RB to Exploit -Avoid Week 4 (1 Viewer)

[ggggh7]

great work + i like the "new" form mucho better. Interesting to get ur "tuesday" outlook on players.

As far a comments. normal. While i never post , just lazy. Having your take on rb. or just games opens up

discussion. and opens up you as a "target" haha.. So to speak, I dont think anyone in this thread

typed anything but valid counter points. of course, there will be some conflicting views / and/ misunderstandings. it is a forum

Yes, i normally disagree with you. This usually depends on how much time i have to do my own "take"

on this weeks rb, or games. Which this year has been ..not much.

But again its all fun. I think maybe you do write ups for a site, or this site IDK..

anyway just for fun i threw together my "ranks"... lets see how a quick spreadsheet analysis can do.

interesting if you do this. of course these are not .strict. general.

One note on projection, or anything involving. Anyone telling their projection..

Why does everyone always say...If they dont get hurt. haha... of course ur projection is invalid if

a player gets hurt...gezzz...\

PLAYER NFL 4 rr PLAYS

1 rb Darre McFadden OAK NE 10.7 73

2 wr Wes Welker NE @OAK 8.6 44

3 rb LeSean McCoy PHI SF 5.7 67

4 rb Adria Peterson MIN @KC 9.3 68

5 rb Ray Rice BAL NYJ 6.2 61

6 rb Fred Jackson BUF @CIN 5.4 56

7 rb Matt Forte CHI CAR 9.1 63

8 wr Steve Smith CAR @CHI 8.8 31

9 rb Ryan Mathews SD MIA 10.7 63

10 wr Mike Wallace PIT @HOU 7.2 27

11 rb Tim Hightower WAS @STL 10.2 70

12 wr Calvin Johnson DET @DAL 4.1 28

13 rb Maurice Jones-Drew JAC NO 8.3 73

wr Vincent Jackson SD MIA 10.7 27

rb Mike Tolbert SD MIA 10.7 48

rb Beanie Wells ARI NYG 7.9 38

wr Miles Austin DAL DET 5.5 25

rb Daniel Thomas MIA @SD 7.4 45

14 wr Denarius Moore OAK NE 10.7 17

15 rb Ahmad Bradshaw NYG @ARI 8.2 55

16 wr Greg Jennings GB DEN 8.8 26

17 rb Peyton Hillis CLE TEN 4.8 56

18 wr Andre Johnson HOU PIT 6.0 33

19 wr Larry Fitzgerald ARI NYG 7.9 24

20 rb James Starks GB DEN 8.8 41

25 wr Stevie Johnson BUF @CIN 5.4 30

26 rb Cedric Benson CIN BUF 9.1 63

27 rb Michael Turner ATL @SEA 7.5 47

28 wr A.J. Green CIN BUF 9.1 23

29 wr Jordy Nelson GB DEN 8.8 15

30 rb Chris Johnson TEN @CLE 5.7 65

31 rb Arian Foster HOU PIT 6.0 12

32 wr Eric Decker DEN @GB 8.2 27

33 wr Santana Moss WAS @STL 10.2 25

34 rb Joseph Addai IND @TB 9.4 49

35 rb LeGarrette Blount TB IND 8.7 45

36 rb Jahvid Best DET @DAL 4.1 69

37 wr Brandon Marshall MIA @SD 7.4 31

38 wr Devery Henderson NO @JAC 6.5 16

