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LSU defense looked great yesterday, but how much of it was just bad Florida offense? They were totally unable to connect on a hot route against those 6-man rushes, which LSU ran more and more frequently as the game progressed. That isn't something you're likely to see against Bama.
I don't disagree at all. But as bad as that defense was the first 4.5 games, I'll take anything
I agree about tech and tamu. Forgot how easily they disposed of tech.
What did you think earlier in the season? To me, LSU's always been the game Bama has to be most concerned with and that was before we saw the transition of Mett at QB. I will say that I'm on the fence with that defense though. I was expecting a lot more consistent.
Alabama fans have never taken the target off LSU, even with the big TAMU game early. We know who LSU is...a team who despite a huge number of losses in the offseason, is loaded talent-wise and plays a type of game that leads to consistency year after year.
Agreed...and this year, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it became a shootout...pretty much the exact opposite of a couple years ago.
was thinking Mizzou was a possibility but then looked at their remaining schedule. Uggh...losing Franklin is just devastating and don't think they can run the gambit or even go with 1-loss from here. UF this week, SC the next, UT and @ Vandy which they should still be able to win, but then @Ole Miss and vs A&M. So I agree, I like where SC is sitting in regards to getting to Atlanta.
What about the game? I was of the assumption everyone had this game circled as "the game" for these two through the season...certainly for LSU and just above A&M for Bama.I wasn't expecting the offense to be this good or the defense to be this badThe Commish said:
POS. TEAM W L KRACH LAST POS. KRA-tio LAST1 Alabama 6 0 7784.10 1 3 663.79 22 Clemson 6 0 6316.88 3 4 527.23 43 Florida St 5 0 5963.48 2 1 705.02 14 Missouri 6 0 5251.60 9 10 402.52 145 UCLA 5 0 3569.43 12 9 405.29 176 Oregon 6 0 3112.39 16 2 692.41 37 Ohio State 6 0 2996.58 5 13 370.79 138 No. Illinois 6 0 2597.60 11 63 175.42 619 Baylor 5 0 2288.34 14 7 456.24 710 Georgia 4 2 2222.16 8 19 316.84 1811 Texas A&M 5 1 2194.87 19 16 341.59 1512 LSU 6 1 2096.26 20 6 475.80 1213 Miami FL 5 0 2000.49 7 15 350.41 1114 Virginia Tech 6 1 1932.96 15 21 297.10 2315 Louisville 6 0 1836.18 17 5 497.51 616 Fresno St 5 0 1754.04 13 70 163.01 6717 Texas Tech 6 0 1659.13 18 11 382.51 818 Stanford 5 1 1327.20 4 14 354.15 1019 Auburn 5 1 1221.36 23 27 270.53 3320 Houston 5 0 1092.51 26 42 212.46 4921 Maryland 5 1 1072.25 24 31 252.70 2022 South Carolina 5 1 1049.12 28 25 279.15 3723 Nebraska 5 1 1019.29 30 22 293.60 2824 Michigan St 5 1 945.44 31 18 322.08 2425 Oklahoma 5 1 934.73 6 24 279.25 1626 Oregon St 5 1 896.64 41 35 245.05 5727 Utah 4 2 845.94 53 23 285.07 4128 Washington 4 2 764.63 21 8 431.46 529 Florida 4 2 679.08 25 17 329.92 930 Michigan 5 1 656.20 10 40 217.72 4031 Arizona St 4 2 593.91 38 20 305.24 2732 Notre Dame 4 2 583.17 27 53 198.27 5133 Pittsburgh 3 2 543.37 29 56 190.58 4534 Central Florida 4 1 536.41 39 32 248.99 3235 Ball St 6 1 529.50 42 48 203.03 4336 Northwestern 4 2 504.89 22 54 196.36 2937 Boston College 3 3 462.82 46 37 228.38 3938 Mississippi 3 3 452.33 49 51 200.91 6939 Oklahoma St 4 1 450.40 44 29 256.88 2540 Wisconsin 4 2 439.04 63 12 370.92 2241 Rutgers 4 2 436.74 32 69 164.04 5542 Southern Cal 4 2 401.02 57 34 