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RB Javonte Williams, DEN (1 Viewer)
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greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Not enough information here. Format? Who else is on the board?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
there's something going on in denver - either they're being very, VERY coy about JW's health , i.e., they know he's ready to absolutely ROLL, or they're taking the slow approach knowing he's on 'schedule' to be the bell cow by week 4-ish.
here's the thing..there are just way too many ppl singing praises of journeyman john averageman S. Perine..I mean, there's a lot of cray-cray going on out there. the guy has not had more than 175 carries in any season in his nfl career. he did in college, but that was 'back in the day'.
this guy might muster 95 carries this season , if that. I'm inclined to believe that JW is ready to roll. They just lost Jeudy. JW was already slated to grab a lot of passes, this just adds to it. a washed up russ basically guarantees that JW gets about 70 recs, if not more, this season. the little dink-n-dunkeroo passes that keep a QB upright and healthy.
and then there's the chance that denver sucks really badly. at what point do they switch to rypien? just saying, he might breathe some life into the offense.
it's truly a buy with the blinders on type deal.yeah you're going into this site unseen. I dont think denver wins a lot, but payton's offenses have always had productive RBs.
here's the thing..there are just way too many ppl singing praises of journeyman john averageman S. Perine..I mean, there's a lot of cray-cray going on out there. the guy has not had more than 175 carries in any season in his nfl career. he did in college, but that was 'back in the day'.
this guy might muster 95 carries this season , if that. I'm inclined to believe that JW is ready to roll. They just lost Jeudy. JW was already slated to grab a lot of passes, this just adds to it. a washed up russ basically guarantees that JW gets about 70 recs, if not more, this season. the little dink-n-dunkeroo passes that keep a QB upright and healthy.
and then there's the chance that denver sucks really badly. at what point do they switch to rypien? just saying, he might breathe some life into the offense.
it's truly a buy with the blinders on type deal.yeah you're going into this site unseen. I dont think denver wins a lot, but payton's offenses have always had productive RBs.
3nOut
Footballguy
It was a general question. I didn't want this to be in the wrong thread but .5 ppr. QB, 2 RB, 2, WR, TE, Flex starters. So imagine 12 of the top RBs are already taken for the most part.
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Coach Sean Payton said Wednesday that Williams will have a "big role" this Sunday against the Raiders, Zac Stevens of TheDNVR.com reports.
"Look, he’s going to play a big role. I haven’t put together a [snap] number for him. … He’s moving well. He’s strong and healthy."
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"Look, he’s going to play a big role. I haven’t put together a [snap] number for him. … He’s moving well. He’s strong and healthy."
Broncos' Javonte Williams: Scheduled for big role Week 1
Broncos' Javonte Williams: Scheduled for big role Week 1
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Largent
Footballguy
Coach Sean Payton said Wednesday that Williams will have a "big role" this Sunday against the Raiders, Zac Stevens of TheDNVR.com reports.
"Look, he’s going to play a big role. I haven’t put together a [snap] number for him. … He’s moving well. He’s strong and healthy."
Broncos' Javonte Williams: Scheduled for big role Week 1
Broncos' Javonte Williams: Scheduled for big role Week 1
LETS RIDE!!!
Birdie048
Footballguy
And the media posting all the “Coach Speak” garbage to throw off Vegas betting lines and cause opposing DC frustration… and using the “USA TODAY” for scoring.
I miss those days …
Stoneworker
Footballguy
That quote is from last Wednesday. Nothing new to see here.
Pots
Footballguy
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Every backfield is a split of some sort, I don't think this will be any "worse" than normal. Javonte's first game back and they said he'd be on a pitch-count. Perine is a decent back-up but that's what he is.
I'm slightly more concerned about the lack of offense against a weak defense, although if they keep throwing to the RBs that much it'll give him a decent floor at least.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Russ WIlson threw for a buck77 against a team that went 6-11 last year, not doing his RB any favors by not keeping defenses honest.
His top receiver was Perine if I read the box stats right, can't say I watched much of this game.
Sounds like it was a pretty boring affair
Javonte 13 carries
Perine 8 carries
Williams will have better games as he recovers from the ligament tears last year.
Get this guy down to sea level so at least he has a chance to make a difference in a game, because the Mile High City isn't good for him. Is he fools gold or is DEN just clueless on how to call a game? Last year, I thought it was latter....but with Peyton in there, I'm beginning to wonder if this guy isn't as cracked up as some of us think.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I can’t speak to the game plan but JWilliams had most of the carries. 44 yards isn’t bad either.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I mean maybe. Sometimes they don’t produce…..and eventually they lose their jobs.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
I think I’m firing him up. Good matchup plus your logic is also very sound.
NajehHejan
Footballguy
With Nico Collins taking a major back seat last week to Tank Dell, and Nico having a tough matchup, and Javonte having a cake matchup, I’m rolling with Javonte at flex. If he doesn’t produce here, I’ll drop him, as he’ll never crack my lineup again.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
He will only get healthier playing in NFL games seems like a strange argument to me.
