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timdraft #4: Movie Category Draft (1 Viewer)
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Val Rannous
Footballguy
Here's a copy of the judging list:
Movies
1. Adultery/sex (John Madden's Lunchbox)
2. Drugs (Tremendous Upside)
3. England (John Madden's Lunchbox)
4. Spies (Tremendous Upside)
5. Nazis (timschochet)
6. New York (Tremendous Upside)
7. Outer Space (Val Rannous)
8. Rock and Roll (Jzilla)
9. Superheroes (Aerial Assault)
10. No idea what this movie is about (Karma Police)
Scenes
1. shocking scene (jwb)
2. Dance scene (tish155)
3. romantic gesture (krista4)
4. shootout (Jzilla)
5. fight scene (John Madden's Lunchbox)
6. gambling scene (Scott Norwood)
7. car chase (jwb)
8. monologue (Tiannamen Tank)
9. courtroom scene (Aerial Assault)
10. classroom scene (AcerFC)
11. shooting a movie scene (Karma Police)
12. sports scene (Charvik)
13. dream sequence (Aerial Assault)
14. scene that scared you as a kid (Val Rannous)
15. long take (Karma Police)
Portayals
1. multiple performances in a movie (Nick Vermeil)
2. best movie parent (timschochet)
3. dramatic actor in a comedic role (Kumerica)
4. best performance by child actor (Jzilla)
5. best portrayal of a real/historical person (BobbyLayne)
Movies
1. Adultery/sex (John Madden's Lunchbox)
2. Drugs (Tremendous Upside)
3. England (John Madden's Lunchbox)
4. Spies (Tremendous Upside)
5. Nazis (timschochet)
6. New York (Tremendous Upside)
7. Outer Space (Val Rannous)
8. Rock and Roll (Jzilla)
9. Superheroes (Aerial Assault)
10. No idea what this movie is about (Karma Police)
Scenes
1. shocking scene (jwb)
2. Dance scene (tish155)
3. romantic gesture (krista4)
4. shootout (Jzilla)
5. fight scene (John Madden's Lunchbox)
6. gambling scene (Scott Norwood)
7. car chase (jwb)
8. monologue (Tiannamen Tank)
9. courtroom scene (Aerial Assault)
10. classroom scene (AcerFC)
11. shooting a movie scene (Karma Police)
12. sports scene (Charvik)
13. dream sequence (Aerial Assault)
14. scene that scared you as a kid (Val Rannous)
15. long take (Karma Police)
Portayals
1. multiple performances in a movie (Nick Vermeil)
2. best movie parent (timschochet)
3. dramatic actor in a comedic role (Kumerica)
4. best performance by child actor (Jzilla)
5. best portrayal of a real/historical person (BobbyLayne)
Val Rannous
Footballguy
And my page 1 data says "Scores after 13 Categories", so I can recover that much easily.
timschochet
Footballguy
Thank you so much for that!
OK. If you are on that list for an uncompleted category, you need to come in here and post when you will be done, and you need to do it by this weekend. Come Monday morning if you have not posted I will open the category up to whoever wants it.
I will have child stars done within 1 weeks time or less.
OK. If you are on that list for an uncompleted category, you need to come in here and post when you will be done, and you need to do it by this weekend. Come Monday morning if you have not posted I will open the category up to whoever wants it.
I will have child stars done within 1 weeks time or less.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
As stated I have Sex/Adultery and Fight scenes to do.
Sex/Adultery is 60% done, but unfortunately I have the long movies such as Dr Zhivago to go. I will watch the remaining movies in their entirity to get a concept of their relation to the category.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Socialism for Dummies
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I've still got 3 to watch in multiple performances. If anyone has seen Cloud Atlas and sunshine perhaps you can help me out. Moon is the other and I have a copy.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I've read the noveal and I've seen the movie. I don't remember which actor/actresses was taken but to be honest none of the performances were particularly noteworthy, except for perhaps Jim Broadbent.
Did you watch The Lizze McGuire Movie yet? Fantastic performance by that Duff girl.
timschochet
Footballguy
DougB has been kind enough to agree to do this.I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
Doug B
Footballguy
To me, this was all that was ever required. Reputational judging gets a bad rap around here
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Word. Does anyone really think I watched all 25 of those superhero movies??To me, this was all that was ever required. Reputational judging gets a bad rap around here
I did, though.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Val Rannous
Footballguy
Nerd.Aerial Assault said:Word. Does anyone really think I watched all 25 of those superhero movies??Doug B said:To me, this was all that was ever required. Reputational judging gets a bad rap around here
I did, though.
