4, Section 9(g) of the labor deal, teams and players may negotiate the circumstances under which future salary guarantees will void.

During his introductory press conference, new G.M. Ray Farmer didn’t specify the team’s plans for Bess.

“We are in communication,” Farmer said. “I can’t comment too much about where the circumstance is. Just understand that we are concerned for Davone, and I think that’s the biggest thing, is to make sure that he gets the help that he needs. . . . The biggest thing is that Davone’s care and his concern is our biggest thing right now. The dates are inconsequential. Moving forward, we’ll make the decision that we need to make for our franchise, as well as making sure that he’s going to get the care and the things that he needs in the process.”

If Bess can’t play, and if his inability to play is unrelated to an injury, there’s no reason for the Browns to pay him. But voiding the guarantee doesn’t mean he’ll be cut; there’s a chance the Browns will give him time to recover, and an opportunity to earn his non-guaranteed salary.
 
Bess has now heard back from the Browns front office:

Browns released WR Davone Bess.
Just 11 months ago, the Browns traded for Bess and signed him to a four-year contract that included $5.75 million guaranteed. Unbeknownst to them, he was dealing with mental problems that resurfaced late in the 2013 season and landed him on the reserve/NFI list. Before that, he was among the least effective receivers in the NFL, catching 42 passes for 362 yards with two touchdowns and leading the league with 14 drops. The Browns are going to try to void the guaranteed $3.067 million Bess still has left on his contract.

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