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Stick a fork in Cruz (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter cobalt_27
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
U must be a hopeful nicks owner
Area51Inhabitant
Footballguy
Or a frustrated Cruz owner. I'm not thrilled with Cruz tonight having started him myself but it's way too soon to hit the panic button.
phrozen
Footballguy
already have my waiver claim queued up
Phenix
Footballguy
or just 6
tombonneau
Footballguy
I own him in one and would buy him in others. Still looks like the wr1 on that team. Drops were unfortunate but they happen. He won't drop 3 passes every game. Still netted me 8.8 in .5 ppr
Dought Man
Footballguy
Queue the PPR owners.. "I'll take that performance every week in PPR!"
Papa Georgio
Footballguy
I'll take those numbers every week in PPR!!1!
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Other.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
Lame Cowboys fan
footballnerd
Footballguy
please drop him. please drop him
mcintyre1
Footballguy
You mean the people that play real fantasy football?
gregjcross
Footballguy
The solid part was the number of targets, and he gets open. Rest, like his hands, pretty weak.
Badgers Fan
Footballguy
The 3 drops are terrible. He had somewhat of an issue with drops last year. However, I don't think one game is a reason to go nuts. From what I recall, he had 10 or 11 targets. Eli only threw 32 times (under average for him) so the high targets weren't a result of a ton of passes. I think this may be a good chance to pry Cruz away from a nervous owner. Assuming the drops don't become as present as they were tonight, he should be looking at a very fine ppr season.
tombonneau
Footballguy
As a Cruz owner who watched the game I would not be looking to sell. I can't imagine many would. It's not like Manning had a 400 yd game with Nicks Hixon and Bennett getting a ton of action and Cruz went 2/23. He wa still the top target. It's called being a wr. Not every game is 8/110/1.
billjohnson
Footballguy
Stick a fork in this thread. 
two_dollars
Footballguy
^^ This. Eli had 219 yards passing. Bennett got the lone TD, on a goal line play which isn't Cruz's specialty anyway. However, Cruz looked fast all night. But, Dallas came to play and did a great job getting pressure and did well in coverage. Grats to Dallas.
This is why PPR is the suck!
the UFFRM
Footballguy
ppr is a fad for people who don't understand fantasy football or better yet football.
the UFFRM
Footballguy
Didn't mean to hijack... ppr snobs just bother me.
On the topic at hand, from my perspective it looked like on the balls he dropped he was just refusing to look the ball into his hands and was already using his eyes on defenders or looking for space prematurely. He knows this and the coaches know this and that will be the end of it I would suppose.
On the topic at hand, from my perspective it looked like on the balls he dropped he was just refusing to look the ball into his hands and was already using his eyes on defenders or looking for space prematurely. He knows this and the coaches know this and that will be the end of it I would suppose.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Standard scoring is for people who like to flip coins to see who ends up with a top 4 pick and if not spend 5 months waiting to give their money to one of those people.'the UFFRM said:'mcintyre1 said:
the spanker
Footballguy
LOLOLOL so true.Standard scoring is for people who like to flip coins to see who ends up with a top 4 pick and if not spend 5 months waiting to give their money to one of those people.'the UFFRM said:'mcintyre1 said:
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Standard scoring is for people who like to flip coins to see who ends up with a top 4 pick and if not spend 5 months waiting to give their money to one of those people.'the UFFRM said:'mcintyre1 said:
sspunisher
Footballguy
The Cowboys have a great D this year. Relax
This has pretty much nothing to do with the 3 drops. I wouldn't worry at all about Cruz if i owned him though. The only way I would be worried is if I expected him perform like he did last year, but i don't think anyone was drafting the dude as a borderline first round pick. He was targeted like crazy and just had a bad game. If a bad game for the dude is 11 points or what not in a ppr that really isn't that bad.
sspunisher
Footballguy
I see your logic but I disagree. He'd see more opportunities to atone for those drops against most other teams in the league. As for directly addressing the drops: WRs who are known for their run after the catch ability are notorious for higher drop rates. T.O, Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Dwayne Bowe, even Nate Burleson and Greg Little fit in that category. It comes with the territory. Similar to how some of the best pass rushers often have a higher number of offsides penalties called against them.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Only if you dont understand fantasy football and refuse to use the Banzai Method.Standard scoring is for people who like to flip coins to see who ends up with a top 4 pick and if not spend 5 months waiting to give their money to one of those people.'the UFFRM said:'mcintyre1 said:
Run It Up
Footballguy
Ok boss. Glad you have that all figured out, enjoy your 16 man roster where only 4 people actually matter. Ill stick to my 20 man rosters where everyone matters and whoever is the most knowledgeable wins everytime, as opposed to the guy that drafted the guy at the top of their list.