(Not that I wouldn't have done the same thing - you grabbed the category I wanted most to judge - but you did a fantastic job so I'm probably happier this way!)
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Spies will be done this weekend
Tiananmen Tank
Footballguy
I'm still writing up Monologues, just been swamped by various things.
krista4
Footballguy
I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
jwb
Footballguy
Tim asked for official word from people.I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
What's open, Tim - I'll do one.
krista4
Footballguy
Yes, I've read the thread.Tim asked for official word from people.I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
What's open, Tim - I'll do one.
My point was that the people above all said they'd be done this past weekend. As for you, I was pointing out that you should be able to get a category today from those that are open. Capisce?
timschochet
Footballguy
OK, based on this, here are the categories now open:
Rock and Roll
No idea what this movie is about
Shootout
gambling scene
Shooting a movie scene
best portray of a real/historical person
JWB, Frosticulus, or anyone else, take any of these you want, as many as you want. First come first served.
jwb
Footballguy
jwb
Footballguy
CapisceYes, I've read the thread.Tim asked for official word from people.I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
What's open, Tim - I'll do one.
(I like how IE10 spellchecks this to "capsize")
Frostillicus
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
CapisceYes, I've read the thread.Tim asked for official word from people.I will complete Dream Sequences by this weekend and Courtroom Scenes within a week after that.
Thanks, Val, for providing the needed activation energy to get this thing going again. And Tim, start a spreadsheet for the scores, my man.
What's open, Tim - I'll do one.
(I like how IE10 spellchecks this to "capsize")
Val Rannous
Footballguy
Since I shot my mouth off I'll jump in and take Gambling Scene.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Dream Sequences are done. Needs polishing. I'm in a bout of malaise due to a work surprise so I'll snap out of that ASAP.
Doug B
Footballguy
Might as well post what you have. I think the prospect of "polishing" the rankings is one of those that just kills judging efforts sometimes.
higgins
Footballguy
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Dude, just stop. I think my judging record in this draft has been okay so far. I wouldn't be too surprised if the Dream Sequences are the next ones to go up. Chill?
Doug B
Footballguy
No vilification or offense intended. I've bailed on judging a category before, and I remember why I did it. Just figured others get faced with the same issue sometimes.
EDIT: Just realized this post can be read as if I think you're bailing. Not the case.
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Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Anyone other than the drafter care to help out with Sunshine in Multiple Characters?
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I see; then I'm sorry for the rolleyes. I will not bail on either of my categories. After writing 30-35 pages in Word on superheroes, I couldn't believe how easy the DS judging was. By polishing, I really just meant adjusting the rankings. And I really have been in quite a funk, now at an end.No vilification or offense intended. I've bailed on judging a category before, and I remember why I did it. Just figured others get faced with the same issue sometimes.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
As an observer, I think it sometimes seems like the judging is more competitive than the drafting itself, and it makes some who volunteered to judge to dread doing it, because they feel they have to write a novel. I don't know how interest is continued in the long gaps between judging.
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Aerial Assault
Footballguy
You may well be right about some people; I don't know. But I wrote a ton about superheroes because I like to write, and it was fun to depart from the usual subject matter of my two blogs. (I wrote long-### posts on Songs About Time and Songs About Songs in the last timdraft for the same reason, and loved it.)
jwb
Footballguy
For some, yea, that's probably so. Can only speak for myself, but I only write one or two line explanations, and I'm comfy doing that - I judge in almost every draft.
jwb
Footballguy
[SIZE=small]Shootout Rankings[/SIZE]
I didn't have this category to start with, and the criteria was fairly simple ("anything goes, realism counts"). But I took realism within the context of the film (sorry, but the awesome Matrix shootout is ranking high). As far as "anything goes", 24 of you took a shootout in the classic sense, and one guy took D-Day... errr, ok. It's either a brilliant 25 pointer, or it's last. Being that 24 of you saw the criteria and still took a "real" shootout, guess which it is.
These are more or less how much I liked them - I comment some on technical merit or dull or whatnot, but don't read too much into it (no "but you said this about the 3 pointer, but your 20 pointer does it too"). Some surprises, but in general terms, the high picks did well.
