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I think you made a wise choice. You have TE coverage, you have a sick starting lineup, so what you might be a tad short on "value". 2020 is THE year, that pick will appreciate in value and Ingram will be 30.menobrown said:
The last two Barkley trades have been a little odd, to say the least. This one isn’t terrible but i can’t see why anyone would do it. it’s taking on a lot of unnecessary risk while trading away the top dynasty asset.
I think you could take the 2020 1st out and it would be fair for a running back whose 30th birthday will be on championship weekend this year.
Finally a Barkley deal that at least males me sit up and go “hmmm.”
That's hard to figure out why anyone would pay that for Ingram. I'd not have paid that wherever FA took him but I think it took him to a really terrible landing spot. At best I give the seconds and that's only if I'm dying at RB, I don't put his value as worth half a random 2020 first.
Why do you say that? Look at what a "bum" like Gus Edwards was able to do in that offense - I actually see a pretty big year from Ingram.
What did Gus Edwards do for your PPR fantasy team? Just using weeks 11-17 when he came on he was RB28 giving you a whopping 11.7 points a game despite being on a pace to fun for almost 1500 yards prorated out. That's why. I don't have a lot of use for RB's that are zero's in the passing game and there is no better example of this then Gus Edwards week 11-17 performance vs PPR production. Ingram has more receiving ability then Gus, but won't matter much in this offense.
I realize that right now Jackson is not a great passer but I don't think that means they won't use a weapon like Ingram in the passing game. In fact the screen game should be a good part of what they do. I'm not expecting NO type receiving stats from him but 35-38 receptions doesn't seem far fetched. I also expect double digit TDs (combined).
It seems way overly optimistic to me. While Gus Edwards was motoring his way to a 1500 yard season pace he was on a TD pace of 5. Just don't see that kind of involvement from Ingram in the passing game or the screen being a huge part of what the Ravens do especially if teams try and utilize the 6 DB defense the Chargers used. Read today that what appealed to them with Ingram was they wanted a strong interior runner to join lead they termed a stable of RB's for their RBBC. Sounds about right to me.
I realize it seems obvious to only count the games that Lamar started, but the history of John Harbaugh's Ravens have been to fairly heavily involve the RB in the passing game. Ingram appears to be the player who is most likely to take on that role.
That's only 2-3 receptions per game - and Gus Edwards' pace doesn't really have all that much bearing since he was an UDFA out of Rutgers and nothing more than a tough straight ahead runner. Ingram is just as tough but more athletic and more useful in the passing game.
We'll see but I don't think history of his offense makes much difference. They've already said they are building this offense from the ground up around Lamar which to me implies they are scrapping what they used to do. Also of key not is I don't think Harbaugh had a lot to do with prior offensive strategy. He was a special teams coach before landing the job. He is more CEO/delgator/motivator and less of a X's and O's type tactician and I think the way you saw his offenses function was more based on the OC he hired and not him.
Ravens RBs averaged 2.3 catches in the 7 games Lamar started last season. You're saying it's going to be status quo, zero growth in an offense that you already said is going to be built from the ground up around Lamar. I am not saying that they are going to have a Ray Rice-esque 75-catch RB this season, but it seems silly to say that it will be exactly what it was last year.
Ravens RB's caught 17 passes in the 7 games Lamar was the main QB, an average of 2.4 receptions that's all the RB's on the team so yes to me that seems high. Kenneth Dixon is a pretty good pass catching RB, as good as Ingram IMO. He played 5 games with Lamar, got a solid 26 snaps a game, averaged 1.2 catches on 1.4 targets.
Well if they average 2.3 catches and Ravens RB's catch 40 passes that would be about an 8% improvement, if it goes up to 50 they jumped up over 25%. That's not status quo.
If RBs on Baltimore don’t catch 50 passes this year, I think I’d eat my shorts.
No brainer. Hate the landing spot for Coleman. Fournette is a potential league winner this year with how much hate he’s built up.
If Ingram catches 40 passes on his own I'll eat my worn underwear, tweet it out and post a link on here for all to see.
Thanks and we'll see but I do admit when I woke up this morning I thought about totality of the moves I've made in this league since the offseason(this was third major trade) and wondered if I should have kept the "if it's not broke" mantra. This team scored more points then any FFPC dynasty team I saw last year and was with Bell sidelined so not the kind of team that maybe should have been screwed with but I'm also getting a bit bored with it and wanted a new challenge and that challenge for me now is trying to see how many years I can extend my run in this league.
Hunt... you have no idea where he ends up next year, and the rookie rb class is nice. Brown is in a new offense and getting older, still has 2-3 years at the top if hes used right. 1.10 isnt attractive to me. 2020 1st and 2nd... nice but this team is probably solid if they earned 1.10 without Hunt, so with Barkely it's likely to be low again, maybe even 1.12
This was my thoughts as well. Good return for Ingram. The team paying for Ingram is a clear win now team with some aging stars on his team such as Brady, Brees, AB, Baldwin, Edelman, Tate, and now Ingram.
I’ll post in the other thread, but what do you think DJ’s value is? It’s tough to gauge right now.
Yeah, this looks like a great way to destroy your team.
I agree he should have waited. But if he’s putting up 2018 numbers, there’s no way I give up a mid 2020 first for him. He’ll be 28 this year. I’d rather take my chances on one of the young studs at that point.
His numbers in 2018 were still good though and a contender will pay so more of a late first.
If he's in the clear for sure but I don't think it's a bad out if you are worried and not sure how one could not be at least a little worried right now. Risky but depending on how things work out with Hill this could look like free Cooper when this whole thing settles and worst thing is you got a player in Cooper who as a Cowboy was within 3 points of Hill's fantasy production.
Yeah, I just now saw the Hill news. Was under a rock in Vegas all day yesterday. So agreed there’s other factors that I was considering.
Ew. I would be running around pantless if I were the new Hill owner.bostonfred said:
