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Hillis is a UFA after Sunday's game. After the game, the level of Cleveland's aggressiveness in contract negotiations has no correlation to Hillis' talent. His agent may just tell the Browns to franchise him or not even bother to send another offer. Sometimes it is better to clear the bad karma and start over on a new team. It is safe to assume that the team that offers him the largest contract will respect his talent more than Pat Shurmer.
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/teams/teampage-den-4.phphillis saw 3 carries in week 1 and then didnt touch the ball until week 10. he needed injuries to pittman, selvin young, torain, and andre hall before he got on the field.
It has a lot more to do with the other players in the locker room than the (inept) coach. It seems like he's mended fences in the locker room over the last month. But is this a wink-wink-nudge-nudge deal with the Browns knowing he's on his way out regardless? or did he have an attitude change? He's just not special enough to take the risk on if it's still an attitude issue. Maybe a team like the Jets or Pats thugh...
He never had an attitude problem, I think that is what you are missing. There was no locker room issue. There was just one pissed off coach trying to send a message to the white RB.
BJGE was very productive with 15 touches per game in 2010 (RB15). Pretty decent in 2011 with less than 12 per game (RB24). Keep in mind, he had less than 1 rec per game in those years. Hillis has some pretty good hands. So long as he's the clear cut goal line back, he'll have significant value. I'd definitely take a shot on Hillis (possibly as early as the 2nd round depending on expected role) if he went to the Pats, but it would be a little unexpected with their moderate investment in Ridley and Vereen who should be ready to go next year after very light use this year. Either way, you have to think they will have a place in the offense in 2012. Didn't see enough of Vereen to judge, but Ridley looks to be at least deserving of a role in a RBBC in the NFL.
Peyton Hillis was such a crackhead that the Browns want him back. From CBSsports.com:Peyton Hillis, RB CLE
Free agency has not started yet.
They wouldn't be interested in him irrespective of their needs at RB, he is not the "team player" that they look for. His behavior in Cleveland last season probably took him permanently out of consideration for ever joining the Patriots IMO.
Please explain that. What, exactly, did Peyton Hillis do?
Like to see Hillis sign a one year prove it deal in Detroit. Would be a great fit. Would give the Lions the power back they need and he is very good catching passes.
Didn't play when he had a strep throat, which seemed a ploy to renegotiate his contract. Went off to get married instead of rehabbing an injury. And also, despite being ruled inactive for a second straight week with a hamstring injury, threw passes from midfield to the crossbar alongside third-string quarterback Thad Lewis. Most of that detailed in the following link: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2011/11/cleveland_browns_peyton_hillis_9.html
So he had strep throat, then got married with bad hamstrings? What a terrible human being. The article you reference has an "anonymous source" and says the Browns are "prepared to let Hillis go". As of right now, the Browns are trying to re-sign Hillis. Explain that. Who is the "anonymous source" in your article?Sometimes organizations are less ethical than individuals. I am not saying Hillis played his cards right, but the reaction from the Browns, especially Shermur, when Hillis lost 10 pounds and had strep was the defining moment for the rest of the season. Shermur thought he was going to make Hardesty a superstar to put Hillis in "his place" and that backfired when it became clear that Hardesty has hands of stone. Now the Browns are in a pickle because they need an offense and want to use the #4 overall pick on a QB. Right now Hillis is going to force the Browns to pay him top dollar or he is going to walk. If he walks and another teams moves up to pick #2 or #3 to get RGIII, the Browns will win less than 6 games next year.
Didn't the Patriots trade for #85?'squistion said:
I don't recall his diva like antics causing problems with his teammates like the reports regarding Hillis. The Pats also tolerated Moss for awhile provided that he could behave himself (which didn't last and perhaps another reason not to acquire another possible team cancer). I think Hillis is too much of a problem child to be taken by NE and that is my opinion - if you disagree fine. Actually the rumors of a trade for McFadden make much more sense to me than Hillis becoming a Patriot.Edited to add - and Hillis did not get along with McDaniels and was let go in Denver, not because he wasn't playing well (Cecil Lammey reported in training camp that August that Hillis had looked the best of all the RBs, including Moreno) but because he wasn't McDaniels kind of player (according to reports/rumors at that time). If McDaniels has any say in this, it makes it even more unlikely that Hillis will land in NE.
I covered that two posts above. And they didn't have a prior history with McDaniels that was rumored/reported to be unfavorable, did they?
Yeah, you didn't say that. You said they would never sign him cause he isn't the "team player" they look for. That is obviously not consistent with the way BB has operated in the past.......and AFAIK McDaniels won't be making personnel moves. I don't think he goes there cause he's an RB.ETA: my whole point is I don't think NE is adverse to signing players with character concerns.
Riiiight. More like 85's teammates didn't sell him down the river to the media. Maybe the McDaniels history would be a roadblock if they were otherwise interested, but I doubt the Pats care remotely about Hillis' "antics" last year. In addition to 85, Moss, & Corey Dillon - they brought in Fat Albert Haynesworth of all people. They would resurrect Hitler if they thought he could help them win.
And Corey Dillon was rumored to be a peach.
And his discontent had dragged on for several years before he left the Bengals. IIRC his problems were with Bengals management not with other players.Moot point anyway, I don't see McDaniels going along with it. They for sure will ask him, "What you can tell us about Hillis?" and it will not be a favorable response. And McDaniels even did have some input into draft day decisions with his stint for the Rams, particularly with Lance Kenddricks (about that pick, in a thread here at the time, Bloom said that the drafting of Kendricks "has Josh McDaniels fingerprints all over it.") No reason to believe BB will not include him in the decision making loop and that does not bode well for Hillis.
Would rather see Cincy draft Lamar Miller, he would be a better fit for Gruden's offense.
I agree Cedric Benson has done far worse than Hillis. Really he didn't run on the hamstring, maybe the marriage was stupid and selfish, but who knows if he felt pressure from his future wife. Unless I hear stories about him acting arrogant arount teammates or fans or with friends, I'm not buying into he is a diva.
No need for Hillis, "promote" the fullback to Jacobs specialist role. Hysnoski hits the holes hard and has as much speed as Jacobs does these days. He also is playing for the rookie minimum contract.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633501/cleveland-browns-use-tag-rb-peyton-hillis-source-saysIs this the WORST of the Madden Curse that there could ever be? Has a bust of a season, fires 4 different agents, and now has aspirations now to join the CIA