245.75 3843 Penn State 4 2 390.99 62 36 233.85 3444 Washington St 4 3 388.29 35 52 200.36 3645 Brigham Young 4 2 378.71 67 26 271.63 4446 Tulane 5 2 372.45 65 66 167.04 7347 West Virginia 3 3 365.97 47 65 170.97 6248 TCU 3 3 361.83 55 33 246.31 3049 Iowa 4 2 361.63 50 38 226.63 4250 Rice 4 2 357.87 51 77 145.36 7751 Texas 4 2 348.10 79 55 193.79 8152 Boise St 4 2 345.94 60 41 216.48 5253 East Carolina 4 2 332.59 33 59 184.26 5454 Buffalo 4 2 329.84 48 61 177.87 6655 Duke 4 2 316.63 58 43 212.08 6056 Illinois 3 2 313.80 59 44 209.40 5357 Tennessee 3 3 297.95 52 50 201.37 4758 Arizona 3 2 291.70 36 28 264.55 1959 Indiana 3 3 291.66 43 30 253.07 2160 Ohio U. 4 2 286.32 34 68 166.07 4661 Mississippi St 3 3 283.76 76 57 187.67 6562 Syracuse 3 3 279.34 69 49 202.45 5963 Georgia Tech 3 3 264.89 40 47 207.12 3564 Toledo 3 3 259.87 64 73 155.29 7165 Minnesota 4 2 252.95 54 78 135.71 8066 Marshall 4 2 250.53 56 45 209.28 2667 Bowling Green 5 2 248.33 37 39 226.14 3168 Navy 3 2 229.91 45 76 145.37 4869 North Texas 3 3 218.89 72 64 175.26 7070 West. Kentucky 4 2 206.47 66 67 166.31 6371 Arkansas 3 4 198.77 61 72 157.27 5072 Colorado 2 3 180.60 68 84 118.49 8773 San Diego St 3 3 179.85 80 92 106.59 10074 La.-Lafayette 3 2 171.03 73 79 133.57 7975 Virginia 2 4 168.57 74 80 132.04 8976 Wake Forest 3 3 166.76 78 75 145.74 7677 UNLV 4 2 164.46 75 96 104.38 9178 Vanderbilt 3 3 147.54 83 60 178.71 6879 La.-Monroe 3 4 146.27 93 106 82.54 11180 NC State 3 3 144.33 70 83 129.75 7481 Kansas St 2 4 138.50 86 46 208.06 5682 South Alabama 2 3 132.24 85 81 131.63 8383 Nevada 3 3 124.98 82 82 131.04 8284 Kansas 2 3 121.30 77 93 106.32 9285 SMU 1 4 115.11 84 87 113.99 8686 Wyoming 4 2 115.01 81 71 159.25 6487 Troy 4 3 113.71 94 98 98.21 10188 Utah St 3 4 112.35 88 58 184.45 5889 Texas St. 3 3 111.40 71 88 112.35 7890 Arkansas St 3 3 106.67 97 101 90.91 10391 San José St 3 3 103.31 95 90 108.33 9392 Cincinnati 4 2 102.11 92 74 154.81 7593 Cent. Michigan 3 4 99.69 107 110 71.58 11594 Army 3 4 95.43 99 97 101.04 9995 California 1 5 88.39 87 95 104.87 8496 South Florida 2 4 81.73 102 105 82.83 10997 North Carolina 1 4 81.39 89 89 110.87 9098 Middle Tenn. St 3 4 79.00 90 109 79.83 10299 Kent St 2 5 76.61 91 94 105.19 98100 Iowa St 1 4 70.19 103 62 177.76 72101 Fla. Atlantic 2 5 70.12 96 91 108.29 95102 Memphis 1 4 61.33 105 85 117.60 88103 Akron 1 6 60.21 98 108 81.62 107104 Ala.-Birmingham 2 4 53.80 115 107 82.33 104105 Texas-San Ant. 2 5 51.79 100 100 95.55 94106 Tulsa 2 4 50.99 106 102 86.69 106107 Colorado St 2 4 47.34 101 99 96.39 96108 Louisiana Tech 2 4 45.72 110 113 69.45 112109 Kentucky 1 5 44.23 109 86 114.12 85110 Purdue 1 5 42.35 111 114 67.89 110111 East. Michigan 1 5 35.42 108 120 48.65 117112 Florida Int'l 1 5 31.68 104 118 51.55 119113 Idaho 1 6 26.04 113 123 42.83 121114 Massachusetts 1 5 24.72 118 119 48.91 123115 New Mexico 2 4 23.91 114 104 83.42 105116 Air Force 1 6 20.11 116 112 70.90 108117 Connecticut 0 5 19.86 112 103 85.78 97118 Hawai`i 0 6 14.71 119 111 70.93 114119 West. Michigan 0 7 13.23 122 122 44.90 120120 Georgia St 0 6 13.19 120 116 59.90 118121 Temple 0 6 10.17 117 115 67.88 113122 Southern Miss 0 5 10.03 121 121 45.86 122123 UTEP 1 5 7.18 123 117 56.54 116124 Miami OH 0 6 5.67 124 125 26.52 125125 New Mexico St 0 6 3.22 125 124 33.29 124The A&M game at the end of the year is the real kicker. Shaping up to be an exciting race in the East. If SC avoids an upset this weekend in Knoxville, the Mizzou game will be pretty huge.
