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Scott Walker WI governor vs the Packers & teachers (1 Viewer)
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Wow, so a Madison teacher wrote an opinion peice against the bill? Holy smokes this is indeed breaking news. I'm absolutely shocked. This changes everything!
cr8f
Footballguy
Then her report expands to examples of how GOP governors say states are broke(so they must fix the deficit) yet lower taxes to corporations and the rich (making deficits worse).
I would understand tax cuts tied to job creation but giving more money to companies isn't going to create jobs in a bad economy. I'd rather see a payroll tax moratorium for a year or 2 or something making is easier to create jobs.
Anyone have ideas to create jobs?
This seems like income re-distriubution upwards.
I would understand tax cuts tied to job creation but giving more money to companies isn't going to create jobs in a bad economy. I'd rather see a payroll tax moratorium for a year or 2 or something making is easier to create jobs.
Anyone have ideas to create jobs?
This seems like income re-distriubution upwards.
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
It is absolutley amazing how blind you are. One of your liberal buddies asked if Walker has created any new jobs and some examples were posted. Then he went on in a lame attempt to ask if they were "good" jobs. I suggest you take time to read how the state has provided some assistance to companies and what those companies are doing to create jobs.
sho nuff
Footballguy
The Wisconsin tax cuts had provisions that businesses must move there or create jobs.And the cuts were about 144 mil? the projected deficit is 3 bil.
Whats amazing is liberals don't get what corporate tax cuts are about...which is why Illinois will be losing these businesses to the surrounding states that will give them the tax cuts they are looking for.
That and Maddow? Really?
Whats amazing is liberals don't get what corporate tax cuts are about...which is why Illinois will be losing these businesses to the surrounding states that will give them the tax cuts they are looking for.
That and Maddow? Really?
Pathetic. Has nothing to do with teachers or anything going on here. And is why nobody watches a hack like Maddows.
cr8f
Footballguy
Further analysis of the emails tells a little different story
Seeking a way to counter a growing protest movement, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker cited his email, confidently declaring that most people writing his office had urged him to eliminate nearly all union rights for state workers.
But an Associated Press analysis of the emails shows that, for close to a week, messages in Walker's inbox were running roughly 2-to-1 against his plans. The tide did not turn in his favor until shortly after desperate Democrats fled the state to stop a vote they knew they would lose.
The AP analyzed more than 26,000 emails sent to Walker from the time he formally announced his plans until he first mentioned the emails in public.
During that time, the overall tally ran 55 percent in support, 44 percent against. In the weeks since, Walker has continued to receive tens of thousands of emails on the issue.
The AP obtained the emails through a legal settlement with Walker's office, the result of a lawsuit filed by the news cooperative and the Isthmus, a weekly newspaper in Madison. The news organizations sued after the governor's office did not respond to requests for the emails filed under the state's open records law.
Walker's comments about the emails came on the evening of Feb. 17, as roughly 25,000 protesters packed into the Capitol's ornate rotunda and filled its lawn outside. They could be heard screaming outside the conference room where he met with reporters in a news conference broadcast live by several cable news networks.
"The more than 8,000 emails we got today, the majority are telling us to stay firm, to stay strong, to stand with the taxpayers," Walker said of the emails. "While the protesters have every right to be heard, I'm going to make sure the taxpayers of the state are heard and their voices are not drowned out by those circling the Capitol."
Whole story here
Seeking a way to counter a growing protest movement, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker cited his email, confidently declaring that most people writing his office had urged him to eliminate nearly all union rights for state workers.
But an Associated Press analysis of the emails shows that, for close to a week, messages in Walker's inbox were running roughly 2-to-1 against his plans. The tide did not turn in his favor until shortly after desperate Democrats fled the state to stop a vote they knew they would lose.
The AP analyzed more than 26,000 emails sent to Walker from the time he formally announced his plans until he first mentioned the emails in public.