39 wr Sidney Rice SEA ATL 8.4 10

40 wr Hakeem Nicks NYG @ARI 8.2 24

41 rb Willis McGahee DEN @GB 8.2 68

42 wr Jeremy Maclin PHI SF 5.7 26

43 rb Michael Bush OAK NE 10.7 24

44 rb Darren Sproles NO @JAC 6.5 36

45 wr Jabar Gaffney WAS @STL 10.2 21

46 wr Reggie Wayne IND @TB 9.4 32

47 rb LaDainia Tomlinson NYJ @BAL 5.9 33

48 wr Danario Alexander STL WAS 7.0 15

49 rb Brandon Jacobs NYG @ARI 8.2 34

50 wr Roddy White ATL @SEA 7.5 34

51 wr Deion Branch NE @OAK 8.6 22

52 wr Percy Harvin MIN @KC 9.3 25

53 wr Robert Meachem NO @JAC 6.5 21

54 rb BenJarvu Green-Ellis NE @OAK 8.6 36

55 rb Jonathan Stewart CAR @CHI 8.8 38

56 rb Felix Jones DAL DET 5.5 49

57 wr Nate Washington TEN @CLE 5.7 27

58 wr Dwayne Bowe KC MIN 7.6 23

59 rb Steven Jackson STL WAS 7.0 7

60 wr Torrey Smith BAL NYJ 6.2 10

61 wr Patrick Crayton SD MIA 10.7 7

62 wr Michael Jenkins MIN @KC 9.3 17

64 rb Ben Tate HOU PIT 6.0 74

rb Stevan Ridley NE @OAK 8.6 9

60 wr Victor Cruz NYG @ARI 8.2 9

67

69 rb Reggie Bush MIA @SD 7.4 39

70 wr Brandon Lloyd DEN @GB 8.2 17

71 wr DeSean Jackson PHI SF 5.7 23

72 rb Kendall Hunter SF @PHI 5.9 13

73 wr Jerome Simpson CIN BUF 9.1 22

74 wr Dez Bryant DAL DET 5.5 12

75 wr David Nelson BUF @CIN 5.4 27

76 wr Brian Hartline MIA @SD 7.4 18

wr Lance Moore NO @JAC 6.5 13

rb Frank Gore SF @PHI 5.9 68

wr Andre Caldwell CIN BUF 9.1 17

70 wr Mike Thomas JAC NO 8.3 30

71 rb Rashard Mendenhall PIT @HOU 7.2 56

72 wr Brandon LaFell CAR @CHI 8.8 10

wr Anquan Boldin BAL NYJ 6.2 28

wr Julio Jones ATL @SEA 7.5 22

rb Shonn Greene NYJ @BAL 5.9 51

wr Brandon Gibson STL WAS 7.0 20

wr Plaxico Burress NYJ @BAL 5.9 17

wr Santonio Holmes NYJ @BAL 5.9 16

wr Nate Burleson DET @DAL 4.1 17

wr Jacoby Ford OAK NE 10.7 5

wr Davone Bess MIA @SD 7.4 22

rb Dexter McCluster KC MIN 7.6 37

wr Mario Manningham NYG @ARI 8.2 14

wr Randall Cobb GB DEN 8.8 5

wr Arrelious Benn TB IND 8.7 13

wr Titus Young DET @DAL 4.1 16

wr Damian Williams TEN @CLE 5.7 5

rb Marshawn Lynch SEA ATL 8.4 45

rb Mark Ingram NO @JAC 6.5 38

rb DeAngelo Williams CAR @CHI 8.8 36

rb Pierre Thomas NO @JAC 6.5 31

63 wr Early Doucet ARI NYG 7.9 15

rb Danny Woodhead NE @OAK 8.6 32

rb DeMarco Murray DAL DET 5.5 12

wr Chad Ochocinco NE @OAK 8.6 9

wr Mike Sims-Walker STL WAS 7.0 21

format sucks here, why not make it easy to post excel sheets

and thanks for the articles MOP. great work and discussion .. errors in english/type do to beer

and yes, The NO wrs are not ranked correctly if Colston plays ..haha..