Not going to break these up into 4 posts - here's the whole ball of wax:
1 point – Opening to Saving Private Ryan
I didn’t make the criteria, but a battle isn’t a shootout in the classic sense.
2 Points – A Fistful of Dollars
I hate to do this to Clint and Sergio, but this is a terrible shootout. I saw this as a kid, and even then was thinking “why not shoot his head, or legs?”
3 points - High Noon
A “classic” old-time western shootout… the problem is, most classic old time western shootouts were terrible. In judging, I try to look back within the context of the time period, but in this case, Hollywood really had a lot to learn. For an old western, I’d have preferred Shane or even Cat Ballou’s short gunfights (sp?)
4 Points – Silence of the Lambs
Not so much a great shootout as it is 3 minutes of listening to Jodi Foster’s heavy breathing. And not in the good way.
5 Points – The Mission
What could have been a really interesting gunfight got ruined by everyone prettymuch “posing” with their guns in classic gunfight positions. Whether they were covering an area or not, it looked a bit silly.
6 Points – Road to Perdition
I agree with the drafter that it’s a beautifully composed scene, in an excellently-filmed movie. But it isn’t a great shootout.
7 Points – The Wild Bunch
I like the movie a lot, but standing alone, besides from being “huge”, this gunfight just doesn’t stand up. The editing is terrible, the sound is poor… it’s a mess, really.
8 Points - McCabe and Mrs. Miller
I get that it’s a more of a tense cat and mouse thing than big shootout, and it works well for what it is. But it’s still fairly dull.
9 Points – The Untouchables stairway shootout
Was this a guilty pleasure pick? I think it was taken pretty high, but in comparison to most of this list, it’s really a silly-looking shootout. Gets some love for cool tommy guns, though.
10 Points – Boondock Saints
Fun and silly. Very silly. But still fun. Did I mention it was silly?
11 Points – Miller’s Crossing
More Tommy guns!! Fun little scene – nothing wrong with an 11 here.
12 Points – Equilibrium
It’s good, but it suffers a bit from being a bit over the top (and not in a good way), and, let’s face it, it also suffers from Matrix comparisons.
13 points – Collateral
It’s tense, and it’s effective. This is where it belongs.
14 points – Matewan
This is based on a true story, but in real life, they probably fired less bullets. Dusty, dirty “the whole town is involved” shootout. I like it.
15 Points - Unforgiven
I like this scene, and if you watch the whole movie, it’s even more powerful. But I’m judging just the gunfight, and while it’s a great scene in a great movie, it could have been edited a lot better. Very sloppy.
16 Points - LA Confidential
Fun shootout scene in a good movie. Can’t say much more about it – just fun to watch.
17 Points – The way of the gun
Does everything well.
18 points – Clear and Present Danger
I really like this scene. Very realistic, gritty, not over the top – just an effective shootout with CIA being ambushed by terrorists.
19 Points – Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Yes, they hold off the entire Bolivian army, but it’s really a lot of fun watching them do it.
20 Points – Open Range (my pick)
I love this gunfight, especially the way it starts, where Costner just wipes out the dude who was setup to be the invincible opposite. Only problem I have with it is it goes on and on. But it’s still probably the most realistic western gunfight ever.
21 Points – The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Miles better than the other Spaghetti Western picked. Classic scene by Sergio Leone
22 Points – Desperado Bar Scene
What a fun scene this is. Very underrated series of movies
23 Points – Scarface
Classic scene spawns an iconic line.
24 Points - The Matrix
This series of films got really, really silly, and somewhat makes us forget how ridiculously cool The Matrix really was. This was an incredible gunfight / action sequence, and worthy of this slot.
25 Points – Heat
Easily the best gunfight ever put to film. Excellent in every way. Small note – the drive-in gunfight would have finished pretty high too.
I didn't have this category to start with, and the criteria was fairly simple ("anything goes, realism counts"). But I took realism within the context of the film (sorry, but the awesome Matrix shootout is ranking high). As far as "anything goes", 24 of you took a shootout in the classic sense, and one guy took D-Day... errr, ok. It's either a brilliant 25 pointer, or it's last. Being that 24 of you saw the criteria and still took a "real" shootout, guess which it is.
