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Think Sam Bradford wished he'd gone pro now? (1 Viewer)
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MCguidance
Footballguy
Really sucks - you really have to feel for a kid that wants to stay in school and be a kid for as long as possible. I used to hate that guys went early, but it makes a lot of sense in a lot of situations.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
You know...you see alot of situations where a kid is projected to go high in January and then come April, their draft stock has gone kablooey. This also happens in reverse. Quinn and Aaron Rodgers were in the running for #1 pick status in April but come draft day slid infamously.
That said, I think there were some significant question marks around Bradford's readiness for the NFL related to his 1) experience 2) size 3) physical tools 4) upbringing in the strict spread. With a guy like Stafford whose arm strength is undeniable, the risks of coming out were less...plus he played in a pro-style offense.
Could Bradford have stayed in that Top 10 range? Potentially. But I think he also sensed that he could fall and as such why not try and increase your chances of becoming a no brainer Top 10 pick?
That said, I think there were some significant question marks around Bradford's readiness for the NFL related to his 1) experience 2) size 3) physical tools 4) upbringing in the strict spread. With a guy like Stafford whose arm strength is undeniable, the risks of coming out were less...plus he played in a pro-style offense.
Could Bradford have stayed in that Top 10 range? Potentially. But I think he also sensed that he could fall and as such why not try and increase your chances of becoming a no brainer Top 10 pick?
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
If early reports are correct, he'll be back before too long. OU's championship hopes are far from dead, their margin of error is just gone.
bcr8f
Footballguy
Were they really though or was it pundits who said that? Or coaches saying so to smokescreen what they really planned.Rodgers is an example I think of a good players that had time to be better. If he had been thrown out as the starter in San Francisco would he be the same player?
Routilla
Footballguy
Disagree. They are done. I can easily see Miami beating them and don't be shocked if Robert Griffin and Baylor stun them in their own stadium the following week. Texas must be licking their chops for the game in Dallas as well.
weasel3515
Footballguy
And everyone said that Florida and Tim Tebow's chances were dead last year after losing to Ole Miss too.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Do you not remember their infamous green room awkward fests? You can call it smoke screen or whatever, but if that's what it was Rodgers/Quinn were smoke screened as well.
He would have been a top 10 pick. Feel free to google.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Bradford stayed because he wasn't going to be a top 10 pick (or they weren't CERTAIN he would be). If the Lions weren't going to take him, he probably would have free falled.
I agree with Plasma.They lost to a top 20 team.
In at least one of the member's BCS formula's it's worse for a team to play a gimme win like ND vs Nevada than for OU to lose to BYU.
SOS is a big deal in BCS
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Team ROFLCOPTERS
Footballguy
Not really a big deal if reports are correct. This will allow his O-Line to work the kinks out. They will compete for a top 10 bowl with the talent they have on that team.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
Feel free to research Andre Woodson. Actually allow me...FF Toolbox Scouting Report 1/4/2008
War Room Scouting Report 1/20/2008
Scout.com - 1st Round Focus 1/14/2008
NFL Draft Countdown has Andre Woodson as the #14 overall pick in their 1/18/2008 Mock Draft
...but thanks for that google tip. I'm going to go google Brian Brohm now...
two_dollars
Footballguy
The saving grace is that this was the first game of the year. They have a chance to right the ship and win out. Voters tend to forget early season games, even losses. If this was the last game of the year they'd be done.
side note: Go Irish!
side note: Go Irish!
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Ozymandias
Footballguy
I checked with the alternative universe, where he did go pro.
Two days before the NFL draft, he was hit by a truck and paralyzed. He recovered, but not to play in the NFL.
He made the right decision.
Two days before the NFL draft, he was hit by a truck and paralyzed. He recovered, but not to play in the NFL.
He made the right decision.
karmarooster
Footballguy
bradford's stock could've easily fallen... what makes him different from Alex Smith? he's a smart, athletic QB who played in a spread offense. there's no guarantee he'll be good in the NFL, but he would've been QB 1a or 1b with stafford, clearly better than sanchez so sure to have been a top 10 pick.
tim_whatley
Footballguy
Are his eyes still crossed? If not, it might have been worth it.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Having Sam on the field was impeding the o-line's progress in some way?
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Sooners can still win the NC, but are wayyy behind the eightball now.
Guaranteed no legit NFL QB comes back for his Senior year after this
Guaranteed no legit NFL QB comes back for his Senior year after this
Routilla
Footballguy
IMO, the real question is why did he and Gresham come back? Surely there was no payoff, right? Both of these guys have already lost NFL money. No matter when they come back and what they do there will be injury questions.
after the last couple of years, notre dame is not a gimme against any one, particularly a D-I team that has been a bowl game recently. at least they played a d-I team, unlike teams like florida, iowa, etc.
as for bradford, he still is enjoying the college life, something i'm sure a lot of us would like.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Nice spin Texas fan. OU is 60-2 at home under Stoops, they aren't losing to Baylor and I think Baylor is pretty good. As far as him not coming out, he's lost nothing and has an insurance policy to boot. If it is the injury that is being reported, an AC Joint strain can be quite minor and will not affect his draft status next year. What might is OU's terrible offensive line which is going to hurt his numbers.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Which is exactly why I and everyone around here were surprised when he announced he was staying.