During that time, the overall tally ran 55 percent in support, 44 percent against. In the weeks since, Walker has continued to receive tens of thousands of emails on the issue.
The AP obtained the emails through a legal settlement with Walker's office, the result of a lawsuit filed by the news cooperative and the Isthmus, a weekly newspaper in Madison. The news organizations sued after the governor's office did not respond to requests for the emails filed under the state's open records law.
Walker's comments about the emails came on the evening of Feb. 17, as roughly 25,000 protesters packed into the Capitol's ornate rotunda and filled its lawn outside. They could be heard screaming outside the conference room where he met with reporters in a news conference broadcast live by several cable news networks.
"The more than 8,000 emails we got today, the majority are telling us to stay firm, to stay strong, to stand with the taxpayers," Walker said of the emails. "While the protesters have every right to be heard, I'm going to make sure the taxpayers of the state are heard and their voices are not drowned out by those circling the Capitol."
Whole story here
cr8f
Footballguy
Someone needs to explain to Walker the bill didn't pass.It's being held up in the courts but he's behaving like it did.
They can do a new bill but it may not pass now with the recalls underway. If 2 more republicans vote no it won't.
What authority without a bill does he have to do this? Was there another bill I missed?
The Sentinel Journal reports:
The law would make existing civil-service positions into 37 new political appointments, including 14 general counsels, 14 communications positions in state agencies and other positions, including legislative liaisons doing lobbying for agencies. That would allow Walker and agency secretaries to hire and fire employees in those positions at will.
Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said that made sense because workers in those jobs represent Walker as part of their work….
Most of the positions have at least some duties providing information to the public. For instance, the general counsels serve as their agencies’ top lawyers and handle requests under the state’s open records law as well as a host of other issues, from advising agency secretaries to personnel matters.
“I think it’s important that agencies have public spokespeople who feel a sense of responsibility to the public and the public’s right to know. Anything that erodes that is bad for Wisconsin,” said Bill Lueders, president of the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council.
They can do a new bill but it may not pass now with the recalls underway. If 2 more republicans vote no it won't.
What authority without a bill does he have to do this? Was there another bill I missed?
The Sentinel Journal reports:
The law would make existing civil-service positions into 37 new political appointments, including 14 general counsels, 14 communications positions in state agencies and other positions, including legislative liaisons doing lobbying for agencies. That would allow Walker and agency secretaries to hire and fire employees in those positions at will.
Walker spokesman Cullen Werwie said that made sense because workers in those jobs represent Walker as part of their work….
Most of the positions have at least some duties providing information to the public. For instance, the general counsels serve as their agencies’ top lawyers and handle requests under the state’s open records law as well as a host of other issues, from advising agency secretaries to personnel matters.
“I think it’s important that agencies have public spokespeople who feel a sense of responsibility to the public and the public’s right to know. Anything that erodes that is bad for Wisconsin,” said Bill Lueders, president of the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council.
dparker713
Footballguy
There's a fairly good chance that this is none of the courts' business. The bill isn't law until properly published, but Walker may not be the only person overstepping his bounds right now.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
Why don't you address the issues raised instead of attacking the messenger.
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
Oh, you mean the same way that Obamacare was ruled unconstitutional yet Obama is behaving like it wasn't.
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Eric Stratton
Footballguy
Where is the attack?
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Court challenge is irrelevant. They did all they had to to get it passed under the circumstances. There is no "24 hour" rule that's relevant. In fact, there's a specific exemption to speed things up if there's a threat to the process, and the behavior of storming the building and preventing the lawful assembly immediately afterward proves there was a threat to the process.
Even if the courts rule otherwise, the legislature can pass it again, and there's nothing to stop them from doing so. The only reason they haven't done so already, and ended the court challenge, is to establish the precedent that what they did was kosher to give them the same maneuver the next time the Democrats bail.
