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I'll correct you. There's a very good chance he isn't used up. While camp reports should be taken with a grain of salt, he was looking much better than last season and many were looking for him to be a sleeper pick this season before the TMZ blowup. No one looked good running for the Ravens last season (or this season) and a new team and a chip on his shoulder could rejuvenate him (if he ever gets the chance).
Maybe just before he popped her, his wife said "Man, your 3.1 YPC last year really sucked."
Yep. Once Vick got released from prison, it didn't take long for a couple teams to look him up
Why would they? He looks more used up than Al Swearengen's employees at the GEM Theater (see Deadwood series). I doubt the reward outweighs the backlash they would receive taking a chance on a used up RB with this hanging over his head. It makes no sense from an NFL business perspective. He's done. There are plenty of RBs out there that are currently better than Ray Rice.
Nope. Cut then punished. Otherwise, this "indefinite suspension" would never fly...
Under that logic, all free agents would be exempt from penalty for drug offenses or violation of personal conduct policy. Same would.apply to unsigned draft picks. I don't think the NFL is looking to open that two-way street.
You're wrong on this. If he wasn't subject to the CBA how could he appeal the suspension?
Part of the power of the NFL is that the league/owners/front office/players union could all just agree that professional football is not the forum in which to address personal or societal issues of the negative nature. If they did that and didn't decide to try and be a moral standard and instead concentrated on playing football....noone would care. The problem that they've run into is that they've tried to (in a very ticky tack way) set moral standards to their workplace. To that, a team could/would pick up Ray Rice and although they'd take a PR hit....their bottom line wouldn't be hurt one bit.
Again, why would they pick up a player with his baggage when he isn't very good anymore and there are plenty of RBs out there better than he is right now.
It's a really tough spot. From a moral standpoint, I think he should get more than two games. But how are you gonna give someone two games, then change your policy to six, then suspend indefinitely. The NFL's suspension policy is so broken.
In court of law. Let's not be so confused to think this is the same thing.wdcrob said:
I think you're in the minority in regards to his abilities...particularly if we're only looking at last year. BAL's O line was decimated. Pitta and Dickson were hurt. Boldin had left. The team as a whole could have been suffering from a Super Bowl let down. By most accounts....he looked good in the pre-season. While I don't think he's quite the Ray Rice of his peak years....I think if a team got him on a league minimum or cheap salary.....he'd be a great value and make a significant contribution.
He was incorrect. The clause he used to support his position says nothing about the commish changing his mind and making a penalty more excessive.
I don't think you misread it. I just think you're misconstruing a release by the club as punishment.
The whole point you are missing is that football is not about winning games in a vacuum. It's a Billion dollar business. A team would risk losing some fans and advertisers permanently and Rice isn't good enough for any team to go through that.
What would happen to the Ravens salary cap wise if Rice was signed to another team?
This...and maybe most importantly Rice had a hip flexor injury early last year that hampered him for the entire year. I think its going to take some time for this to simmer down before Rice gets signed, but the last reason for it to take awhile is because he's washed up like JohnnyU keeps saying.
Oh, nope. 2 game suspension followed by an indefinite suspension for the same infraction. Ravens have nothing to do with it.
What is the verbiage of the CBA that's violated here? I saw something posted about the league and club not levying punishment for the same offense.
Tell that to Josh Gordon.
I'm not missing any point. It's a billion dollar business that has seen a slew of wrong doings from players who have been allowed to come back and play after they've served their suspensions. It's kept on going and it will keep on going and the people will still watch.
There is a cap on unemployment. And I am pretty sure fired because you violated the code of conduct is "with cause".
Yeah, good luck to him with that. That said, it'll give him something to do in his free time.dschuler said:
I just can't remember anyone else doing this when they got cut for something like this.
Me neither. The only one who benefits here are the attorneys. If he files against the NFL, he has at least a remote chance of a positive outcome. But, the Ravens? For releasing him? Comical if he actually goes through with it.
bad choice of words...