btw. i agree on Henne passing a lot, my qbs ranks

PLAYER NFL 4

1 qb Tom Brady NE @OAK

2 qb Cam Newton CAR @CHI

3 qb Drew Brees NO @JAC

4 qb Aaron Rodgers GB DEN

5 qb Philip Rivers SD MIA

6 qb Chad Henne MIA @SD

7 qb Matthew Stafford DET @DAL

8 qb Ryan Fitzpatrick BUF @CIN

9 qb Mark Sanchez NYJ @BAL

10 qb Rex Grossman WAS @STL

11 qb Jay Cutler CHI CAR

12 qb Eli Manning NYG @ARI

13 qb Joe Flacco BAL NYJ

14 qb Jason Campbell OAK NE

15 qb Matt Ryan ATL @SEA

16 qb Kevin Kolb ARI NYG

17 qb Matt Hasselbeck TEN @CLE

18 qb Ben Roethlisberger PIT @HOU

19 qb Matt Schaub HOU PIT

 

[phrozen]

I wonder what Barry Sanders numbers would look like if you took away his big runs?

That is a horrible way to analyze running games, long runs are part of what they do.

A. Peterson had 5 carries in the second half, L. Frazier shut him down, Detroit did not.

First of all, thanks for posting but I would like you to share since I do an awful lot of writing, just how many RBs did I use that for as a base? Also most of those backs which really is only Mendy and Felix off the top of my head, I clearly pointed to other things that they are having challenges with. I don't just post up "take away that run"...that was in addition to questions about the OL, surrounding injuries to other key players, I think it's a little unfair for you to ride in and criticize and offer no analysis yourself. It's a free board, you're welcome to your opinion but on the surface it feels like I didn't have a positive spin on a player that you either own or have high opinions of. And I don't know who made it Godly Law to jump on people who subtract long runs but I find it helpful and useful; not to tear a player down but to understand what the running game is looking like 90% of the time not just the occasional long run.

Example...Chris Johnson this week might bust a long run, rack up 120 yds, and owners will do cartwheels, however that won't solve his OL woes and it doesn't make him any more likely to sustain it over the season.

Again thanks for posting, look forward to your breakdowns of the games.

Serious Business Mode activated

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Serious Business Mode™ activated

you got me

Good luck today Phrozen

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Anyone have any thoughts on the Hunter/Gore situation today? Gore was starting, then he isn't, now apparently it's Hunter with Gore seeing action too.

 

[pack66]

Hey MoP, always love your posts. I have two questions I'm hoping you could answer.

First, SF has the #1 Defense according to FootballOutsiders. Is McCoy still a decent start?

Second, with news of Mathews only practicing on Friday this week due to an ankle injury, do we see him regress some this week and more of a Tolbert? I saw a note on CBS Sports suggesting that Tolbert could see the bulk of the carries this week due to Mathews' lack of practice time.

 

[smackdaddies]

Really Desperate at RB? Play in a big league and injuries make you desperate? TD league?

John Kuhn.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hey MoP, always love your posts. I have two questions I'm hoping you could answer.First, SF has the #1 Defense according to FootballOutsiders. Is McCoy still a decent start?Second, with news of Mathews only practicing on Friday this week due to an ankle injury, do we see him regress some this week and more of a Tolbert? I saw a note on CBS Sports suggesting that Tolbert could see the bulk of the carries this week due to Mathews' lack of practice time.

I don't think McCoy will run wild but SF has shut down TJax and a rookie in Dalton, I wouldn't bench McCoy against anyone. I think they were just resting Mathews, he looked so good last week. I do think Miami will put up a fight today though. Miami is down Vontae Davis, Koa Misi also is OUT and they don't have a lot of depth.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Really Desperate at RB? Play in a big league and injuries make you desperate? TD league?John Kuhn.

GB will be ahead, should pound in a couple from short range, I like his chances for 1.

 

[Brownje6]

MOP - with the news out of Miami, what do you think of Reggie Bush over the likes of Montario Hardesty, Cadillac, Moreno, or Kendall Hunter in a PPR league? Given their flashes of skill, does the chance of Hunter or Hardesty getting more playing time make them "safer" than Bush, or will Bush's increase in touches likely outweigh his seemingly active resistance to doing anything positive?

