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Sell me on Frank Gore (1 Viewer)
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PosterNutBag
Footballguy
You think Gore will be there at 7? He goes at 5 or 6 in most drafts. He is a solid pick at #7.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
He's pretty good. 
He shouldn't still be there at 7, but if he is:
Hes a special talent, who is only 27 yrs old.
Hes one of the few RBs in the league that will stay on the field for 3 downs and isnt in a RBBC.
Hes likely to flirt with 350-375 touches.
Hes the 49ers GL back.
The 49ers look poised to win 9-10 games, and this will likely be the best squad that Gore has played on in his career.
The 49ers offense will be heavily run focused, as they are ditching the spread they used last year.
They have a young, athletic OL that features alot of run-blocking talent.
Hes been durable (at least 14 games played in every year of his career).
Should post something around 1700-1800 total yards and 12+ TDs.
Hes a special talent, who is only 27 yrs old.
Hes one of the few RBs in the league that will stay on the field for 3 downs and isnt in a RBBC.
Hes likely to flirt with 350-375 touches.
Hes the 49ers GL back.
The 49ers look poised to win 9-10 games, and this will likely be the best squad that Gore has played on in his career.
The 49ers offense will be heavily run focused, as they are ditching the spread they used last year.
They have a young, athletic OL that features alot of run-blocking talent.
Hes been durable (at least 14 games played in every year of his career).
Should post something around 1700-1800 total yards and 12+ TDs.
Abstract
Footballguy
PosterNutBag
Footballguy
He also has one of the easiest schedules of the top RBs
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
He finished 4th last year in ppg at 16.5, behind CJ, ADP and MJD, and ahead of Ray Rice. He may miss a few games, but the guy is a difference maker for your team.
To me he's the last of the big RBs this year. After him, I'd start looking at QBs and WRs.
To me he's the last of the big RBs this year. After him, I'd start looking at QBs and WRs.
raidersfan
Footballguy
I'm debating taking him over ADP in a ppr league at 3 (Rice is a keeper). At 7 he's a no brainer.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Anthony Dixon, an unspectacular rookie rb out of Miss St., is leading the league in rushing during the preseason. Gore, who is light years better than Dixon, will be running behind the same line in the regular season. Draw your own conclusions.
PosterNutBag
Footballguy
That's a good point.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Will Turner be gone?
PosterNutBag
Footballguy
I think it's closer than people think and I don't own either of these players on any team at this point. If MacGahee gets traded then Rice seems like the wise choice. I think the TD vulture factor could sway some people to Gore, though.
Todem
Footballguy
Gore is a true workhorse who can hit homeruns in both the running game and passing game. Non PPR? For sure I go with him if he fell there....but if Turner is there I would be leaning that way. I doubt Turner will be there though in non PPR. However if Michael Turner and Frank Gore are there your playing with some weak owners IMO.
This is all good. Only disagree with his touches. I think 320 is within reach if he plays 16 games. Realistically, I expect around 280-300.
PosterNutBag
Footballguy
If a non-RB is taken in the first 6 picks, you are pretty much guaranteed to see either Gore or Turner in a non-PPR league.I should add that Turner has better odds of being there at #7 than Gore does.
jchapman70
Footballguy
Everyone needs to remember that over his 5 years he has averaged only 233 carries per season. The decline has been very obvious over the past 4 years....almost 100 carries less than in 2006. I like Frank, but probably not taking him in the first round in ANY league. Play it safe.
Here is the link:
http://www.nfl.com/players/frankgore/profile?id=GOR411171
In 2006 he carried the ball 312 times
In 2007 he carried the ball 260 times
In 2008 he carried the ball 240 times
In 2009 he carried the ball 229 times
Here is the link:
http://www.nfl.com/players/frankgore/profile?id=GOR411171
In 2006 he carried the ball 312 times
In 2007 he carried the ball 260 times
In 2008 he carried the ball 240 times
In 2009 he carried the ball 229 times
Todem
Footballguy
Bottom line where did he finish ranked all those years you just posted in PPR and non PPR.
It's all about points.
PosterNutBag
Footballguy
The 49ers are a much better team now than they were in any of those years. They won't be playing from behind quite as often and they will be running the ball more just b/c they are improved and will likely have the lead in more games. That seems like a safe assumption to me barring some injury that has not yet happened on their offense. My guess is that he gets a number of carried somewhere b/w his 2006 & 2007 totals and he should be good for at least 40 receptions.
First all you have to do is look at his numbers the last few years and now he should have an improved passing game and Oline. You also have to factor in that your playing in a league with people who don't play much if Gore is there at 7 so you have a much easier chance of winning no matter who you take
You're comparing 16 games to 14 games. His touches per games have fallen from 23 to 20 but only from 21 to 20 since 2007. He seems as certain as anyone to get 20+ touches per game which is really all you can ask for...
jchapman70
Footballguy
I would also add that the reason he has only played or at least started in 14 of 16 games is that he is injury prone albeit to a smaller extent.....I think the numbers really do show that he has been hurt a little more each year. Personally I would probably rather have Steven Jackson and he is slipping in drafts this year.
Todem
Footballguy
Good luck with that. Talk about injury prone. Off season back surgery....no thanks not in the first 2 rounds in my book.
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Honestly now. If you need to be "sold" on Frank Gore...it's time for a new hobby.
jchapman70
Footballguy
I'm just saying if you draft Gore be ready for some disappointment. I think his body and the numbers are showing this. If you want my honest opinion I would take RAY RICE over anyone this year at the RB position.