Even if the courts rule otherwise, the legislature can pass it again, and there's nothing to stop them from doing so. The only reason they haven't done so already, and ended the court challenge, is to establish the precedent that what they did was kosher to give them the same maneuver the next time the Democrats bail.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
I read today the Sec. of State (Dem.) Doug LaFollet who is supposed to publish this law Friday, said that he didn't think the TRO will stand from a legal point.
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cr8f
Footballguy
By: Phil Pfuehler, River Falls Journal
River Falls police were asked to track down and find a suspectwho had made off with a batch of Sen. Sheila Harsdorf recall petition signatures late Sunday afternoon. The alleged theft occurred on the sidewalk near EconoFoods. The male suspect pretended he wanted to sign the petition to recall Harsdorf but instead swiped the forms with signatures and drove off.
The man drove back in five minutes and tossed the petition toward the group of volunteers. Either it was a poor throw or they couldn’t catch. The paperwork landed on wet pavement.
With a vehicular and suspect description, an officer traced the man to his home near the River Falls Area Hospital.
The man seemed indignant that a police officer was at his door and denied being near EconoFoods. Then he said he couldn’t be accused of stealing the petition signatures because he returned them.
When informed of his arrest, he allegedly resisted being handcuffed and began yelling about police brutality. His wife, also home, told her husband to calm down.
As he was taken outside, the man’s cat tried to slip out the door. The officer stuck a foot out to block the animal but accidentally kicked him in the head. Again, the man began yelling about police brutality.
Back at the police station, the man was calmer and apologized for his conduct. He said he found the sight of the Harsdorf-recall petitioners very disturbing. He was released after receiving a $177 disorderly conduct fine.
Police also:
--Arrested a 29-year-old local man for drunk driving at 5:20 a.m. Sunday after he allegedly drove into the Arrow Building Center, hit a parking lot fence and then drove into the lumber yard and hit a sign post. His car was badly damaged and leaking fuel.
--Arrested a 23-year-old Hammond man for drunk driving at 1:55 a.m. Sunday on the edge of town at Hwy. 29 and County Road E. A truck driver following behind and noticing the Hammond man was swerving and even driving on the wrong side of the road got him to pull over by flashing his bright wig-wag lights. The suspect told an officer he was headed toward Hammond from River Falls. Reminded that he was actually coming from south of River Falls, the man said he must have got mixed up and lost.
For more, please read Police Beat in the March 23 print edition of the River Falls Journal.
River Falls police were asked to track down and find a suspectwho had made off with a batch of Sen. Sheila Harsdorf recall petition signatures late Sunday afternoon. The alleged theft occurred on the sidewalk near EconoFoods. The male suspect pretended he wanted to sign the petition to recall Harsdorf but instead swiped the forms with signatures and drove off.
The man drove back in five minutes and tossed the petition toward the group of volunteers. Either it was a poor throw or they couldn’t catch. The paperwork landed on wet pavement.
With a vehicular and suspect description, an officer traced the man to his home near the River Falls Area Hospital.
The man seemed indignant that a police officer was at his door and denied being near EconoFoods. Then he said he couldn’t be accused of stealing the petition signatures because he returned them.
When informed of his arrest, he allegedly resisted being handcuffed and began yelling about police brutality. His wife, also home, told her husband to calm down.
As he was taken outside, the man’s cat tried to slip out the door. The officer stuck a foot out to block the animal but accidentally kicked him in the head. Again, the man began yelling about police brutality.
Back at the police station, the man was calmer and apologized for his conduct. He said he found the sight of the Harsdorf-recall petitioners very disturbing. He was released after receiving a $177 disorderly conduct fine.
Police also:
--Arrested a 29-year-old local man for drunk driving at 5:20 a.m. Sunday after he allegedly drove into the Arrow Building Center, hit a parking lot fence and then drove into the lumber yard and hit a sign post. His car was badly damaged and leaking fuel.