These are more or less how much I liked them - I comment some on technical merit or dull or whatnot, but don't read too much into it (no "but you said this about the 3 pointer, but your 20 pointer does it too"). Some surprises, but in general terms, the high picks did well.
Not going to break these up into 4 posts - here's the whole ball of wax:
1 point – Opening to Saving Private Ryan
I didn’t make the criteria, but a battle isn’t a shootout in the classic sense.
2 Points – A Fistful of Dollars
I hate to do this to Clint and Sergio, but this is a terrible shootout. I saw this as a kid, and even then was thinking “why not shoot his head, or legs?”
3 points - High Noon
A “classic” old-time western shootout… the problem is, most classic old time western shootouts were terrible. In judging, I try to look back within the context of the time period, but in this case, Hollywood really had a lot to learn. For an old western, I’d have preferred Shane or even Cat Ballou’s short gunfights (sp?)
4 Points – Silence of the Lambs
Not so much a great shootout as it is 3 minutes of listening to Jodi Foster’s heavy breathing. And not in the good way.
5 Points – The Mission
What could have been a really interesting gunfight got ruined by everyone prettymuch “posing” with their guns in classic gunfight positions. Whether they were covering an area or not, it looked a bit silly.
6 Points – Road to Perdition
I agree with the drafter that it’s a beautifully composed scene, in an excellently-filmed movie. But it isn’t a great shootout.
7 Points – The Wild Bunch
I like the movie a lot, but standing alone, besides from being “huge”, this gunfight just doesn’t stand up. The editing is terrible, the sound is poor… it’s a mess, really.
8 Points - McCabe and Mrs. Miller
I get that it’s a more of a tense cat and mouse thing than big shootout, and it works well for what it is. But it’s still fairly dull.
9 Points – The Untouchables stairway shootout
Was this a guilty pleasure pick? I think it was taken pretty high, but in comparison to most of this list, it’s really a silly-looking shootout. Gets some love for cool tommy guns, though.
10 Points – Boondock Saints
Fun and silly. Very silly. But still fun. Did I mention it was silly?
11 Points – Miller’s Crossing
More Tommy guns!! Fun little scene – nothing wrong with an 11 here.
12 Points – Equilibrium
It’s good, but it suffers a bit from being a bit over the top (and not in a good way), and, let’s face it, it also suffers from Matrix comparisons.
13 points – Collateral
It’s tense, and it’s effective. This is where it belongs.
14 points – Matewan
This is based on a true story, but in real life, they probably fired less bullets. Dusty, dirty “the whole town is involved” shootout. I like it.
15 Points - Unforgiven
I like this scene, and if you watch the whole movie, it’s even more powerful. But I’m judging just the gunfight, and while it’s a great scene in a great movie, it could have been edited a lot better. Very sloppy.
16 Points - LA Confidential
Fun shootout scene in a good movie. Can’t say much more about it – just fun to watch.
17 Points – The way of the gun
Does everything well.
18 points – Clear and Present Danger
I really like this scene. Very realistic, gritty, not over the top – just an effective shootout with CIA being ambushed by terrorists.
19 Points – Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Yes, they hold off the entire Bolivian army, but it’s really a lot of fun watching them do it.
20 Points – Open Range (my pick)
I love this gunfight, especially the way it starts, where Costner just wipes out the dude who was setup to be the invincible opposite. Only problem I have with it is it goes on and on. But it’s still probably the most realistic western gunfight ever.
21 Points – The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Miles better than the other Spaghetti Western picked. Classic scene by Sergio Leone
22 Points – Desperado Bar Scene
What a fun scene this is. Very underrated series of movies
23 Points – Scarface
Classic scene spawns an iconic line.
24 Points - The Matrix
This series of films got really, really silly, and somewhat makes us forget how ridiculously cool The Matrix really was. This was an incredible gunfight / action sequence, and worthy of this slot.
