Each story coming out of Australia seems to be crazier than the last. And I'm not talking about monster spiders taking over towns. Government lockdowns seem to be increasingly authoritarian and totalitarian. I'll post some updates (with links!) with examples.
As usual you are following right wing propaganda. The governments, both left and right wing are doing what 70-80% of what the population want.
I know its not the most credible news source, but TikTok has some head scratchingly insane video and commentary. Its damn near scary how the gov't has completely locked the citizens down and the police are enforcing such mind boggling rules.
Lockdowns vary in size and scope. They are supported by the vast majority of the populace. Those that hate it are very vocal. Lockdowns are supported by both sides of politics. The two major left wing state governments that held an election during covid were returned with massive majorities.
Queensland - A conservative state, but previous conservative governments effed up big time. Labour has been in power for about 22 of the last 30 years. The Labour gov were expected to be thrown out in a massive defeat....until covid. Only 6 deaths in 18 months and they successfully have held out delta....will happen soon enough. They were returned to power with an increased majority primarily due to their handling of covid
Western Australia - A first time labour government and popular premier has had the hardest stance of any premier. The state has geographical advantages in stopping spread. Its basically a different country with empty land surrounding the city of Perth. The conservative opposition was decimated with minority parties scoring more seats. The labour government has something like 70% of seats. Covid has been rare here.
TakiToki said:
At the moment anyone coming from overseas or interstate during lockdowns has to undergo 14 days mandatory hotel quarantine. This proposal is there to ensure that people can now do home quarantine and is no scary boogeyman. Of course in the hands of the chinese it may be different, but in Australia its to ensure people do quarantine properly.
Max Power said:
How bad is COVID down there?
Good question.
delta ruined the success Australia had in holding it off. The right wing federal government was slow in getting its hands on vaccines and have delegated all responsibility to the states. Other countries were much more forceful in getting vaccines. The biggest state New South Wales, had the most relaxed rules around covid. A right wing government. They currently had 1400+ cases yesterday and 12 deaths. All from an unvaccinated limo driver who was taking a person from the airport to hotel quarantine in June. The state government was slow to lockdown and was a step behind the whole way.
The second biggest state, Victoria has been unlucky. 6 lockdowns. They had australias biggest lockdown last year where it ran rampant in nursing homes, this time they beat delta the first time, but opened up too early. Yesterday they broke 200 cases and had 3 deaths. The left wing government here was very popular, but has been incompetant in many ways...unlike the left wing governments in western australia and queensland who have been successful to date.
South Australia had an outbreak last year and has had the odd case here and there, but have beaten it off every time. The right wing government here is just as strict as its left wing counterparts in qld and W,A.
Tasmania has been relatively free....an island state it had strategic advantages. The right wing government here has also been strict. Successfully
All cases have originated from hotel quarantine breaches. The federal government has been responsible for this and refused better options. The most successful quarantine facility is an isolated place in the northern territory. Other states have wanted to follow this model, but the federal gov has refused. Some states are going their own way now,
quick-hands said:
The crazy thing is that it's supported by the majority of the populace.
Soviet Russia had more freedoms. It's a great time to be a petty dictator. The petty dictatorship of the near future in Australia should stop it here.
You know not of what you talk of. Your emotional post of nonsense doesnt even come close to the reality. People are incredibly free in Australia. The australian population clearly doesnt want covid. Masking is tolerated by over 90% of the populace. Vaccine acceptance is high, but the lack of supply is causing issues. The states are racing to hold off covid before it overwhelms the hospital system. Lockdowns work. People can still do shopping, exercise, go to the park. Social distancing is practised. Hand hygeine is practiced. Masks are worn. The economy has recovered quickly. Is everyone happy, of course not. Some businesses have gone under. Some industries are on their knees. Government financial support has been huge in keeping some afloat.
Sure there are rules that are enforced, but the punishment is relatively minor for infringements. Fines. People who break an ordered quarantine cop the biggest punishment behind those with covid spreading it. Yeah there are those screaming “freedom”, but they are seen as lunatics who destroy any argument they have by going on about bill gates, 5G and other such laughable points.
Something about that data has to be wrong.
No deaths from COVID-19 were recorded in Australia from 28 December 2020 until 13 April 2021. Australia closed it's borders In March and has instituted different levels of lockdowns nationwide. Cases are going up even with lockdowns. So we know Delta beats lockdowns.
Yes. Good post.
Delta can be beaten with short sharp lockdowns. Queensland beat one. Victoria did until they opened up early, NSW dithered and now its out of control. Other states have shut the borders to nsw, but victoria, south australia and qld have all been affected by nsw truck drivers coming in with covid. Vaccines supplies are finally coming in.
In another mistake the federal goverment relied entirely on astra zeneca with pfizer as the backstop. No one wants AZ. Pfizer is now coming in larger supplies and moderna soon will arrive. Hundreds of thousands of people are being vaccinated every day in well run and managed government centres. Australia will reach 80% vaccinated by the end of the year, maybe earlier after starting behind. The vocal minority who wont get vaccinated will be the ones that suffer the most. The key to stop the hospitals being overun, is getting the vaccine into arms before its rampant. Too late for Nsw.
basically australia knows the dam is going to break. They have successfult had enough fingers to plug the breaks. The water is too strong now so they are vaccinating to get people out of the way. Some want to stay at the dam and ignore the reality.