Grahamburn
Footballguy
Bowles said it was for personal reasons, but made it clear his absence was not excused. I imagine he has been informed that he'll be inactive on gamedays and wasn't thrilled with the news.
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RB Sean Tucker, TB (1 Viewer)
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Boston
Footballguy
A severe case of Benchitis...
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Vaughn. At least Tucker has an excuse lol
The Frankman
Footballguy
EBF
Footballguy
Wayyyyy too early to gloat, but 39 yards on 17 carries (2.3 YPC) by Rachaad White is not doing much to dispel the JAG talk.
To be fair, it's only one game, and the Vikes are probably an above average opponent. He'll have better weeks.
Only concrete comment I have is that my urgency to roster Tucker in redraft would be rising after today. He has cleared some major hurdles in the last few months. Getting the OK to play football was a big one. Making the 53 as a UDFA was another big one. Being named RB2 entering the season and then, in fact, getting the 2nd most touches in the very first game is another arrow up. All positive signs, albeit not enough to justify crazy excitement yet.
DET used a top 15 pick on Gibbs and gave him 9 touches in week one. TB signed Tucker as a UDFA and gave him 7 touches in week one. Not the worst starting point for a rookie back.
To be fair, it's only one game, and the Vikes are probably an above average opponent. He'll have better weeks.
Only concrete comment I have is that my urgency to roster Tucker in redraft would be rising after today. He has cleared some major hurdles in the last few months. Getting the OK to play football was a big one. Making the 53 as a UDFA was another big one. Being named RB2 entering the season and then, in fact, getting the 2nd most touches in the very first game is another arrow up. All positive signs, albeit not enough to justify crazy excitement yet.
DET used a top 15 pick on Gibbs and gave him 9 touches in week one. TB signed Tucker as a UDFA and gave him 7 touches in week one. Not the worst starting point for a rookie back.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I thought they both looked indecisive and ran way too high/soft.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Didn’t get much out of his opportunities today, and White had several big/clutch plays designed for him at crucial moments that were successful.
Rookiefever
Footballguy
From what little I seen white looked like an actual nfl rb today. I didn’t see Tucker at all but games like this lead to the couch with Akers… yeesh
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Hard to keep rostered right now. Looks like Vaughan is ahead of him, or was before the bye.
Weebs210
Footballguy
This week will be telling on who the number two is. They claim Vaughn got run because he was used to the turf they played on(I know I known). But yes at this point he's just another potential cuff.
I wish I would have taxi'd him (locks at beginning of the year). Gonna be hard to hold through bye weeks if he's a healthy scratch/moving down the ladder.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Well there's our answer ...
He did do very poorly with his 15 carries, but that's so early for them (or me) to just give up on him.
EBF
Footballguy
Arrow down since the season started, obviously. He didn't produce and now he's not even getting snaps. That's not good.
A bullish case would be...
1. Merely making the roster as a UDFA is already beating the odds. Most UDFAs are camp cuts. The Bucs must have seen something in Tucker to give him a roster spot. They also gave him some opportunities early in the year, which indicates some optimism
2. There's no way he's as bad as he's been so far. He's averaging 1.5 YPC. Unless he's the worst RB in the history of the NFL, there's no way that's even close to his "true" performance level. The sample size is too small and the quality of opportunities is too low to have huge predictive value.
On that note...
3. Every back on this team has struggled so far. Tampa ranks dead last in the NFL with a team average of 3.0 YPC. This appears to be a horrendously bad running attack, even if you take Tucker out of the equation. Quite literally the worst running game in the league.
If you weren't a fan, there's no reason to look at his season and be optimistic. On the other hand, I don't think we can rule out eventual success yet. Ideally we'll get a chance to see what he can do with more and/or better opportunities.
Intuitively, you'd think defenses would wear down over the course of the season due to the accumulation of injuries and fatigue, which would maybe make the sledding easier for fresh legs in the back half of the schedule.
A bullish case would be...
1. Merely making the roster as a UDFA is already beating the odds. Most UDFAs are camp cuts. The Bucs must have seen something in Tucker to give him a roster spot. They also gave him some opportunities early in the year, which indicates some optimism
2. There's no way he's as bad as he's been so far. He's averaging 1.5 YPC. Unless he's the worst RB in the history of the NFL, there's no way that's even close to his "true" performance level. The sample size is too small and the quality of opportunities is too low to have huge predictive value.
On that note...
3. Every back on this team has struggled so far. Tampa ranks dead last in the NFL with a team average of 3.0 YPC. This appears to be a horrendously bad running attack, even if you take Tucker out of the equation. Quite literally the worst running game in the league.
If you weren't a fan, there's no reason to look at his season and be optimistic. On the other hand, I don't think we can rule out eventual success yet. Ideally we'll get a chance to see what he can do with more and/or better opportunities.
