^*^OFFICIAL^*^ 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread (1 Viewer)

[RnR]

So, I have no idea why there are Nats, O's, 'Stros, and even Pirates thread around here but not one for one of baseball's most storied franchises. It's time we make a change!

Let's talk some birds on the bat in here.

2011 through 4/29/2011

Standings

Central Division W L PCT GB HOME ROAD STREAKSt. Louis Cardinals 15 11 .577 - 6-6 9-5 Won 3Milwaukee Brewers 13 12 .520 1 1/2 8-5 5-7 Won 1Cincinnati Reds 13 13 .500 2 7-7 6-6 Lost 1Pittsburgh Pirates 11 14 .440 3 1/2 4-8 7-6 Lost 1Chicago Cubs 10 14 .417 4 6-8 4-6 Lost 4Houston Astros 9 17 .346 6 5-9 4-8 Lost 3Roster

Player	          Pos		      Bat	Th	Ht	Wt	DOB	Age Gerald Laird	Catcher	Active		R	6'1'	225	11/13/1979	31 Yadier Molina	Catcher	Active		R	5'11'	230	7/13/1982	28 Albert Pujols	First Baseman		R	6'3'	230	1/16/1980	31 Skip Schumaker	Second Baseman (DL)	R	5'10'	195	2/3/1980	31 Nick Punto	Second Baseman		R	5'9'	190	11/8/1977	33 Tyler Greene	Second Baseman		R	6'2'	190	8/17/1983	27 Ryan Theriot	Shortstop		R	5'11'	180	12/7/1979	31 David Freese	Third Baseman		R	6'2'	220	4/28/1983	28 Daniel Descalso Third Baseman		R	5'10'	190	10/19/1986	24 Mark Hamilton	Outfielder		L	6'4'	220	7/29/1984	26 Allen Craig	Outfielder (DL)		R	6'2'	210	7/18/1984	26 Jon Jay	Outfielder	        L	5'11'	200	3/15/1985	26 Colby Rasmus	Outfielder		L	6'2'	200	8/11/1986	24 Matt Holliday	Outfielder		R	6'4'	235	1/15/1980	31 Lance Berkman	Outfielder		L	6'1'	229	2/10/1976	35 Jake Westbrook	Starting Pitcher	R	6'3'	215	9/29/1977	33 Kyle Lohse	Starting Pitcher	R	6'2'	210	10/4/1978	32 Chris Carpenter Starting Pitcher	R	6'6'	230	4/27/1975	36 Kyle McClellan	Starting Pitcher	R	6'2'	215	6/12/1984	26 Adam Wainwright Starting Pitcher (DL)	R	6'7'	228	8/30/1981	29 Jaime Garcia	Starting Pitcher	L	6'2'	215	7/8/1986	24 Jason Motte	Relief Pitcher		R	6'0'	200	6/22/1982	28 Fernando Salas	Relief Pitcher		R	6'2'	200	5/30/1985	25 Bryan Augenstein Relief Pitcher (DL)   R	6'6'	230	7/11/1986	24 Eduardo Sanchez Relief Pitcher	        R	5'11'	170	2/16/1989	22 Mitchell Boggs	Relief Pitcher		R	6'4'	215	2/15/1984	27 Brian Tallet	Relief Pitcher	(DL)	L	6'6'	220	9/21/1977	33 Ryan Franklin	Relief Pitcher    	R	6'3'	190	3/5/1973	38 Miguel Batista	Relief Pitcher		R	6'1'	210	2/19/1971	40 Trever Miller	Relief Pitcher		L	6'3'	185	5/29/1973	37

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

After losing Longoria I snapped up Freese.

He's been okay. He's like the Mark Grace/Sean Casey of 3B--good average, not much else.

 

[Wrigley]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

 

[Brady Marino]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Well, ain't that just a kick in the head. /Cueto

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Nice avatar.The Cubs are still making money off a guy who has been dead for fifteen years.Kudos.

 

[Wrigley]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Nice avatar.The Cubs are still making money off a guy who has been dead for fifteen years.Kudos.

Pretty sure you have a point?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Nice avatar.The Cubs are still making money off a guy who has been dead for fifteen years.Kudos.

Hey now, they have to win at something once a century, don't they?