--Arrested a 23-year-old Hammond man for drunk driving at 1:55 a.m. Sunday on the edge of town at Hwy. 29 and County Road E. A truck driver following behind and noticing the Hammond man was swerving and even driving on the wrong side of the road got him to pull over by flashing his bright wig-wag lights. The suspect told an officer he was headed toward Hammond from River Falls. Reminded that he was actually coming from south of River Falls, the man said he must have got mixed up and lost.
For more, please read Police Beat in the March 23 print edition of the River Falls Journal.
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
For the love of God could you at least delete crap that has nothing to do with this! WTF is wrong with you?
Ookie Pringle
Footballguy
Well how about this cut and paste.
State has borrowed $1.56 billion for unemployment benefits
March 22, 2011
It doesn't have an effect on the budget mess in Madison, but Wisconsin has another money problem on its hands.
And it's a big one. In the aftermath of the recession, Wisconsin has borrowed $1.56 billion from the federal government to keep unemployment checks coming, figures from the state Department of Workforce Development show.
The money owed has no impact on Gov. Scott Walker's biennial budget or his efforts to balance the books, according to James Buchen, vice president of government relations for Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, a pro-business group.
Businesses pay into the program through unemployment taxes. In good times, the program has plenty of money for jobless pay. And as the economy improves, businesses that pay into the system could reduce the deficit. But the deficit also could result in changes in contributions or a reduction in unemployment benefits.
"There's a box around this program," said Buchen, a member of a business-labor advisory council that makes recommendations on maintaining the unemployment benefits fund. "That is to say, employers pay for it. Period. End of discussion. There is no state general program revenue. And there is no money that is taken out of it for other purposes."
While the amount owed to the federal government is eye-popping, Wisconsin is not alone. As many as 30 states have run out of unemployment benefits money and have had to borrow from the federal government.
ProPublica, an independent, nonprofit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest, looked at the program nationwide and concluded some states were even worse off. Illinois owes nearly $2.6 billion. California, the biggest state in the union in terms of population, owes nearly $10 billion.
In Wisconsin, employers pay jobless taxes on each employee's wages up to the taxable wage base. The taxable wage base was $12,000 for 2010 but was increased to $13,000 for 2011 and 2012. It will be $14,000 in 2013.
In good economic times, the fund was in good shape. But when the Great Recession hit, people were laid off and sought unemployment benefits. The crush of those applications sapped the state's unemployment fund reserves, forcing the state to borrow from the federal government's stimulus program.
The funds are technically held by the federal government, not the state, Buchen said. "When we collect them and put them in the fund, they are federal funds. They are remitted to us as we pay out."
Buchen said the taxable wage base was raised in a three-step process at a time when the state didn't owe the federal government a dime. "But we could see the system wasn't generating enough money to cover for any kind of crisis," he said.
That crisis arrived in the form of high unemployment and an economy that was stopped nearly dead in its tracks. As a result, the Legislature agreed to raise the taxable wage base to generate more revenue.
ProPublica reported that employers in 36 states faced unemployment insurance tax increases ranging from a few dollars to nearly $1,000 per worker in 2010, and six states have taken steps to cut back or freeze benefits.
Buchen said the advisory council is watching how the federal government is going to act to get its money back. President Barack Obama is considering placing a freeze on interest owed on the money, Buchen said.
"We are looking at ways to restore solvency in the program," Buchen said.
One option, he said, is for the state to sell bonds and pay the federal government back. No decision has been made on which way to go.
Bill Smith, state director of the Wisconsin Federation of Independent Businesses, said the advisory council will make a recommendation on how best to proceed.
"We will have to examine the benefit levels and tax structure," Smith said. "It might be a change in the tax structure, or it could be changes in benefits that would make it harder for workers to qualify."
Added Smith: "We can't continue to borrow this money. It has to be paid back."
Buchen agreed. "Federal unemployment taxes will go up to pay it off if the state doesn't do anything," Buchen said.
Smith's group has 12,000 members in Wisconsin. Small businesses, he said, are very concerned about what may happen next.
