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TE Luke Musgrave, GB (1 Viewer)
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Bijan made sense too.
Atlanta had too many other problems
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Sure, but they got a potentially generational player. Top 5 player in the draft, who can help as a receiver - which was a pretty big need.
They had a ton of holes. But you can’t not take Bijan there. Just too good a player.
Mostly I’m defending it because I love his FF upside there. lol
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yeah this draft killed a lot of fantasy value at RB for both the rookies and established players.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I have my doubts about that. Tucker Kraft may be a better TE. You can't ignore the lack of data for Musgrave. I'm not saying that Musgrave won't be "The Guy" eventually, but I'm not sure he will.
TartanLion
Footballguy
It’s been a few months since I watched the tape on him, but I wasn’t impressed at the time and didn’t understand the big fuss I’d heard. Yes, he is tall and athletic but my feeling at the time was his hands weren’t great and he looked quite physically weak for a TE and seemed to easily go down after making a catch. We’ll see. Maybe I need to review again
League Champion
Footballguy
I feel like everyone is sleeping on Musgrave. His college tape is insane, he's a beast. He's 6'6 and runs like a deer. If GB is smart (they're not) they'd line him up everywhere possible. He's a very good run blocker but does need to work on consistent route running. I think we're looking at an upper end TE in 2-3 years, be patient and be happy.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Average Draft pick early-mid 3rd?
Low cost, uncertain return due to Love at QB, Rooke Reed drafted WR,
I can see a dart throw 3rd round pick in TE-P
JohnnyU
Footballguy
They also drafted another TE
Birdie048
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't know who is more likely to offer value.
Tucker Kraft - 6'5" 255 'b drafted 3rd round Pick 15 (South Dakota State) Rookie ADP = range 32-42 (mid 4th round) TE7-9
Luke Musgrave - 6'6" 250 lb drafted 2nd round Pick 11 (Oregon State) Rookie ADP = range 24-28 (early 3rd) TE5-7
@ZWK 2023 Prospects Ranks Musgrave above Kincaid
I don't know enough currently to pick 1 over the other... with so little info, Musgrave is currently TE1 on the GB depth chart FWIW
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Oh, you definitely take Musgrave over Kraft because of the perceived upside, but Kraft isn't chop liver from what I read.
Was listening to a 3 man podcast discuss him a few months ago and someone posed a question to the other two which was that Musgrave played 4 youth sports and asked them to name the 4 sports. Most anyone got was 2, and one is a gimme. See if off top of your head you can do better.
Based on data of 649 FFPC(1.5 TE) rookie drafts I was a little surprised at the disparity between him, Mayer and LaPorta. I personally rank them LaPorta, Mayer and Musgrave so I do have Musgrave last out of the list but I have them in the same tier. All in the top 18 players. Mayer goes 11, Laporta 17th and Musgrave 28th and the difference in players available around rookie 28 is so vast compared to the other two. I did not expect to see that large of a gap.
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Based on data of 649 FFPC(1.5 TE) rookie drafts I was a little surprised at the disparity between him, Mayer and LaPorta. I personally rank them LaPorta, Mayer and Musgrave so I do have Musgrave last out of the list but I have them in the same tier. All in the top 18 players. Mayer goes 11, Laporta 17th and Musgrave 28th and the difference in players available around rookie 28 is so vast compared to the other two. I did not expect to see that large of a gap.
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I don't know what I did wrong but I tried posting the answer hidden as a spoiler.
But you only got 1 right.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Wow!! Never would have guessed #4!!
I drafted a good amount of Musgrave in my rookie drafts and some redrafts so love to hear the good early word. Just got to say the Rotoblurb and/or any talk of him "already" earning first team reps is getting overblown because he really does not have any veteran comp. His comp, other then Kraft who is not participating in OTA's right now, is Deguara who is really more of an H-back and Tyler Davis who has 8 receptions in his 3 year career. There really is no comp on the roster and the only person on this roster that can keep him from being TE1 is Kraft.
I wrapped up 7 TE premium rookie drafts and one of my biggest surprises, relative to where Mayer and Laporta were being drafted, is how low people seemed to be on Musgrave relative to those other two TE's. I thought they were all in the same tier but that was not how people were drafting them. Was it Kraft scaring people off or people just not that high on Musgrave?
I wrapped up 7 TE premium rookie drafts and one of my biggest surprises, relative to where Mayer and Laporta were being drafted, is how low people seemed to be on Musgrave relative to those other two TE's. I thought they were all in the same tier but that was not how people were drafting them. Was it Kraft scaring people off or people just not that high on Musgrave?
Terpman22
Footballguy
Same. I was able to get him and Mayer in 3 of 6 dynasties each. And one league where he didn't even get drafted (I didn't have a 3rd round pick, which is where he was going in rookie drafts, late that is). Felt like a smart guy at the time thinking "ya know the strength of this draft seems to be tight ends and there ain't a whole lot of great ones right now in FF). Wish I had got more shares, he seems like he might make an immediate impact...for rookie tight ends which isn't a big number usually.
socrates
Footballguy
Durability has definitely been an issue, and you have that whole rookie TE thing, but Musgrave looks the part. He is definitely worth a late stash if you have a roster spot.