Read the Cleveland game post, I'm pretty clear of what I think of Hardesty. Hunter might only be a COP back, let's see what Gore's status is. SJax is supped to see a heavy load this weekend, and Moreno is the RB2 on his team at best and facing GB.Bush is starting, should see a lot of touches.

MOP - So how do you feel about Hunter now, given that it seems as though he'll start over Gore, but share touches with Gore? Still put Bush over Hunter, or does Hunter now have a higher ceiling?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP - with the news out of Miami, what do you think of Reggie Bush over the likes of Montario Hardesty, Cadillac, Moreno, or Kendall Hunter in a PPR league? Given their flashes of skill, does the chance of Hunter or Hardesty getting more playing time make them "safer" than Bush, or will Bush's increase in touches likely outweigh his seemingly active resistance to doing anything positive?

Read the Cleveland game post, I'm pretty clear of what I think of Hardesty. Hunter might only be a COP back, let's see what Gore's status is. SJax is supped to see a heavy load this weekend, and Moreno is the RB2 on his team at best and facing GB.Bush is starting, should see a lot of touches.

MOP - So how do you feel about Hunter now, given that it seems as though he'll start over Gore, but share touches with Gore? Still put Bush over Hunter, or does Hunter now have a higher ceiling?

I never like a split backfield. Maybe Gore is just there for moral support?

 

[smackdaddies]

I also think this is the week Chris Johnson puts up some points.

Cleve rush d is pathetic. CJ gets 100 plus yards and a TD.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I wonder when Beanie Wells will make your start list?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I wonder when Beanie Wells will make your start list?

I listed him week 1.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I wonder when Beanie Wells will make your start list?

I listed him week 1.

Don't lie. You said if you ever can start this guy now is the time...you went onto rip him and say he is horrible. Well...he looks pretty damn good so far this year.LEG SWEPT!

 

[oldmoney]

Frank Gore: Philly is ripe for an explosion from Gore.

Really well done, everyone and their lil' brother was saying he was done last week. Nice call...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I wonder when Beanie Wells will make your start list?

I listed him week 1.

Don't lie. You said if you ever can start this guy now is the time...you went onto rip him and say he is horrible. Well...he looks pretty damn good so far this year.LEG SWEPT!

First of all, why would you want to come in here and name call? That's against the board policies. Second, are you really thumping your chest when you didn't post one time in this thread all week? You're seriously going to come in here Sunday Night and try to take credit for something you didn't even post about? Where are your Beanie Wells proclamations?Finally, I did list Wells as a start week 1 so you can stop calling me a liar. And if memory serves he said all week against Seattle he was playing and then was inactive. Most people didn't trust him this week. I think you split your pants trying that leg sweep. And please don't come back in here and post if your just trying to be a jerk, my PM box is open if you have anything else you want to get off your chest. Thanks

 

[display name]

Woodhead = player to avoid starting. Green-Ellis and now Ridley are both in the mix as well as Woodhead. Ridley and Woodhead each had 6 carries against the Bills, with Green-Ellis receiving another 10.I really just can't see how many people would consider starting Woodhead this week. You would have to be extremely desperate. To rank him between RB 10-20 for the week is just completely unfounded.

New England is in Oakland this weekend and the Raiders allowed McGahee/Moreno 7 receptions, then last week LT/Greene combined for 12,the other game was Buffalo and they allowed 180 yds on the ground...I think Woodhead is a nice flex start this week in PPR and IMO he has a chance to crack the top20. You're not playing Woodhead over Fred Jackson, you're finding a guy that will outplay his draft position of the 12th round and usually an afterthought for many owners. Your opinions are welcome. Gad you found your way in here.

Woodhead: 2 carries 13 yards.

 

[display name]

Start Benson, Addai, and Woodhead over Turner and Jackson at your own risk.