 

[Wrigley]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Nice avatar.The Cubs are still making money off a guy who has been dead for fifteen years.Kudos.

Hey now, they have to win at something once a century, don't they?

pfffft.......this is the Cardinal Thread.Funny thing Ghost, I was going to mention that you were only one of two Cardinal Fans on this board I get along with.

 

[RnR]

So David Freese is out up to 9-12 weeks after surgery on his broken hand. Huge blow to the team offensively. What are the odds that Allen Craig sees some time at 3rd when he gets back? Until then, I'm sure Tony LaRussa will have a full on love-fest with Daniel Descalso.

 

[RnR]

Anyone else concerned about Chris Carpenter? Not missing many bats. We can't win the division without him pitching like a front-line starter.

 

[madhatter]

Dude, everyone hates the Cardinals.

Well, ain't that just a kick in the head. /Cueto

giggle

 

[JZilla]

Man it seemed like there were a decent number of Cards fans here back in '06. Where'd they all go? Poor RNR. We care, buddy.

 

[Brady Marino]

Anyone else concerned about Chris Carpenter? Not missing many bats. We can't win the division without him pitching like a front-line starter.

He's getting beat up like a pinata. Westbrook not inspiring much confidence either.Who knew that Jaime Garcia and Kyle McClellan would be the Cards aces this year, not Waino and Carp. Bizarre.

 

[Raider Nation]

Check out Garcia's line tonight.

IP - 3.1

H - 11

R - 12

ER - 11

BB - 4

HR - 1

PC - 104

ST - 63

 

[Brady Marino]

Check out Garcia's line tonight.IP - 3.1H - 11R - 12ER - 11BB - 4HR - 1PC - 104ST - 63

Downright Ubaldo-like.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Amazingly, Garcia's ERA is still 3.28. He's been great this year, so I guess he was due for a stinker like tonight.

 

[RnR]

This just in: Jon Jay and Allen Craig can rake.

I wonder if they could get away with this line-up on a daily basis:

C- Molina

1B- Berkman

2B- Craig

SS- Theriot

3B- Pujols

LF- Holliday

CF- Rasmus

RF- Jay

The offense would be sick, they actually upgrade in OF defense, and all of those infielders are seeing significant time at those positions as is. Not like Schumaker is a defensive wizard anyway, and Descalso is best used as a reserve.

 

[Brady Marino]

Pujols is not a 3B. And quite frankly, if he were to leave to seek his $30 million dollar, franchise-crippling contract, I wouldn't miss him.

 

[RnR]

Pujols is not a 3B. And quite frankly, if he were to leave to seek his $30 million dollar, franchise-crippling contract, I wouldn't miss him.

I don't really dispute that. But is he really any worse at 3rd than Berkman is in right? Because I'll take the bat/glove combo of Jon Jay over the bat/glove combo of Descalso in the every day line-up.Also, I think he's cost himself a ton of money this season and may actually be more likely to return to St. Louis because of it, but that's a different discussion altogether.

 

[Brady Marino]

Pujols is not a 3B. And quite frankly, if he were to leave to seek his $30 million dollar, franchise-crippling contract, I wouldn't miss him.

I don't really dispute that. But is he really any worse at 3rd than Berkman is in right? Because I'll take the bat/glove combo of Jon Jay over the bat/glove combo of Descalso in the every day line-up.Also, I think he's cost himself a ton of money this season and may actually be more likely to return to St. Louis because of it, but that's a different discussion altogether.

Well, the Cards have been playing Craig at 2B, so LaRussa has done crazier things. But, everyone is still worried over Pujols throwing elbow and do we really want to risk disaster by having him make the long throws across the diamond? Plus, he's on the downslope of his career, so I don't think it's prudent to push him higher on the defensive spectrum at this point of his career.Berkman has surprised in the outfield by not being all that bad. But, how long are we tempting fate there? Berkman should be a 1B and maybe he'll get that chance next season with the Cards if Pujols leaves (which, I agree, is a different argument for a different day).Descalso has proven his worth as a utility guy and he should stay that way. Guy is cash money in the clutch. However, I'm not sure you can count on Jon Jay over the course of a 162 game season. He's proven to be good in spurts. He's a guy that probably needs a RH hitting platoon partner.

 

[rascal]

I've got $20 that Holliday goes on the DL soon.