"This is a tax on payroll. And from a small-business perspective, we pay it whether we are profitable or not," Smith said.
http://www.jsonline.com/business/118431084.html
State has borrowed $1.56 billion for unemployment benefits
March 22, 2011
It doesn't have an effect on the budget mess in Madison, but Wisconsin has another money problem on its hands.
And it's a big one. In the aftermath of the recession, Wisconsin has borrowed $1.56 billion from the federal government to keep unemployment checks coming, figures from the state Department of Workforce Development show.
The money owed has no impact on Gov. Scott Walker's biennial budget or his efforts to balance the books, according to James Buchen, vice president of government relations for Wisconsin Manufacturers & Commerce, a pro-business group.
Businesses pay into the program through unemployment taxes. In good times, the program has plenty of money for jobless pay. And as the economy improves, businesses that pay into the system could reduce the deficit. But the deficit also could result in changes in contributions or a reduction in unemployment benefits.
"There's a box around this program," said Buchen, a member of a business-labor advisory council that makes recommendations on maintaining the unemployment benefits fund. "That is to say, employers pay for it. Period. End of discussion. There is no state general program revenue. And there is no money that is taken out of it for other purposes."
While the amount owed to the federal government is eye-popping, Wisconsin is not alone. As many as 30 states have run out of unemployment benefits money and have had to borrow from the federal government.
ProPublica, an independent, nonprofit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest, looked at the program nationwide and concluded some states were even worse off. Illinois owes nearly $2.6 billion. California, the biggest state in the union in terms of population, owes nearly $10 billion.
In Wisconsin, employers pay jobless taxes on each employee's wages up to the taxable wage base. The taxable wage base was $12,000 for 2010 but was increased to $13,000 for 2011 and 2012. It will be $14,000 in 2013.
In good economic times, the fund was in good shape. But when the Great Recession hit, people were laid off and sought unemployment benefits. The crush of those applications sapped the state's unemployment fund reserves, forcing the state to borrow from the federal government's stimulus program.
The funds are technically held by the federal government, not the state, Buchen said. "When we collect them and put them in the fund, they are federal funds. They are remitted to us as we pay out."
Buchen said the taxable wage base was raised in a three-step process at a time when the state didn't owe the federal government a dime. "But we could see the system wasn't generating enough money to cover for any kind of crisis," he said.
That crisis arrived in the form of high unemployment and an economy that was stopped nearly dead in its tracks. As a result, the Legislature agreed to raise the taxable wage base to generate more revenue.
ProPublica reported that employers in 36 states faced unemployment insurance tax increases ranging from a few dollars to nearly $1,000 per worker in 2010, and six states have taken steps to cut back or freeze benefits.
Buchen said the advisory council is watching how the federal government is going to act to get its money back. President Barack Obama is considering placing a freeze on interest owed on the money, Buchen said.
"We are looking at ways to restore solvency in the program," Buchen said.
One option, he said, is for the state to sell bonds and pay the federal government back. No decision has been made on which way to go.
Bill Smith, state director of the Wisconsin Federation of Independent Businesses, said the advisory council will make a recommendation on how best to proceed.
"We will have to examine the benefit levels and tax structure," Smith said. "It might be a change in the tax structure, or it could be changes in benefits that would make it harder for workers to qualify."
Added Smith: "We can't continue to borrow this money. It has to be paid back."
Buchen agreed. "Federal unemployment taxes will go up to pay it off if the state doesn't do anything," Buchen said.
Smith's group has 12,000 members in Wisconsin. Small businesses, he said, are very concerned about what may happen next.
"This is a tax on payroll. And from a small-business perspective, we pay it whether we are profitable or not," Smith said.
http://www.jsonline.com/business/118431084.html
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
You really need to stop this because it doesn't make you look very bright.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
cr8f
What is your deal? Where do you stand? What profession are you in?