PPR scoring:Turner: 22Jackson: 20Benson: 10Woodhead: 1Non-PPR scoring:Turner: 20Jackson: 15Benson: 10Woodhead: 1It remains to be seen if Addai can surpass Jackson or Turner's production.

 

[solorca]

Start Benson, Addai, and Woodhead over Turner and Jackson at your own risk.

PPR scoring:Turner: 22Jackson: 20Benson: 10Woodhead: 1Non-PPR scoring:Turner: 20Jackson: 15Benson: 10Woodhead: 1It remains to be seen if Addai can surpass Jackson or Turner's production.

You just posted his quote where he clearly said that you wouldn't play Woodhead over Jackson...

 

[display name]

Start Benson, Addai, and Woodhead over Turner and Jackson at your own risk.

PPR scoring:Turner: 22Jackson: 20Benson: 10Woodhead: 1Non-PPR scoring:Turner: 20Jackson: 15Benson: 10Woodhead: 1It remains to be seen if Addai can surpass Jackson or Turner's production.

You just posted his quote where he clearly said that you wouldn't play Woodhead over Jackson...

After he said you would in the OP. It is as clear as day in the OP. He says "These next RBs would be in my 11-20 range." He goes on to list the Addai, Benson, and Woodhead. He next says "Some guys I am not expecting as much out of." He goes on to list Jackson, along with this little quote: "I have him on the lower end of the top25." He also has Turner under this category. C'mon now... McCluster and Greene were layups... no one needed to be told not to start them. It really couldn't be any more clear than that, but make of it what you will.Later on I call him on backing off what he said in the OP. He says "No, not at all." Okay. There is some serious logical deficiency here. I am just here to warn the shark pool not to follow his advice when it is bad. Dislike me all you want for it. And mind you, with the smack downs he has been trying to put on those who come in here and disagree with him, I believe he deserves no mercy and will call him on his lousy advice all I want to. Deal with it.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

After he said you would in the OP. It is as clear as day in the OP. He says "These next RBs would be in my 11-20 range." He goes on to list the Addai, Benson, and Woodhead. He next says "Some guys I am not expecting as much out of." He goes on to list Jackson, along with this little quote: "I have him on the lower end of the top25." He also has Turner under this category. C'mon now... McCluster and Greene were layups... no one needed to be told not to start them. It really couldn't be any more clear than that, but make of it what you will.Later on I call him on backing off what he said in the OP. He says "No, not at all." Okay. There is some serious logical deficiency here. I am just here to warn the shark pool not to follow his advice when it is bad. Dislike me all you want for it. And mind you, with the smack downs he has been trying to put on those who come in here and disagree with him, I believe he deserves no mercy and will call him on his lousy advice all I want to. Deal with it.

-I do't do this thread to chest thump, I've been at it the better part of 10 years and even those that have an axe to grind with me know better than to try and act like this in the thread. I don't fling it in peoples face when I am right, that's not the reason I do this. It's to stimulate conversation so please don't ruin it for everyone and force the mods to have to shut it off. I think most people get their money's worth in this and since it's free I'll let you decide that for yourself. -I was correct about New England running more this week and I took a shot on Woodhead and I think I did mention Ridley as a sleeper but I'll check. -If you would like to start your own thread and build up a following then please go for it. Others have tried and failed miserably in here. I crave more information in the SP and lately its just chest thumbing and I told you so, who needs that?-The purpose of the thread is to stimulate ideas, conversation, and possible overlooks on rosters, waiver wires and such. Please don't come in here and try to play the 1 up game. I can pull a whole bunch of stuff I wrote in here that was just about spot on but that doesn't make me a genius, in fact its insulting to the folks who do me the honor of checking in every week. -I do this for the people who enjoy reading a little more than just a plain old cheat sheet. You can find that anywhere on the internet. You will notice that FBG has changed many things over the years and I would hope some of those ideas were nudged along with this thread. I can point to the fact that now they have the ability to see instant feedback by members being able to post under the weekly articles, that was something I spoke up about 6 or 7 years ago with this thread. Also you are starting to see notes next to some of the cheat sheets so folks have an inkling of what they are thinking in the rankings. -This thread started so we could discuss the games in depth and not feel like we had to worry always about being right or wrong. I stick my neck out a little bit and I understand sometimes people want to take a swing but let's not turn this into a Monday Morning chest thump. -Finally let me say this. I have been asked to do this on several pay sites, that's not a lie or an exaggeration and I always say no because the thread is nothing more than an editorial if I don't have the weekly input of my fellow Sharks. I hope that doesn't become lost due to a few people that suddenly want to make it a who is right who is wrong thread. David Dodds and Sigmund Bloom don't bat 100% on the cheat sheets that people pay good money for. In fact no one can be 100% that I know of. So until I make it there I will just keep trying to get a little better. Have a good one