And there we have it. Michigan unranked. Still think this team will be ranked with 3 losses?
3-2 over Dallas. Not a completely wasted day.
Do you plan on using just the AP throughout this whole "argument" or just when it suits your assertion?jurb26 said:
I know it's hard but try to keep up. I disagreed with the AP when Michigan was ranked 18. I agree with them now that they aren't ranked.
I'm stubborn when I'm right.
I'll add in Friday's UCF @ Louisville (this may be Louisville's toughest game this year) - take UCF and points
UCF has a solid team with a good QB, that should be a fun game.I'll add in Friday's UCF @ Louisville (this may be Louisville's toughest game this year) - take UCF and points
BYU @ Houston
Rice @ NMSU (ok, just kidding, this game will suck)
really good selection of games though
There's really nothing to keep up with other than the fact you're a blowhard of the worst kind. I was just trying to understand who/what you were going to use as a measuring stick to support your claims. Nothing more...I find it very refreshing that you make a claim and will stick with it regardless of what transpires over the course of the year...they need innovative thinking like that on the football committee.....just come in with preconceived notions at the beginning of the year and have those teams play in the playoff
Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
Yeah, they outlasted Akron and UConn. What else do you need to see?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
Well, they're not overrated anymore....Care to answer the question?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
Again, try to keep up. As I said if they win out I will reconsider.There's really nothing to keep up with other than the fact you're a blowhard of the worst kind. I was just trying to understand who/what you were going to use as a measuring stick to support your claims. Nothing more...I find it very refreshing that you make a claim and will stick with it regardless of what transpires over the course of the year...they need innovative thinking like that on the football committee.....just come in with preconceived notions at the beginning of the year and have those teams play in the playoff
This is exactly why they weren't ever over rated except apparently in jurb's eye.Yeah, they outlasted Akron and UConn. What else do you need to see?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
Well, they're not overrated anymore....Care to answer the question?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
So are they underrated now?This is exactly why they weren't ever over rated except apparently in jurb's eye.Yeah, they outlasted Akron and UConn. What else do you need to see?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
What are Michigan's losses? Are they by 30+ points to Ohio and Northwestern? while beating everyone else by < a touchdown? or did they lose at the buzzer to Ohio in regular season and again in the conference title game? while mixing in some beat downs between now and then? Does every good team in the SEC end up with 3 or less losses? same in the Big 12? and the Pac 12? do those undefeated mid major teams stay undefeated?Again, try to keep up.As I said if they win out I will reconsider.There's really nothing to keep up with other than the fact you're a blowhard of the worst kind. I was just trying to understand who/what you were going to use as a measuring stick to support your claims. Nothing more...I find it very refreshing that you make a claim and will stick with it regardless of what transpires over the course of the year...they need innovative thinking like that on the football committee.....just come in with preconceived notions at the beginning of the year and have those teams play in the playoff
The discussion was relative to Michigan loosing 3 games.
I've based my view on this season. I'm more than happy to hear about how they will justify top 25 ranking with 3 losses.
I think we have been appropriately rated throughout. Started in the bottom half, climbed after the Notre Dame win, continued to fall each week while sputtering vs. lousy competition but scratching out W's, then falling out when we finally weren't able to hang on.So are they underrated now?This is exactly why they weren't ever over rated except apparently in jurb's eye.Yeah, they outlasted Akron and UConn. What else do you need to see?Keep grasping at that Michigan is over rated straw, it's cute.I'm stubborn when I'm right.