Intuitively, you'd think defenses would wear down over the course of the season due to the accumulation of injuries and fatigue, which would maybe make the sledding easier for fresh legs in the back half of the schedule.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Already dropped in a few dynasty leagues
eighsse2
Footballguy
If there were someone I wanted ... Tucker or Deuce Vaughn would be the one to go.
bj diggy
Footballguy
Both suck
zamboni
Footballguy
Probably Tucker with Edmonds returning.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Honestly I don't know why he isn't active over Vaughn.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Tucker was my favorite lotto ticket RB play going into this season. But we’re halfway through the season, my dynasty league doesn’t have that many bench spots and has no taxi squad, I was missing out on a bunch of more valuable players by favoring him, and most importantly he’s trending backwards (from RB2 to begin the year to demoted behind Vaughn to being a healthy inactive).
I liked Tucker most not just for his college profile but I also thought he had a chance to win the job over White in due time. Maybe he still does but it doesn’t look like it’s happening this year. The Bucs OL isn’t doing any of the RBs any favors but at least White still continues to produce as a pass catcher. I’m disappointed but I’m also doing myself a disservice if I hold my lotto for too long.
Will revisit if/when Tucker trends in a better direction. But right now I’m trying to contend for a playoff spot in my league, my team is on a losing streak, and injuries are starting to chip away at my bench depth so I had to cut my losses. As Weebs said if you have a taxi squad you may want to hold him anyway. Your mileage may vary.
I liked Tucker most not just for his college profile but I also thought he had a chance to win the job over White in due time. Maybe he still does but it doesn’t look like it’s happening this year. The Bucs OL isn’t doing any of the RBs any favors but at least White still continues to produce as a pass catcher. I’m disappointed but I’m also doing myself a disservice if I hold my lotto for too long.
Will revisit if/when Tucker trends in a better direction. But right now I’m trying to contend for a playoff spot in my league, my team is on a losing streak, and injuries are starting to chip away at my bench depth so I had to cut my losses. As Weebs said if you have a taxi squad you may want to hold him anyway. Your mileage may vary.
eighsse2
Footballguy
At least White finally had a truly good game to warrant his lead role.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Exactly, sometimes we need to be honest with ourselves when new information is presented to us. 109 total yards on 16 touches is nothing to sniff at.
markrc99
Footballguy
To me, in the offseason they had to get a guy or draft one. They were quoted repeatedly as saying they really liked White. Where they drafted Tucker I read as a depth move. Did I have White in my lineup last night? No unfortunately, he's been hit or miss. What I really liked was the type of offseason he reportedly had. The argument for Tucker as I remember it was that White sucked. White's height to weight ratio doesn't lend itself, he's not going to bowl over defenders or lead the league in YAC. But possesses the requisite size to stick between his QB & a blitzer. And that length & soft hands out of the backfield, oh yeah. Could be wrong but until he starts sustaining injuries, he's a guy in this league.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Can't deny that. Would love to find a way to at least keep him into season.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn’t there lots of NFL backs buried on the depth chart that don’t play often?
Rookiefever
Footballguy
Tucker might be joining the list of dart throws that dropped before they hit the board for me. Ross, boutte, prince and Tucker… 5th or 6th rd picks mostly so no big loss but dang it would be nice to see some points on the board from one of them. Yeesh
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I suppose in dynasty leagues with large rosters, or even better, taxi squads, you might as well hold him. Who are you going to replace him with, Craig Reynolds? As for leagues where you have smaller rosters and are hit by injury, I wouldn't blame you for dropping him. I did in one league and kept him in another. You can't have everyone you want.
Rookiefever
Footballguy
Well… I’ve got reynolds rostered too(gibbs owner). Lol. There’s nothing on the wire in my dynasties. Bye week fillers at idp is really about all. I’m holding for sure though. Its just disappointing that there’s so many of these type of guys on my roster atm. It’s weird how some of these guys can be so dang good in college and do nothing in the nfl. A la lache seastrunk
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I read that and I think I know where you are coming from, but at te end of the day either Tucker means something or he doesn’t. Right now he doesn’t mean anything.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You just had to bring him up
zamboni
Footballguy
There’s a reasonable chance of that, but if so, I highly doubt that an UDFA in Tucker would be a consideration for a new coaching staff unless he really splashed the rest of the way.
Starting to look like Tucker is just another preseason hype guy that wasn’t.
Weebs210
Footballguy
His only chance at this point is an injury to White. No way a coaching staff would roll out Edmonds and Vaughn as their RB rotation. Things can change fast both directions though.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The best scenario is to be cut and get a fresh start somewhere else with a team that thinks better of him. He may be out of the league this time next year.
FantasyMC
Footballguy
Not sure that would be the case since he went undrafted by all NFL teams. I understand the medical issue with his heart maybe scared off some teams but even if they liked him, why not take a shot in the late rounds.