 

[smackdaddies]

YOU SUCK MOP

I said it in all caps so it must be true

I WAS RIGHT AND YOU SUCK

although I never manned up and made my own post because I am to chickesht to do so

YOU THINK YOUR SO GOOD BUT YOU WERE WRONG SO YOU SUCK

so there. I told you.

 

[display name]

After he said you would in the OP. It is as clear as day in the OP. He says "These next RBs would be in my 11-20 range." He goes on to list the Addai, Benson, and Woodhead. He next says "Some guys I am not expecting as much out of." He goes on to list Jackson, along with this little quote: "I have him on the lower end of the top25." He also has Turner under this category. C'mon now... McCluster and Greene were layups... no one needed to be told not to start them. It really couldn't be any more clear than that, but make of it what you will.Later on I call him on backing off what he said in the OP. He says "No, not at all." Okay. There is some serious logical deficiency here. I am just here to warn the shark pool not to follow his advice when it is bad. Dislike me all you want for it. And mind you, with the smack downs he has been trying to put on those who come in here and disagree with him, I believe he deserves no mercy and will call him on his lousy advice all I want to. Deal with it.

-I do't do this thread to chest thump, I've been at it the better part of 10 years and even those that have an axe to grind with me know better than to try and act like this in the thread. I don't fling it in peoples face when I am right, that's not the reason I do this. It's to stimulate conversation so please don't ruin it for everyone and force the mods to have to shut it off. I think most people get their money's worth in this and since it's free I'll let you decide that for yourself. -I was correct about New England running more this week and I took a shot on Woodhead and I think I did mention Ridley as a sleeper but I'll check. -If you would like to start your own thread and build up a following then please go for it. Others have tried and failed miserably in here. I crave more information in the SP and lately its just chest thumbing and I told you so, who needs that?-The purpose of the thread is to stimulate ideas, conversation, and possible overlooks on rosters, waiver wires and such. Please don't come in here and try to play the 1 up game. I can pull a whole bunch of stuff I wrote in here that was just about spot on but that doesn't make me a genius, in fact its insulting to the folks who do me the honor of checking in every week. -I do this for the people who enjoy reading a little more than just a plain old cheat sheet. You can find that anywhere on the internet. You will notice that FBG has changed many things over the years and I would hope some of those ideas were nudged along with this thread. I can point to the fact that now they have the ability to see instant feedback by members being able to post under the weekly articles, that was something I spoke up about 6 or 7 years ago with this thread. Also you are starting to see notes next to some of the cheat sheets so folks have an inkling of what they are thinking in the rankings. -This thread started so we could discuss the games in depth and not feel like we had to worry always about being right or wrong. I stick my neck out a little bit and I understand sometimes people want to take a swing but let's not turn this into a Monday Morning chest thump. -Finally let me say this. I have been asked to do this on several pay sites, that's not a lie or an exaggeration and I always say no because the thread is nothing more than an editorial if I don't have the weekly input of my fellow Sharks. I hope that doesn't become lost due to a few people that suddenly want to make it a who is right who is wrong thread. David Dodds and Sigmund Bloom don't bat 100% on the cheat sheets that people pay good money for. In fact no one can be 100% that I know of. So until I make it there I will just keep trying to get a little better. Have a good one