Timmay
Footballguy
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Each week he shakes the rust off more and gets healthier/stronger. Makes sense to me. Buy low
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Yes I understand the intent of the statement.
But getting healthier is not the only thing that could happen is my point.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
i hear you - he definitely can get injured but each week lowers the risk to any other player as he gets further from the injury. IMO
NajehHejan
Footballguy
12 team league. Aside from Javonte, I drafted well, and have worked the waiver wire pretty good as well. In my full point PPR, he has gotten me 9.7, 7.8, and 8.5 points for the first three weeks. If this week he again fails to score double digit points, against the worst team in the league, why am I holding onto him other than name recognition?
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
He’s averaging 14 touches a week. That’s nothing to sneeze at…
Jacob's Ladder
Footballguy
Buy low! I haven't heard about any lingering issues with his knee and he looks pretty good running and catching the ball. SP seems to script the first few series and Javonte does his thing, then Payton goes away from him. It's happened three weeks in a row. Who knows why, maybe because the games become unwinnable and he doesn't want to waste him? Maybe because they're being careful with his knee, but if that was the case why not just put him on IR the first 4 and run with Samaje? Maybe SP is outsmarting himself or trying to see what else he has on O knowing it's a lost season and he has plenty of rope? I don't know, but what I do know is the offense looks better with him on the field than it currently does with Perine or JM. I have a sneaky feeling Williams is going to have a huge 2nd half of the season.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
Let’s hope!
heh sorry man
Early report not serious but I think I have to drop him this week. Just not producing and in bye week hell. Plus would expect that rookie to get more looks going forward.
zamboni
Footballguy
Even if the injury isn't serious at all, I'm very leery of Javonte's prospects this year (and maybe beyond). Payton didn't draft him and thus has no loyalty to him, while McLaughlin was brought in by Payton. I don't think he cares about draft capital. Now if Javonte significantly outperforms McLaughlin, that's one thing, but we're not seeing that. It might be another year post-ACL that Javonte gets back to the player he was (if that even happens).
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Year 3- feels like a wasted dynasty pick given the unfortunate luck. I'm not sure he will ever be a thing but could be a buy low in dynasty
SwampDawg
Footballguy
Yea that didn't work out.
Yep, very unfortunate. Dream matchup on paper although the Denver defense let it get out of hand early forcing Denver to throw to catchup for the comeback. Not sure how much work other than receptions JW would have seen had he not gotten injured.
Also likely means McLoughlin will get more than just 1 or 2 touches going forward.
Also likely means McLoughlin will get more than just 1 or 2 touches going forward.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
agreed - the injury doesnt seem to be serious but it opened the door for one of the regime's players to step in - unfortunate.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
At minimum it appears McLaughlin has leapfrogged Perine in the pecking order. Not sure 7 carries is enough sample size to declare he’s also passed Williams, but so far McLaughlin has been easily the most efficient and productive of the three thus far. As I said in another thread, Payton loves him some 3-headed RBBC and that may be what we’re headed for. I’d expect all three to be involved from week to week and it could lead to some headaches in fantasy. I would not dump Williams but I would bench him until he shows more, if possible.
This guys is seriously the biggest **** tease in fantasy football:
2021- looked like a stud but MG3 blocked him all season. In the one game MG3 missed, Williams has monster game. Goes back to RBBC right after.
2022- MG3 still there but Williams clearly started taking over and then tears ACL. MG3 released AFTER and ends up on another team's practice squad.
2023- Slowly working his way back from injury. Has a great matchup in which everyone is screaming buy low right before. Injures hip. His backup's backup goes off.
2021- looked like a stud but MG3 blocked him all season. In the one game MG3 missed, Williams has monster game. Goes back to RBBC right after.
2022- MG3 still there but Williams clearly started taking over and then tears ACL. MG3 released AFTER and ends up on another team's practice squad.
2023- Slowly working his way back from injury. Has a great matchup in which everyone is screaming buy low right before. Injures hip. His backup's backup goes off.
Yep, plus it's a pretty small pie they're going to be divvying up, despite what the "resident expert" thinks.
Glad I avoided him in redraft, in dynasty it's going about as it should have been expected. It was never realistic to expect him to hit the ground running after that injury.
taylormeetstheismann
Footballguy
I don’t know the true stats but it seems to me this happens all the time. A minor player has a huge game that no one expects only to effectively disappear in the following weeks or for the rest of the season. In example, David Patten had a career game vs the Colts in 2001 but he was never very productive statistically otherwise. I think if we were to examine (and this would take a lot of work which I’m not doing) a hundred plus instances of big games like Patten’s, we’d discover that these are very frequently statistical anomalies that aren’t worth making rosters moves over. At this point, I don’t chase this stuff unless there is a compelling reason to do so. Puka Nacua is an example where there were other factors to consider. Even then, it only looked like a good bet to acquire and start him. There were no guarantees he’d play so well over four games.