Quit stalling, let the law take effect and allow the districts to have more of a say in where their money goes. I am a teacher who has not been able to get a job in part due to what the Union has set in place. They want to lay teachers off instead of making some concessions. Down with the union. Now, go spend some time doing whatever it is you do.
What is your deal? Where do you stand? What profession are you in?
Quit stalling, let the law take effect and allow the districts to have more of a say in where their money goes. I am a teacher who has not been able to get a job in part due to what the Union has set in place. They want to lay teachers off instead of making some concessions. Down with the union. Now, go spend some time doing whatever it is you do.
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
I am not sure if he is bright enough to hold down a job.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I didn't think I'd ever get to the point, but cr8f has killed this thread. I can't be bothered anymore.
cr8f
Footballguy
I killed it by posting news stories? Right.
A little more on the cancellation by the wind power group.
The executive director of a statewide renewable energy group is blasting Gov. Walker and the Legislature after a Chicago-based wind developer dropped plans to install up to 100 wind turbines in southern Brown County.
Invenergy LLC told the Public Service Commission Monday it was canceling its 150-megawatt Ledge Wind energy center because of the uncertain regulatory climate here.
The decision came a month after Walker proposed making it more difficult to site wind turbines in Wisconsin and a legislative committee prevented new statewide wind rules from taking effect.
"Invenergy's cancellation of its Ledge Wind project should not come as a surprise," said Michael Vickerman, executive director of RENEW Wisconsin in a statement. "It should be expected with a political leadership that treats windpower as a pariah energy source. Until the day the Governor and the Legislature put aside their ideological blinders and recognize the benefits that come with developing a clean, locally available and inexhaustible energy source, Wisconsin will remain a very unappetizing place to pursue utility-scale wind projects."
In a March 21 letter to the PSC, Invenergy says there were too many obstacles to proceed with the project. The company already operates the 86-turbine Forward Energy Center installation south of Fond du Lac,
"The absence of regulatory stability has made it imprudent for Invenergy to proceed with investments in a project which unknown regulations might make infeasible to construct," the company told the PSC.
The project, according to developers, would have generated $600,000 annually in municipal revenues to Brown County and four host townships and more than $600,000 annually to host landowners and their neighbors.
According to Boldt Construction, installing one turbine requires 1,325 hours of labor. A 100-turbine project would support a payroll of over $10 million.
Vickerman says the future of wind energy here is now in doubt. Wisconsin isn't a top 10 wind state but has suitable conditions and enough population density to make it a viable utility scale electricity source.
"The regulatory environment for permitting wind energy systems in Wisconsin is deteriorating rapidly," says Vickerman. "The rollback started with Governor Walker's proposal to impose onerous and unworkable setback requirements on wind turbines, and continues with the Legislature's assault on the PSC's wind siting rule."
The new PSC rules were to take effect March 1. They were considered a compromise between wind developers and rural property owners concerned over the impact.
A little more on the cancellation by the wind power group.
The executive director of a statewide renewable energy group is blasting Gov. Walker and the Legislature after a Chicago-based wind developer dropped plans to install up to 100 wind turbines in southern Brown County.
Invenergy LLC told the Public Service Commission Monday it was canceling its 150-megawatt Ledge Wind energy center because of the uncertain regulatory climate here.
The decision came a month after Walker proposed making it more difficult to site wind turbines in Wisconsin and a legislative committee prevented new statewide wind rules from taking effect.
"Invenergy's cancellation of its Ledge Wind project should not come as a surprise," said Michael Vickerman, executive director of RENEW Wisconsin in a statement. "It should be expected with a political leadership that treats windpower as a pariah energy source. Until the day the Governor and the Legislature put aside their ideological blinders and recognize the benefits that come with developing a clean, locally available and inexhaustible energy source, Wisconsin will remain a very unappetizing place to pursue utility-scale wind projects."