Why anyone would pay for your advice is beyond me. Look... if you come in here and recommend to start Woodhead, Benson, and Addai over Jackson and Turner, I am probably going to come in here and say "don't do it!". That is what you do this for, right? To stimulate conversation? When I say that I disagree with your reasoning and explain why (as I did about Woodhead being listed as a RB to exploit this week, which was a silly analysis) and you then speak out of both sides of our mouth, saying in the OP Woodhead > Jackson this week, but then saying the opposite in response to me, and then having the gall to then say that you aren't backing off what you said in the OP, what exactly do you expect, bro? I was in your threads last year calling you on your bad advice as well. And I will probably continue this year, unless I get bored with it.Dude... you should appreciate this. Maybe it will cause you to pick up your game, use some sound logic, stand by what you say instead of back off it and then somehow manage to still claim that you aren't backing off it, and just generally stop trying to be so smart with your lousy predictions that usually turn out wrong. And maybe you will stop chewing people out who come in here and disagree with you.Look man this is an open forum. You are free to post your RB to avoid exploit thread. I am free to come in and say it is wrong and don't follow it. And then I am free to say I was right and you were wrong. Stop trying to tell people what they can and should do.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

YOU SUCK MOPI said it in all caps so it must be trueI WAS RIGHT AND YOU SUCKalthough I never manned up and made my own post because I am to chickesht to do soYOU THINK YOUR SO GOOD BUT YOU WERE WRONG SO YOU SUCKso there. I told you.

exactly

 

[display name]

YOU SUCK MOPI said it in all caps so it must be trueI WAS RIGHT AND YOU SUCKalthough I never manned up and made my own post because I am to chickesht to do soYOU THINK YOUR SO GOOD BUT YOU WERE WRONG SO YOU SUCKso there. I told you.

Funny stuff here. Each thing I am now addressing with MOP were things that I commented on in the thread. So yeah... good try.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And we can exercise our option to put you on ignore.

If anyone is unfamiliar with how that feature works, just go to your setting and type in the handle name, and poof they go away.

 

[display name]

And we can exercise our option to put you on ignore.If anyone is unfamiliar with how that feature works, just go to your setting and type in the handle name, and poof they go away.

Sounds like the man's solution to the problem.2 carries for 13 yards though. Seriously.

 

[oldmoney]

First possession: Ridley

Second possession: Lawfirm

Third possession: Woodhead

Woodhead ripped off a 12 yard gain on his first carry, followed by a 1 yard stuff where he got his bell rung. End of his day. Criticizing a prediction after a player got hurt is pretty poor form. What's clear is Belichick will run with whoever has the hot hand, as evidenced by him rotating in different backs on the first three possessions.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

First possession: Ridley

Second possession: Lawfirm

Third possession: Woodhead

Woodhead ripped off a 12 yard gain on his first carry, followed by a 1 yard stuff where he got his bell rung. End of his day. Criticizing a prediction after a player got hurt is pretty poor form. What's clear is Belichick will run with whoever has the hot hand, as evidenced by him rotating in different backs on the first three possessions.

Good info OM, ty.

And New England did have success running the football this week. Seems clear they know they are going to have to get a little more balance if they want to make a deep run.

 

[display name]

First possession: RidleySecond possession: LawfirmThird possession: WoodheadWoodhead ripped off a 12 yard gain on his first carry, followed by a 1 yard stuff where he got his bell rung. End of his day. Criticizing a prediction after a player got hurt is pretty poor form. What's clear is Belichick will run with whoever has the hot hand, as evidenced by him rotating in different backs on the first three possessions.