25 Points – Heat
Easily the best gunfight ever put to film. Excellent in every way. Small note – the drive-in gunfight would have finished pretty high too.
jwb
Footballguy
[SIZE=small]Final Shootout Rankings:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]1 point – Opening to Saving Private Ryan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]2 Points – A Fistful of Dollars[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]3 points - High Noon[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]4 Points – Silence of the Lambs[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]5 Points – The Mission[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]6 Points – Road to Perdition[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]7 Points – The Wild Bunch[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]8 Points - McCabe and Mrs. Miller[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]9 Points – The Untouchables stairway shootout[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]10 Points – Boondock Saints[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]11 Points – Miller’s Crossing[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]12 Points – Equilibrium[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]13 points – Collateral[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]14 points – Matewan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]15 Points - Unforgiven[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]16 Points - LA Confidential[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]17 Points – The way of the gun [/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]18 points – Clear and Present Danger[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]19 Points – Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]20 Points – Open Range (my pick) [/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]21 Points – The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]22 Points – Desperado Bar Scene[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]23 Points – Scarface[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]24 Points - The Matrix[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]25 Points – Heat[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]1 point – Opening to Saving Private Ryan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]2 Points – A Fistful of Dollars[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]3 points - High Noon[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]4 Points – Silence of the Lambs[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]5 Points – The Mission[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]6 Points – Road to Perdition[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]7 Points – The Wild Bunch[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]8 Points - McCabe and Mrs. Miller[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]9 Points – The Untouchables stairway shootout[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]10 Points – Boondock Saints[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]11 Points – Miller’s Crossing[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]12 Points – Equilibrium[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]13 points – Collateral[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]14 points – Matewan[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]15 Points - Unforgiven[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]16 Points - LA Confidential[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]17 Points – The way of the gun [/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]18 points – Clear and Present Danger[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]19 Points – Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]20 Points – Open Range (my pick) [/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]21 Points – The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]22 Points – Desperado Bar Scene[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]23 Points – Scarface[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]24 Points - The Matrix[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]25 Points – Heat[/SIZE]
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
jwb
Footballguy
Funny - at first glance at the picks, I thought the Untouchables would be higher - a lot higher. But it's been years since I've seen it, and it's just... it's cheesy, really.
timschochet
Footballguy
Good job, jwb! Hopefully Doug B is keeping score.
I know I promised child stars before the end of the week, but I have been completely tied up, and I am going out of town all next week, so I won't get to it until the week after next. I apologize.
If there are still unclaimed categories left at that point I suppose I will take them as well.
I know I promised child stars before the end of the week, but I have been completely tied up, and I am going out of town all next week, so I won't get to it until the week after next. I apologize.
If there are still unclaimed categories left at that point I suppose I will take them as well.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
For someone who is completely tied up, you sure do a lot of posting in other threads.
drfeelgood
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
[SIZE=medium]DREAM SEQUENCES[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Boring Prologue[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]This was a difficult category to judge. Most drafters did a really good job, as pretty much all of the “iconic” dream sequences that I thought of at the “inception” (ha hee) of the draft (motion made and granted that I am not anyone’s idea of a film expert) were taken. There was a good mix of the serious, the scary, the silly, and the snob. No, not really, on the last one. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I thought about ironically imposing some sort of goofily rigid mathematical grading system on a category featuring film excerpts that, by definition, defy rules and convention, but for some reason decided against this deathlessly hilarious stab at meta-humor. Remember, the submissions being judged are scenes. You might notice a film discussed as a whole here and there, but no one should be too shocked if a consensus classic of a film ends up with a not-so-dreamy ranking. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Knowing I was judging this category from a fairly early stage, I saved each YT clip into a separate file as the picks were made, so I didn’t have to review them from scratch. This handily prevented me from knowing who picked what, but it also means that if you had some big epiphany and went back and changed which scene you picked on page 76 or something, I might not have caught it - - but I did try to pay attention to ensure that wouldn’t happen. And now, let’s count backwards from 99, numerically sort a few sheep, and get to the sequences of our dreams. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Boring Prologue[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]This was a difficult category to judge. Most drafters did a really good job, as pretty much all of the “iconic” dream sequences that I thought of at the “inception” (ha hee) of the draft (motion made and granted that I am not anyone’s idea of a film expert) were taken. There was a good mix of the serious, the scary, the silly, and the snob. No, not really, on the last one. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]I thought about ironically imposing some sort of goofily rigid mathematical grading system on a category featuring film excerpts that, by definition, defy rules and convention, but for some reason decided against this deathlessly hilarious stab at meta-humor. Remember, the submissions being judged are scenes. You might notice a film discussed as a whole here and there, but no one should be too shocked if a consensus classic of a film ends up with a not-so-dreamy ranking. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Knowing I was judging this category from a fairly early stage, I saved each YT clip into a separate file as the picks were made, so I didn’t have to review them from scratch. This handily prevented me from knowing who picked what, but it also means that if you had some big epiphany and went back and changed which scene you picked on page 76 or something, I might not have caught it - - but I did try to pay attention to ensure that wouldn’t happen. And now, let’s count backwards from 99, numerically sort a few sheep, and get to the sequences of our dreams. [/SIZE]
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Oh please, oh please, oh please....