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Routilla
Footballguy
Thanks DD. I was surprised at how well BYU passed the ball tonight. Even after Sam went down, I figured the DEF would settle it for OU. They simply could not do it. I know it's week 1 and BYU is top 20 etc. but they are in trouble as long as Sam and Gresham are out. They win their next 2 by default but @MIA and home vs BAY are not guarantees unless they are full throttle on offense. If the time of possession continues as it did tonight w/o Sam at QB then OU will drop those games.
T Bell
Footballguy
Big Tom Petty fan, eh?
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
As an OU fan, maybe this will keep him in school next year too!!
Doug Drinen
Moderator
This is correct but probably moot, because the real issue is that they were outplayed even when Bradford was in the game.
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Goat Herders
Footballguy
He should have gone pro, but not because of the injury. He simply isn't that good. Yes, he can make the throws and run an offense but so could Ken Dorsey. He simply isn't all that good without a brick-wall offensive line in front of him.
another QB(and in closing a third)then bringing up 2010
instead of actually looking up the 2009 draft
el-gato-grande
Footballguy
OU is DONE considering Notre Dame is going undefeated and all. 
Kinda snarky, guys.My memory from listening to draft stuff on the Audible podcasts is that Woodson had problems with his mechanics. I'm thinking that would have turned up no matter what year he came out.
And on the question of whether or not Oklahoma is out of the championship race, I say, let's hope so. Do we really need to see them get beat down in the championship game again?
GoldenBear
Footballguy
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
bcr8f
Footballguy
I doubt it.
Why do players just concentrate on rookie contracts.
If they are successful they will be paid. Holt told his agent to take less if he has to but get him signed before camp.
He got paid. They should look long term too. Getting a good start on your career may get them more money in the long run.
Why do players just concentrate on rookie contracts.
If they are successful they will be paid. Holt told his agent to take less if he has to but get him signed before camp.
He got paid. They should look long term too. Getting a good start on your career may get them more money in the long run.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
I think he's pretty good, but how good without Gresham? I don't know. He seemed to be struggling trying to find receivers once his main man went down. I think you have a point, too. It was just a perfect storm last night, so it's hard to tell how much would fall into the "Bradford's just not that good" category, imho.Give any competent qb a great OL and he should look pretty good, and will often look great, imho. Conversely, give even a great qb a bad OL, and he'll usually look pretty pedestrian, imho.
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the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Joe Schad reporting on ESPNews that surgery has not been ruled out as an option for Sam Bradford....and that the docs still don't know the severity/grade of the sprain. It may be a day or two before they do.
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the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
http://www.wapt.com/sports/21120738/detail.html
Reportedly, Sam Bradford flew to Birmingham today to see top sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews tomorrow.
This probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go or he's done for the year, imho. Feel awful for him. He's a great player and seems like a great kid.
Reportedly, Sam Bradford flew to Birmingham today to see top sports surgeon Dr. James Andrews tomorrow.
This probably ends with the doc saying he's good to go or he's done for the year, imho. Feel awful for him. He's a great player and seems like a great kid.
Here's to hoping he's good to go.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Reminds me of a young Chad Pennington. Good..but not great.
Sure about that?
two_dollars
Footballguy
I bet he REALLY wishes he'd gone pro now. This season literally has cost him 10 million or more.
TC
Footballguy
With this recent re-injury, Bradford may now look to playing his 2010 senior season with the Sooners. He certainly enjoys collage life, and a succeesful "next" season could cause him to rebound back into the projected Top-5 draft status. Then, again, everything with the pro draft is a gamble.
Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
Admittedly, I stopped here on the thread, because this is what I came to post. Smith and Rodgers were 1 and 1A; no real winner except for who SF picked. We know the story and Rodgers had time to be groomed, went to a better organization (the ones picking in the 20s usually are), and while Rodgers will be collecting another big time contract, Smith most likely will be out of the league in a couple of years. It is hard to compare people (never really apples to apples), but if you switched the two, who knows whether the story would be the exact opposite. Bradford may be better off ats a 20-30 pick than a top ten (even finacially in the long run). I always thought one of the reasons that Leinert stayed in school is because he did not want to be a Niner...he collected top 10 money, and is in a much better situation to be given an extension (and a chance at that) to be a QB on a good team.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
This is a myth. If he gets surgery and has a good combine and the doctors say he is 100 percent, it cost him nothing.