Seems they are giving Mizzue a lot of credit for their win over Georgia. Too much IMO.Why in the hell is USCe only getting 7 points. Wow. And Mizzou w/o their starting QB, imo, should get housed by Florida. And by housed, I mean Florida wins by 7, which is a lot of points for that offense.
I can't imagine the Gamecocks have covered a lot of spreads this year with the end of a game collapses.Why in the hell is USCe only getting 7 points. Wow. And Mizzou w/o their starting QB, imo, should get housed by Florida. And by housed, I mean Florida wins by 7, which is a lot of points for that offense.
It's a trap game, good line. Tennessee's off a bye and have to be burning from blowing the Georgia game. South Carolina is coming off a beatdown and have more important games coming up, definite letdown potential. I wouldn't touch this game one way or the other because South Carolina is head and shoulders better and should win by 20+, but feasible this is a lot closer than it should have been because of either what I wrote or what Slapdash wrote.I can't imagine the Gamecocks have covered a lot of spreads this year with the end of a game collapses.Why in the hell is USCe only getting 7 points. Wow. And Mizzou w/o their starting QB, imo, should get housed by Florida. And by housed, I mean Florida wins by 7, which is a lot of points for that offense.
Where did I backpedal? It's cute that you won't answer the question. As I said before I think they loose 3 more games, not just 2. MSU, OSU and Northwestern. If Michigan only looses 1 more game I think they will be ranked. I still won't agree with it, but the voters will rank them IMO. They only chance of them being ranked with 2 more losses is if they beat OSU. That I find highly unlikely.What are Michigan's losses? Are they by 30+ points to Ohio and Northwestern? while beating everyone else by < a touchdown? or did they lose at the buzzer to Ohio in regular season and again in the conference title game? while mixing in some beat downs between now and then? Does every good team in the SEC end up with 3 or less losses? same in the Big 12? and the Pac 12? do those undefeated mid major teams stay undefeated?It's the middle of October, but please continue to back pedel from your stupid comment Saturday. Again, it's cute.Again, try to keep up.As I said if they win out I will reconsider.There's really nothing to keep up with other than the fact you're a blowhard of the worst kind. I was just trying to understand who/what you were going to use as a measuring stick to support your claims. Nothing more...I find it very refreshing that you make a claim and will stick with it regardless of what transpires over the course of the year...they need innovative thinking like that on the football committee.....just come in with preconceived notions at the beginning of the year and have those teams play in the playoff
The discussion was relative to Michigan loosing 3 games.
I've based my view on this season. I'm more than happy to hear about how they will justify top 25 ranking with 3 losses.
I feel like every game is a trap game this year. Last week was the only complete game the team has put together.It's a trap game, good line. Tennessee's off a bye and have to be burning from blowing the Georgia game. South Carolina is coming off a beatdown and have more important games coming up, definite letdown potential. I wouldn't touch this game one way or the other because South Carolina is head and shoulders better and should win by 20+, but feasible this is a lot closer than it should have been because of either what I wrote or what Slapdash wrote.I can't imagine the Gamecocks have covered a lot of spreads this year with the end of a game collapses.Why in the hell is USCe only getting 7 points. Wow. And Mizzou w/o their starting QB, imo, should get housed by Florida. And by housed, I mean Florida wins by 7, which is a lot of points for that offense.
iPad... Keeps auto spelling the words for me. I hate this thing when it comes to this stuff but its what I have when on the road. So you'd be shocked if they were unranked with 3 losses but they currently have only 1 and are in fact not ranked. Did you expect them to fall from the ranking this week?
Again, try to keep up.As I said if they win out I will reconsider.There's really nothing to keep up with other than the fact you're a blowhard of the worst kind. I was just trying to understand who/what you were going to use as a measuring stick to support your claims. Nothing more...I find it very refreshing that you make a claim and will stick with it regardless of what transpires over the course of the year...they need innovative thinking like that on the football committee.....just come in with preconceived notions at the beginning of the year and have those teams play in the playoff
The discussion was relative to Michigan loosing 3 games.
I've based my view on this season. I'm more than happy to hear about how they will justify top 25 ranking with 3 losses.
I'm not sure anyone's been more right about a poster around here than DD was....holy crap. You're gonna lose sleep at night when the polls are just 
talking points in the playoff era aren't you??