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
[SIZE=medium]25. Waking Life (2001)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] There are some interesting philosophical ideas here in a discussion about lucid dreaming, but the selected sequence is mostly a hamhanded series of random convos between four animated tools, three of whom can only dream of acting their way out of a wet paper bag; the other is superfluously armed with a four-string guitar. As a bonus, both the first and the last of the three sages with whom the principal character converses are thinly-closeted serial killers. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]24. American Beauty (1999)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] Kevin Spacey’s rose petals dream where the flower parts strategically cover every segment of Mena Suvari that anyone was interested in seeing. So, yeah, not much of a dream. Disappointing. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]23. Dreams (1990)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] This is the “Crows” segment from Akira Kurosawa’s film about his own dreams, featuring a Japanese dude running around in a Gilligan hat while, offscreen, a pianist who will not be subordinated bangs out Chopin’s “Raindrop” prelude. The trick here is that Gilligan-san is actually TRAVELING THROUGH VAN GOGH PAINTINGS, courtesy of Industrial Light and Magic, before he meets up with Van Gogh himself, who is played by Martin Scorcese, a bit of possibly unintentional comedy that the drafter wisely left out of the submitted clip. The problem is that this sequence really goes nowhere. Either the scary “Mount Fuji in Red” vignette from this flick or any of the scenes from Rashomon could have been a serious honors contender. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]22. Vertigo (1958)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] Jimmy Stewart finds himself trapped in a Hitchockian nightmare sequence. Great film, of course, but not really all that great of a dream sequence thanks to the bizarre animation. The score is good as far as heightening the tension, however. Scottie should probably have quit sleeping during the day if this was going to be the result. I wish this one had skipped the animation and just stuck with more images like the people giving Stewart completely emotionless looks and the graveside visit. Loses points for the utterly ridiculous part where Stewart is reduced to a floating head. In an unrelated story, I just remembered why I vastly prefer Rear Window to Vertigo. We’ll see Hitchcock again muuuuch later. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] There are some interesting philosophical ideas here in a discussion about lucid dreaming, but the selected sequence is mostly a hamhanded series of random convos between four animated tools, three of whom can only dream of acting their way out of a wet paper bag; the other is superfluously armed with a four-string guitar. As a bonus, both the first and the last of the three sages with whom the principal character converses are thinly-closeted serial killers. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]24. American Beauty (1999)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] Kevin Spacey’s rose petals dream where the flower parts strategically cover every segment of Mena Suvari that anyone was interested in seeing. So, yeah, not much of a dream. Disappointing. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]23. Dreams (1990)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] This is the “Crows” segment from Akira Kurosawa’s film about his own dreams, featuring a Japanese dude running around in a Gilligan hat while, offscreen, a pianist who will not be subordinated bangs out Chopin’s “Raindrop” prelude. The trick here is that Gilligan-san is actually TRAVELING THROUGH VAN GOGH PAINTINGS, courtesy of Industrial Light and Magic, before he meets up with Van Gogh himself, who is played by Martin Scorcese, a bit of possibly unintentional comedy that the drafter wisely left out of the submitted clip. The problem is that this sequence really goes nowhere. Either the scary “Mount Fuji in Red” vignette from this flick or any of the scenes from Rashomon could have been a serious honors contender. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]22. Vertigo (1958)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium] Jimmy Stewart finds himself trapped in a Hitchockian nightmare sequence. Great film, of course, but not really all that great of a dream sequence thanks to the bizarre animation. The score is good as far as heightening the tension, however. Scottie should probably have quit sleeping during the day if this was going to be the result. I wish this one had skipped the animation and just stuck with more images like the people giving Stewart completely emotionless looks and the graveside visit. Loses points for the utterly ridiculous part where Stewart is reduced to a floating head. In an unrelated story, I just remembered why I vastly prefer Rear Window to Vertigo. We’ll see Hitchcock again muuuuch later. [/SIZE]
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