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*** San Francisco 49ers thread *** rookie minicamp May 10th and 11th (1 Viewer)

If we play how we played tonight or last week, we get rolled.
1st half.

If they play like they did in the 2nd half they beat KC by 3 scores.
I have no faith at all in Wilks outsmarting Reid and Mahomes, none! Guy is the worst DC in the league.

If we just had one more season of Demeco :kicksrock:
I blame a lot of this on Wilks but there’s also the fact that Armstead is a bit over the hill, Bosa’s been overextended and Hargrave is a pass rushing specialist. Kinlaw, Gregory, and Young are replacement level linemen despite their names and draft pedigree. The drop off to those guys from Ekubam, Ferrell, and Omenihu has been drastic this year (which is sad because the latter group are merely journeymen).
They never should have let Buckner go, if we’re really mining for answers.
The Kinlaw draft pick would be as bad as Trey if not for all the addition capital they gave away for Lance.
I’d argue that sequence of transactions was at least as harmful as the Lance trade.
I think you could make a sound argument there.
 
Another thing to remember is that the last time they played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, the 49ers didn't have McCaffrey. Yeah, I know he suffered a nasty hit and landed on his head toward the end of the game, but I think he'll be alright. It looks like he's a lock to win Offensive Player of the Year. I see him getting at least 100 yards in the Super Bowl. I wonder what the odds are already on him being named Super Bowl MVP. He's got to be the front-runner, right?
 
What’s Marv Levy’s legacy? To me he’s a guy who could never cross the finish line… KS starting to build a similar legacy, imo. He’ll be a HOF coach, but without the ring, his tenure in the league will come down to a failure, imo. He needs this win.
 
What’s Marv Levy’s legacy? To me he’s a guy who could never cross the finish line… KS starting to build a similar legacy, imo. He’ll be a HOF coach, but without the ring, his tenure in the league will come down to a failure, imo. He needs this win.
Andy Reid didn't win a SB until his 20th season as a head coach, and it took Mahomes to finally get him over the hump.
 
What’s Marv Levy’s legacy? To me he’s a guy who could never cross the finish line… KS starting to build a similar legacy, imo. He’ll be a HOF coach, but without the ring, his tenure in the league will come down to a failure, imo. He needs this win.
He might get one in 2 weeks. Cmon
 
Another thing to remember is that the last time they played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, the 49ers didn't have McCaffrey. Yeah, I know he suffered a nasty hit and landed on his head toward the end of the game, but I think he'll be alright. It looks like he's a lock to win Offensive Player of the Year. I see him getting at least 100 yards in the Super Bowl. I wonder what the odds are already on him being named Super Bowl MVP. He's got to be the front-runner, right?
And the Chiefs had Tyreek Hill, who literally won them the game on that 3rd & 17 conversion.
 
If we play how we played tonight or last week, we get rolled.
1st half.

If they play like they did in the 2nd half they beat KC by 3 scores.
I have no faith at all in Wilks outsmarting Reid and Mahomes, none! Guy is the worst DC in the league.

If we just had one more season of Demeco :kicksrock:
I blame a lot of this on Wilks but there’s also the fact that Armstead is a bit over the hill, Bosa’s been overextended and Hargrave is a pass rushing specialist. Kinlaw, Gregory, and Young are replacement level linemen despite their names and draft pedigree. The drop off to those guys from Ekubam, Ferrell, and Omenihu has been drastic this year (which is sad because the latter group are merely journeymen).
They never should have let Buckner go, if we’re really mining for answers.
The Kinlaw draft pick would be as bad as Trey if not for all the addition capital they gave away for Lance.
I’d argue that sequence of transactions was at least as harmful as the Lance trade.
I think you could make a sound argument there.
Well, with the exception that they took Aiyuk a few picks later.

Still, they coulda resigned Buckner & drafted Lamb.

I love Aiyuk, but imagine Lamb+Deebo*CMC
 
Shanahan needs to run CMC (and Deebo) down KCs throat all day and try to keep the Chiefs offense off the field.