Right but at 7 i dont' have luxury of drafting Rice
Banger
Footballguy
It's because you're overthinking it. If you don't want him don't take him but he could finish as a top 2-3 back this year. He's on a team with a running philosophy, improved line, improved weapons, strong defense, cake schedule and he's the 3 down workhorse back.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Gore is going to have a monster year. If you get him at 7 
The_Wolfman
Footballguy
All of the above, plus he has a very decent playoff schedule; Seattle, @SD, @STL. That Week 16 matchup at St. Louis could very well be instrumental in bringing home the title for his owners. Only real downside is he tends to get nicked up every year so count on him missing a couple games due to injury.
FWIW, he fell to me at #6 in my main league and I didn't think twice about taking him after the other top RBs went 1-5.
FWIW, he fell to me at #6 in my main league and I didn't think twice about taking him after the other top RBs went 1-5.
Banger
Footballguy
and this year the stars seem to be aligning with the schedule, line, defense and talent on offense.
TeamSnooki
Footballguy
I like Gore 5th or 6th. He's above all the QBs and above Andre in a non-PPR.
Gore went 10th in my money league. I picked 11th.
Then again, in a Miami based free league someone picked him #1.
Gore went 10th in my money league. I picked 11th.
Then again, in a Miami based free league someone picked him #1.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne said:
It's like selling you on water. Or cleavage.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Or more likely it's a league with an uncommon scoring system, either heavy TD, 6 pt pass TD, or some other variant.I think being in the 7 spot is a great place to be. You can have your choice of a top (likely THE top) WR, can benefit if a RB slips, or even go QB in leagues that favor them. Specifically for Gore, there's nothing I or anyone else can say to make you sold on him. You either like him or you don't. I lean toward Turner in a heavy TD league, or Gore in a standard/performance non-PPR league, or Rice in a PPR league as the #3 RB. Depending on your scoring system, you can pick your favorite or go with a different position.Todem said:
The Jerk
Footballguy
The one bit of advice that works for every draft, but seriously, it's good advice. Don't make your mind up too far in advance. However, you might sketch out contingency draft plans based on the different starting options. For me at least, this helps me understand the deeper impact of my early round choices.Each different strategy requires appropriate responses in the mid-to-later rounds. Knowing in advance which strategies are preferred can/will influence your early round choices. And if it turns out that all of the various approaches can work, sketching them out in advance let you know HOW to make them work as the draft unfolds, rather than flying totally by the seat of your pants.
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Blind we are, if the huge year for Gore we could not see.
Fantaholic
Footballguy
Here's the sales pitch: If he stays healthy this whole season, he challenges CJ3 for the overall points title this year. How's that!
two_dollars
Footballguy
Sat at 1.06 in PPR expecting to take Gore, watched the big 4 go off the board, then expected Andre Johnson to be called next.. but suprise.. the guy went Turner. So I am siting there debatng AJ and Gore, and since it's a start 3wr league with no flex, I decided on AJ. However to this day I am still wondering if I made the right call. I am VERY high on Gore this year.
Jayrod
Footballguy
I'd like to draft Gore @ 1.07 while pouring water on cleavage.I think we can all agree with that.Andy Dufresne said:It's like selling you on water. Or cleavage.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
I want to have Frank Gore's childrens
womb
Footballguy
I agree with Gore supporters on talent & age. Also which top RB (including CJ, MJD, Rice & AP) has this cake of a schedule?
Week 1 @ Seattle
Week 2 New Orleans
Week 3 @ Kansas City
Week 4 @ Atlanta
Week 5 Philadelphia
Week 6 Oakland
Week 7 @ Carolina
Week 8 Denver
Week 9 BYE
Week 10 St. Louis
Week 11 Tampa Bay
Week 12 @ Arizona
Week 13 @ Green Bay
Week 14 Seattle
Week 15 @ San Diego
Week 16 @ St. Louis
Week 17 Arizona
Week 1 @ Seattle
Week 2 New Orleans
Week 3 @ Kansas City
Week 4 @ Atlanta
Week 5 Philadelphia
Week 6 Oakland
Week 7 @ Carolina
Week 8 Denver
Week 9 BYE
Week 10 St. Louis
Week 11 Tampa Bay
Week 12 @ Arizona
Week 13 @ Green Bay
Week 14 Seattle
Week 15 @ San Diego
Week 16 @ St. Louis
Week 17 Arizona
I took Rice at 3 in non-ppr whose schedule is not as good (although not bad either), but I think you might be right. Gore might have been the better choice. Less vultures, higher chance of TD's, easier schedule, lesser chance of him being rested down the stretch. Wish I had seen this thread prior to my draft, actually.
Max Maximus
Footballguy
SF historically always had "easy" schedule (same for SEA as well).
Check out his game log from 2009,
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7241/g...KOJmBiweaj.uLYF
Also, keep in mind that SF started throwing the ball a lot towards the end of the season
P.S. Strength of Schedule for 2010 - http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/strength...e&sortby=RB
Check out his game log from 2009,
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7241/g...KOJmBiweaj.uLYF
Also, keep in mind that SF started throwing the ball a lot towards the end of the season
P.S. Strength of Schedule for 2010 - http://www.fftoolbox.com/football/strength...e&sortby=RB
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