In a March 21 letter to the PSC, Invenergy says there were too many obstacles to proceed with the project. The company already operates the 86-turbine Forward Energy Center installation south of Fond du Lac,
"The absence of regulatory stability has made it imprudent for Invenergy to proceed with investments in a project which unknown regulations might make infeasible to construct," the company told the PSC.
The project, according to developers, would have generated $600,000 annually in municipal revenues to Brown County and four host townships and more than $600,000 annually to host landowners and their neighbors.
According to Boldt Construction, installing one turbine requires 1,325 hours of labor. A 100-turbine project would support a payroll of over $10 million.
Vickerman says the future of wind energy here is now in doubt. Wisconsin isn't a top 10 wind state but has suitable conditions and enough population density to make it a viable utility scale electricity source.
"The regulatory environment for permitting wind energy systems in Wisconsin is deteriorating rapidly," says Vickerman. "The rollback started with Governor Walker's proposal to impose onerous and unworkable setback requirements on wind turbines, and continues with the Legislature's assault on the PSC's wind siting rule."
The new PSC rules were to take effect March 1. They were considered a compromise between wind developers and rural property owners concerned over the impact.
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
You must have forgot about blogs, editorials, and other items that aren't news stories or have anything to do with the state budget battle.And you posted these pathetic news stories in this thread...
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Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Eric Stratton
Footballguy
I am getting more and more convinced cr8f has some type of mental disability. Seriously.
So the people in the area did not want the farms. Kind of a different spin than what the rest of the article suggests.
cr8f
Footballguy
You're right it could be. All the details aren't out yet, but scares many around here though is giving one person the power to make these changes himself..
On to why they didn't just write a new bill or pass the original bill.
Occasionally Greta Van Susteren earns her keep, at least as it pertains to legal issues. She interviewed Wisconsin GOP Leader Scott Fitzgerald and grilled him on why he's persisting with a court action when he could simply give 24-hour notice and call a vote.
I have long thought the reason for the cramdown of the vote on this wasn't because of Democrats, but because of Republicans. I think their unity was fracturing and with each passing day, public pressure and disapproval was growing to the point where at least three Republican Senators were in danger of defection.
Fitzgerald seems to think so too. After being pressed by Greta, who quite reasonably points out that all he'd have to do is comply with the 24-hour notice requirements to get his law passed and published even as the old one "meanders in the courts", he says this:
Greta, you know that the legislature is always very tentative, and you may have the votes on one day and then you don't on the next.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Mario Kart
Footballguy
China would still be building them.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Yep.cr8f - your refusal/inability to participate in discussions or answer questions is what makes you a joke. Numerous times you post something that makes no sense with what you're clearly trying to argue.Despite you calling me a right winger, I'm not. I'm an indecisive voter who flips to both sides depending on the super moon. I enjoy most political threads as it gives me a chance to learn. Andy/Ivan are very level headed conservatives. NCCommish is a smart liberal. They all bring great conversations and arguments. As a result, I enjoy reading most of their posts.What do you bring? The only people you're "convincing" are people who are already deep in your corner. For fence sitters such as myself, you do nothing but help drive me to the other side. This board needs passionate, reasonable, and open minded posters. It's what makes this site so great. You have the passion. Please take a step back and work on improving the other parts.'Yankee23Fan said:
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Why Walker Did It
I won't post it here as it is a long article but it is a good read as to why Walker did it and how we got here.
I won't post it here as it is a long article but it is a good read as to why Walker did it and how we got here.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
I think they're working on it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Why do you say that? To me they are expanding the role of the federal and state government in education.
Saints-Man
Footballguy
Wow.
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
It's now a law!
Well it will be tomorrow morning, but for how long? Probably not long as I'm sure there will be an injunction ordered by one of the liberal Madison Judges. Why do Liberals think they are above the law?
Well it will be tomorrow morning, but for how long? Probably not long as I'm sure there will be an injunction ordered by one of the liberal Madison Judges. Why do Liberals think they are above the law?
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Getting an injunction is going with the law. Not acting above it.