If he's ever gonna really overuse CMC, it needs to be this next game.
 
49ers RB Christian McCaffrey said, "My shoulder felt a little weird," and that's why he didn't go back in the game. He said he didn't feel like he'd be able to grip the ball.

Kyle Shanahan McCaffrey told him it was a stinger when he came out.

"I don't know, I'm not a doctor, but I feel fine now." - McCaffrey after the game, on how his shoulder is feeling.
 
The 49ers beat very team that made the NFC Playoffs this season.

#2 Cowboys
#3 Lions
#4 Bucs
#5 Eagles
#6 Rams
#7 Packers
 
Just watched the 15 minute highlight reel.

Of all decisions, I’m shocked he didn’t go for it on the 4th at the end of the 1st half, considering how he called everything else.

Beyond the obvious 4th downs, that 20 yard run on 3rd & 4 from Brock on their final drive might’ve been the biggest play of the game. That and the 3rd down Montgomery stop. Furthermore, to add to the critique in the Campbell coaching, if you run it there, you need the 4th down play known and ready to go after you’re stopped. I’d rather punt the extra 10-15 seconds than burn the timeout.

Those were the 2 biggest plays of this game (excluding the 4th down plays).
 
The only 49ers players that were on the 2019 team:

Kyle Juszczyk
Deebo Samuel
George Kittle
Nick Bosa
Fred Warner
Dre Greenlaw
Arik Armstead
Mitch Wishnowsky
Kevin Givens
Ross Dwelley
 
Sheesh, what a game. Purdy is a baller. That spin out of a sack to a rollout throw to Juice on the sidelines was absolutely insane. Deebo doing Deebo things was fun to watch. Watching the replay again, I'm surprised they picked up the flag on that Aiyuk catch off the defender's facemask. Seems like the defender bumped him and forced Aiyuk to slow down a few steps before trying to catch the ball. Insane concentration from Aiyuk on that play. I dunno, you tell me. Looks like the defender clearly initiates contact at the ~20 which throws the timing off, causing Aiyuk to slow down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l1oNP8x7tQ

3rd and Jauan with a crazy one-handed catch to keep the drive alive was clutch. Not sure why people are using it as an example of "Purdy being lucky". I thought it was a helluva play by Purdy. https://www.49ers.com/video/jauan-jennings-san-francisco-49ers-detroit-lions-nfl-nfc-championships

As others have said many times, something has to change on the D if we're going to hang with KC. I have a bad feeling Mahomes is going to shred our dumb "rush 4 drop 7 into zone every single play", especially with our front 4 generating little/no pressure. To their credit, they turned it around in the second half (it sure helped to have a few key drops from the Lions), and made Goff move a bit, but Mahomes is way better in those situations.

Utterly shocked the 9ers opened as favorites.
 
I shared my experience at Levi's yesterday in another thread, but thought some of you might enjoy it so...

I was in Levi's Stadium yesterday. It was pretty awesome to be there for what turned into a historical game. I'm a little confused by the experience. So, I'm gonna try to work it out here, cuz krista needs more from us.

I'm super grateful to my bf from early childhood for offering me the ticket. His mom used to say my mom half-raised him. His mom worked. My mom started babysitting him when he was just 3. He's done well in life and we were in a luxury box above the 9er bench about the 15 yard line. I hadn't seen him since 2002, but we've been communicating semi-regularly the past few years over mutual interests.

He is the biggest 9er fan I know. I am the biggest Cowboy fan he knows. We hate each other's teams, always have. He knew I would be for Detroit. In another thread I said I didn't know if I should wear my Roger Staubach jersey or get a Barry Sanders one. @rockaction suggested I should avoid potential idiots and do my buddy a solid by wearing 9er colors. I vomited in my mouth a little but turns out rock was on to something. My nephew suggested I wear all black since that would be unique and he could try to spot me. I did and he did.