Fair enough. I was not aware that Woodhead was out due to injury. But what is also clear is that you don't want to start RB's in 3 person committee's where the coach will ride the hot hand. It is almost impossible to predict outcomes in those situations. I still say, huge matchup to avoid under all circumstances, and that was my point before the games.

 

[display name]

First possession: RidleySecond possession: LawfirmThird possession: WoodheadWoodhead ripped off a 12 yard gain on his first carry, followed by a 1 yard stuff where he got his bell rung. End of his day. Criticizing a prediction after a player got hurt is pretty poor form. What's clear is Belichick will run with whoever has the hot hand, as evidenced by him rotating in different backs on the first three possessions.

Fair enough. I was not aware that Woodhead was out due to injury. But what is also clear is that you don't want to start RB's in 3 person committee's where the coach will ride the hot hand. It is almost impossible to predict outcomes in those situations. I still say, huge matchup to avoid under all circumstances, and that was my point before the games.

(Rotoworld) Patriots RB Danny Woodhead limped off the field with a lower left leg injury late in the second quarter of Sunday's game against the Raiders.Analysis: Woodhead was hopping on one foot as he made his way to the sideline, but it may have been only a cramp. He had just two rushes for 13 yards compared to Stevan Ridley's three for 36 and BenJarvus Green-Ellis' eight for 39 in the first half.He left the game in the late 2nd quarter. So I could have expected another 2 carries at least?Nice attempt to cherry pick and distort the facts.

 

[oldmoney]

First possession: RidleySecond possession: LawfirmThird possession: WoodheadWoodhead ripped off a 12 yard gain on his first carry, followed by a 1 yard stuff where he got his bell rung. End of his day. Criticizing a prediction after a player got hurt is pretty poor form. What's clear is Belichick will run with whoever has the hot hand, as evidenced by him rotating in different backs on the first three possessions.

Fair enough. I was not aware that Woodhead was out due to injury. But what is also clear is that you don't want to start RB's in 3 person committee's where the coach will ride the hot hand. It is almost impossible to predict outcomes in those situations. I still say, huge matchup to avoid under all circumstances, and that was my point before the games.

(Rotoworld) Patriots RB Danny Woodhead limped off the field with a lower left leg injury late in the second quarter of Sunday's game against the Raiders.Analysis: Woodhead was hopping on one foot as he made his way to the sideline, but it may have been only a cramp. He had just two rushes for 13 yards compared to Stevan Ridley's three for 36 and BenJarvus Green-Ellis' eight for 39 in the first half.He left the game in the late 2nd quarter. So I could have expected another 2 carries at least?Nice attempt to cherry pick and distort the facts.

I certainly didn't intend to... its a fact that the Pats only had 3 possessions late into the second quarter. Strange paced game. My bad on the bell rung, I recalled he looked woozy on the play but it may have indeed been a cramp.

 

[ready5]

mop, stop trying to reason with cranky people or you're just going to get bitter. and thicken that skin a little.

 

[stinnett42]

MOP, two things:

1. Please explain the "ignore" thing again. I can't find "settings."

2. I have been using your NFL game picks and the score of every game for three years as a betting aid and came out ahead the last two years and am ahead this year also. Please keep picking the scores of the game.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP, two things:1. Please explain the "ignore" thing again. I can't find "settings."2. I have been using your NFL game picks and the score of every game for three years as a betting aid and came out ahead the last two years and am ahead this year also. Please keep picking the scores of the game.

PM on the way.I hear you Ready5

 

[Multiple Scores]

Glad I went with my gut and went wells over hightower.

What do you think of beanie assuming he's 100%. I can't get a good read on the Giants defense.

I don't think he will be 100%, this is tarting to look like 2010 again where he can't play and is always a game time decision, might even start but then pull up with cramps in the 2nd Q...just saying. I have Alphonso Smith playing this week and should have mentioned him but I don't think he will be very productive. Outside the top30.