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What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago
Nixon may have been a crook, but he was an extremely competent crook.Not better than Nixon.
I'm not entirely sure that's a good thing.He got us California.What did James K. Polk ever do for us?
Al Bundy's high school was named after him.He got us California.What did James K. Polk ever do for us?
Not with my tax bill. uke:Pretty sure you have to be American, living in America, to have an opinion on the worst president imo.
Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago
No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
[insert cost-benefit analysis here]Not with my tax bill. uke:Pretty sure you have to be American, living in America, to have an opinion on the worst president imo.
I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago
In 1844, the Democrats were splitWhat did James K. Polk ever do for us?
Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Also didn't start a major war on false pretense which killed thousands of Americans for little benefit and caused us to plunge into massive debt, so there's that.Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago
Low inflation rates have played their part. But, if we're going to pin bad markets on presidents we need to do the same when markets/indices set records. For sure, Bush saw that in his presidency, but when he vacated office, where was the Dow and where is it now? Hate the Dow? Me too....S&P January 1, 2009: 968.68. S&P today: 1864. Hand it to the man, man.I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago
James Buchanan is also usually high on the lists I've seen before.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
But you also left off Buchanon, whom history scholars almost always cite as one of the worst.Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Being partially responsible for the Depression is really bad, but gets an honorable mention in comparison.
Obama's starting to look pretty good though, isn't he?
TARP was probably the most important economic policy implemented in the 20th century. If anything, Bush was the reason there was no depression.Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Being partially responsible for the Depression is really bad, but gets an honorable mention in comparison.
Obama's starting to look pretty good though, isn't he?
:thumbsup:James Buchanan is also usually high on the lists I've seen before.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Obama will be on money someday and there will be a huge memorial in DC for him someday as well. I hope I live to see it. Even the great ones like FDR, etc. had partisans screaming how bad they were.
That was an oversight. Of course the dude who basically caused the civil war belongs on the list.But you also left off Buchanon, whom history scholars almost always cite as one of the worst.Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Being partially responsible for the Depression is really bad, but gets an honorable mention in comparison.
Obama's starting to look pretty good though, isn't he?
Okay, then that helps elevate Bush from the bottom run as being one of the worst presidents - which is where I personally rank him - but what has Obama done to screw that up? We're nearly 6 years removed from TARP and many of us are far better off financially than we were when Bush left office. Thanks Bush AND Obama?TARP was probably the most important economic policy implemented in the 20th century. If anything, Bush was the reason there was no depression.Yup, honorable mention considering the other guys on my list either made policies that directly led to the civil war, were bigots, brought the US close to a dictatorship, or was known best as having been a great poker player.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Being partially responsible for the Depression is really bad, but gets an honorable mention in comparison.
Obama's starting to look pretty good though, isn't he?
LEGALIZED WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED............ARE YOU NUTS????? LOST DECADE? I DON'T HAVE TO HIDE MY POT ANYMORE!He could have been worse.
As it is, he hasn't done much and that's probably just what the country needed for his first term. It's hopeless to think he'll focus like a laser on jobs and the economy now so it'll be just more of the same until 2016. Let's not forget the inept Congress too. Both sides have failed us. No leadership anywhere in Washington. Lost decade.
Not true. Vietnam was a disaster, but LBJ was considered the one most responsible for getting The Civil Rights Bill of 1964 passed, using the bully pulpit as President combined with his former experience of being a legislator.No, LBJ is the worst president we've had. Schlzm
Because fawning adoration is what makes a great President?James Buchanan is also usually high on the lists I've seen before.No mention of Hoover? Guy was partially responsible for the Great Depression.It's laughable to include Obama in the discussion as worst ever. The discussion of worst ever includes Wilson, Nixon, Fillmore, Pierce, Johnson, and Harding. My vote goes to Harding.
Obama will be on money someday and there will be a huge memorial in DC for him someday as well. I hope I live to see it. Even the great ones like FDR, etc. had partisans screaming how bad they were.
You are confusing time frames with policy. Obama just happen to enter office during a huge scare in the market. The scare was eased as a direct result of what Bush implemented. At the time the market started to bounce back strongly, nothing Obama did had any impact yet.Low inflation rates have played their part. But, if we're going to pin bad markets on presidents we need to do the same when markets/indices set records. For sure, Bush saw that in his presidency, but when he vacated office, where was the Dow and where is it now? Hate the Dow? Me too....S&P January 1, 2009: 968.68. S&P today: 1864. Hand it to the man, man.I am certain TARP is what termed the stock around. I am not sure how anyone could attribute any policy that Obama implemented to have any impact on something that started just a couple of months into his presidency. If you looked at what turned the stock market around it was directly related to the balance sheets of banks being stronger than expected.Killed Bin Laden, turned the stock market around, saved the auto industry and revitalized housing prices. He also legalized weed, permitted gays to serve openly in our military and has not blocked the rights of gays to marry each other.What did Obama do that was much different than Bush?GWB locked this one up years ago