I curbed my enthusiasm as the Lions were crushing SF. I'm not a salt in the wounds kinda guy, but inside I was just giddy at what I was seeing. Lions fans were doing just fine celebrating that first half. Whew, that box I was sharing was morbidly depressed at halftime. So I started lying to my friend. Telling him if Detroit could do that in the first half, SF could in the 2nd. "I've seen many epic comebacks. Keep your head up. They haven't lost yet."

Others in our box started getting into it. They started foolishly being positive about a comeback. I felt a little evil for giving them false hope, but hey who cares, they're 9er fans. Then the comeback started and these damn 9er fans started patting me on the back, high fiving me and disgusting things like that. And then, oh I am so ashamed to confess this sin. I. Started. Cheering. For. The San Fancisco 49ers. Ooof, I don't even know who I am today.
 
Odds to win the 2025 Super Bowl (from FanDuel Sportsbook):

49ers +450
Ravens +700
Chiefs +850
Bills +1200
Cowboys +1500
Bengals +1500
Lions +1700
Eagles +1700
Dolphins +2000
...
 
#49ers pass rusher Chase Young (#92) is taking some heat for his lack of effort on this play when Jahmyr Gibbs scored a touchdown:


Pathetic.
He was terrible all game. Couldn’t set the edge to save his life. They really miss Ferrell.
A friend of mine texted me during the game that the Niners should sign JJ Watt this week. I chuckled but seeing stuff like this, he would have to be an upgrade on what Young was giving them.
 
This is awesome, she's about to be RICH :moneybag:

Kyle Juszczyk won't be the only Juszczyk wearing official NFL merchandise for the Super Bowl.

Kristin Juszczyk, who is married to the San Francisco 49ers fullback, reportedly received a license from the league to use its logos in her apparel designs, per Asli Pelit of Sportico.

The jackets she designs have gained plenty of popularity throughout the playoffs, especially after Taylor Swift wore one to the Kansas City Chiefs' game against the Miami Dolphins.

 
Wanted to pop back in and say congrats to you guys. I’m so bummed the Lions blew that game, but a big part of that was SF stepping up and taking it.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Appreciate the kind words, especially after the heartbreak. Awesome young team in Detroit, they should be a contender the next few years. Hutchinson is going to join the ranks of Bosa, Watt, Parsons, Garrett, etc. over the next year or two, he's a monster.
 
I think the game plan needs to be to take away Kelce and Rice. Need to sure up the run defense too. But if they're going to lose, make people like MVS, Pacheco, Grey, etc beat us.
 
Wanted to pop back in and say congrats to you guys. I’m so bummed the Lions blew that game, but a big part of that was SF stepping up and taking it.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Appreciate the kind words, especially after the heartbreak. Awesome young team in Detroit, they should be a contender the next few years. Hutchinson is going to join the ranks of Bosa, Watt, Parsons, Garrett, etc. over the next year or two, he's a monster.

Speaking of Hutchinson... https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1751762834600628507
 
Wanted to pop back in and say congrats to you guys. I’m so bummed the Lions blew that game, but a big part of that was SF stepping up and taking it.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Appreciate the kind words, especially after the heartbreak. Awesome young team in Detroit, they should be a contender the next few years. Hutchinson is going to join the ranks of Bosa, Watt, Parsons, Garrett, etc. over the next year or two, he's a monster.

Speaking of Hutchinson... https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1751762834600628507
He is the best blocking TE in the league. Prob end up being the only time in his career a TE does that to him.
 
Watching Moodys miss from Sunday. All his misses have been to the right. Virtually all his makes split the upright or a bit right of it. Maybe line up a yard further left of where you think is ideal?

Just a thought.
 
I think the game plan needs to be to take away Kelce and Rice. Need to sure up the run defense too. But if they're going to lose, make people like MVS, Pacheco, Grey, etc beat us.
Also, run the friggin ball a TON and keep Mahomes on the sideline as much as possible. Dink and dunk to keep the chains moving and limit deep shots so every drive eats clock and keeps our defense feesh.
 