Run It Up
Footballguy
There were a lot of no calls on both sides.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Hey mods. Good thread to just delete and place users like this on a ban list of some sort.
Big claim for a title to probably just stir stuff up
Nothing added to the discussion
Has not added anything to the discussion since initial post
All these factors are what are turning a thread that could discuss peoples concern for a WR they took as their #1 into a thread filled with sarcastic jokes and now a tangent about PPR leagues.
Big claim for a title to probably just stir stuff up
Nothing added to the discussion
Has not added anything to the discussion since initial post
All these factors are what are turning a thread that could discuss peoples concern for a WR they took as their #1 into a thread filled with sarcastic jokes and now a tangent about PPR leagues.
Short Corner
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
Not everything is as it seems all the time. You might want to take a deep breath and lighten up a bit.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
I can take and add jokes like everyone else, and I didn't really mean to single you out to be banned or anything, but posts like this are IMO the type of things people seems to be complaining about.Just seems like a meaningless post with not much added to get people to argue.If it were me, these are deleted and people who do this often would be gone.
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
You're wasting users/FBG time by starting crap like this
Shutout
Footballguy
While I agree the initial post is a knee-jerk reaction, I DO think there is something worth discussing here.
I have two concerns coming out of this game:
1) For those people that were stating warning signs about Cruz, a lot of them stem from the idea that Cruz had a lot of "fluky" big-yardage plays last year that padded his stats and those people would not argue that Cruz wasn't any good by a long shot, but they would say, compared to where you have to draft him, its going to be hard for him to match that.
---I think that may have some potential merit. It could be hard for Cruz to not get a lot more attention this year by defenses and it is foreseeable that instead of 8/142/2 games, his line looks a lot more like 6/77/0-1 games. So based on the idea of value compared to where drafted, I can see the concern.
2) The giants appeared VERY much focussed on running last night. They didn't run AT ALL last year. I think they may have actually been the worst team in the league last year. Watching that game last night, there were several instances where I thought "Man, I can't believe the giants have only put up this much offense in the air." Eli's numbers looked pedestrian. And then, at the end, only when the giants got down and started airing it out late in the game, did it feel and look like last year.
---I have some concern that since the giants aren't going to be trailing a lot of games (I would think), that they may run the ball a lot more later and those padded stats might not be available.
I have two concerns coming out of this game:
1) For those people that were stating warning signs about Cruz, a lot of them stem from the idea that Cruz had a lot of "fluky" big-yardage plays last year that padded his stats and those people would not argue that Cruz wasn't any good by a long shot, but they would say, compared to where you have to draft him, its going to be hard for him to match that.
---I think that may have some potential merit. It could be hard for Cruz to not get a lot more attention this year by defenses and it is foreseeable that instead of 8/142/2 games, his line looks a lot more like 6/77/0-1 games. So based on the idea of value compared to where drafted, I can see the concern.
2) The giants appeared VERY much focussed on running last night. They didn't run AT ALL last year. I think they may have actually been the worst team in the league last year. Watching that game last night, there were several instances where I thought "Man, I can't believe the giants have only put up this much offense in the air." Eli's numbers looked pedestrian. And then, at the end, only when the giants got down and started airing it out late in the game, did it feel and look like last year.
---I have some concern that since the giants aren't going to be trailing a lot of games (I would think), that they may run the ball a lot more later and those padded stats might not be available.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Is there anything worse than a bunch of people flexing their muscles and talking trash about their fantasy football league's scoring system?If you're in a ppr league and you like it - fine.If you're in a non ppr league and you like it - fine.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
If there's one thing you don't want on your FF team it's a WR who got 10(?) targets in Week 1.