Watching the drive that put 49ers up 10 with 3 minutes left. Beautiful job running down the clock while still being aggressive. Runs and short passes to keep the clock running. Snapping the ball with 1 second left every play. CMC not letting himself be pushed out of bounds on the run before the Mitchell TD. The little things that end up big things. Nicely done.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
 
Watching the drive that put 49ers up 10 with 3 minutes left. Beautiful job running down the clock while still being aggressive. Runs and short passes to keep the clock running. Snapping the ball with 1 second left every play. CMC not letting himself be pushed out of bounds on the run before the Mitchell TD. The little things that end up big things. Nicely done.
Rewatched the game 2x. That 3rd and 4 20 yard run by Brock :moneybag:

Possibly the biggest play of the game excluding the 4th downs.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Also, I think the offense hasn’t resembled anything close to what we saw during the season either. Defense has collapsed, but that was more problematic throughout the season.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
Agree. Also think Wingnut is spot on about running CMC into the ground. He needs to run the ball 23-25x this game.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
Agree. Also think Wingnut is spot on about running CMC into the ground. He needs to run the ball 23-25x this game.

They are going into the break...CMC with 30+ touches has to be in the game plan.

The guy always gets 3 yards and more often than not gets 5 yards
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
The last time they were arguably hitting on all cylinders was maybe 12/10 against Seahawks. So it's 7 weeks. They may just be who they are at this point of the season.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
The last time they were arguably hitting on all cylinders was maybe 12/10 against Seahawks. So it's 7 weeks. They may just be who they are at this point of the season.
KC defense is playing their best ball of the season too. Best to just keep expectations in check.
 
Our offense hasn't been the same since before the Ravens game. We were rolling with 6 straight wins (avg 34 pts/game during that stretch) going into that game and only scored 19 points in that game. After that we scored 17 vs WAS, 20 vs LAR (starters rested), and 24 vs Green Bay before putting up 34 vs DET.

We limped into the playoffs losing 2 of our last 3 games and we haven't been able to right the ship and put together an entire game of good offense since week 15 against ARZ.

We need to start fast and not let up, otherwise it's gonna be a loooong day.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
The last time they were arguably hitting on all cylinders was maybe 12/10 against Seahawks. So it's 7 weeks. They may just be who they are at this point of the season.
KC defense is playing their best ball of the season too. Best to just keep expectations in check.
I wasn't too emotionally devastated in 2020 because I thought KC would win that game, and I'm approaching this one the same way.
 
I'm going to rewatch both championship games this week. My initial feeling going in is that SF has a better chance to be boat raced by KC than win. But I would have said the same thing about the Raven's chances in the 2012 super bowl, so strange things can happen on a given week. Wonder if I'll feel differently after a rewatch.

Any given week but this is where i lean as well. The 49ers just aren't playing well - especially the defense
Last 2 weeks have been subpar and they’ve still won. If they bring their A ball to this game, I not only think they win, but do it convincingly. Sadly, as you said, they haven’t been playing anywhere close to the top of their abilities.

Well that's just it...i haven't seen them bring their A game for awhile now so it's getting harder to believe it's in there. They play like they played the last 2 weeks the chiefs are going to win by 30
The last time they were arguably hitting on all cylinders was maybe 12/10 against Seahawks. So it's 7 weeks. They may just be who they are at this point of the season.
KC defense is playing their best ball of the season too. Best to just keep expectations in check.
I wasn't too emotionally devastated in 2020 because I thought KC would win that game, and I'm approaching this one the same way.
Can't argue with logic. I was devastated. Took my family to the Caribbean on a last minute vacation and we watched the game there. It was a preemptive celebration. While we enjoyed the vacation, it still stung bad. My kids hate Mahomes more than any one player to this day 4 years later.

I also have a decently sized wager from months back on the Niners winning the SB. I can't bring myself to hedge it. I'm putting $10 on the Chiefs ML for other reasons.
 
Mentally though, I'm preparing for the devastation, doing my best to accept the defeat. I mean, it's been since I was 10, what's another year?
 
If the NFL has its way, Swift will be with Kelce on the field after the game when they hoist the Lombardi.

Chiefs ML is the play.
 

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