WashPo Article Calls for Morbid Obesity to be Classified as a Handicap (1 Viewer)

[Baloney Sandwich]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

 

[Two Deep]

Fat people are hard to look at.

 

[Parrothead]

you mama so fat, when she sit around the house, she sit around the house

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

you mama so fat, when she sit around the house, she sit around the house

Yo mama so fat that her Polo shirt had a real horse on it.

 

[Two Deep]

Are we allowed to freely express our "fattism" in these forums

 

[CBusAlex]

Morbid obesity is most often the result of lifestyle choice over time. Suggesting someone who chooses to do that to themselves is the same as someone who ends up legitimately disabled via a freak accident playing sports/adventuring/etc is ridiculous.

Playing sports or rock climbing or whatever is a lifestyle choice, too.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

I don't think he's fishing. I agree with him.

 

[whiskey7]

Morbid obesity is most often the result of lifestyle choice over time. Suggesting someone who chooses to do that to themselves is the same as someone who ends up legitimately disabled via a freak accident playing sports/adventuring/etc is ridiculous.

Playing sports or rock climbing or whatever is a lifestyle choice, too.

Disagree. Being active/fit is a lifestyle choice. Playing sports or rock climbing are activities that (while not without risk) can contribute to being fit/active/healthy/etc.

 

[Parrothead]

starvation camps..

 

[whiskey7]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

 

[Loan Sharks]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves?

The same as it is for poor people who won't get a job I would say.

 

[higgins]

you mama so fat, when she sit around the house, she sit around the house

Yo mama so fat that her Polo shirt had a real horse on it.

Yo mama so fat, her blood type is Ragu.

 

[eoMMan]

you mama so fat, when she sit around the house, she sit around the house

Yo mama so fat that her Polo shirt had a real horse on it.

Yo mama so fat, her blood type is Ragu.

Yo mama is so fat, she jumped up in the air and got stuck.

 

[Two Deep]

Yo Mama's So Fat....when she goes to the zoo the elephants throw her peanuts.

 

[culdeus]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

 

[Hang 10]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

GTFO the food pyramid doesn't make people obese. Carbohydrates are not the devil.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Your mama so fat even Dora can't explore her

 

[whiskey7]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

I hear what you're saying, but let me ask this...in 2014, how many people who are morbidly obese are morbidly obese because they were mislead about nutrition or did not know what is good/bad to eat? I believe most people who are obese know damn well that washing a handful of Krispy Kremes down with a large Chocolate Mocha is not a healthy breakfast. They do it anyway because they like it. Nutrition info is printed on everything now (even bottled water). Its not that people don't know what they are eating is not good for them. Its that they don't care.

 

[culdeus]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

GTFO the food pyramid doesn't make people obese. Carbohydrates are not the devil.

If you say so

 

[Cjw_55106]

The government is failing fat people.

 

[Mister Martie]

culdeus has shown himself to be one of the most knowledgable people on the board when it comes to nutrition, imo. I wouldn't just dismiss what he is saying out of hand.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Its not that people don't know what they are eating is not good for them. Its that they don't care.

I think it's more accurate to say it's because they are addicts.

 

[Thunderlips]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

I don't think it's just something as simple as years of pies, Yoo-Hoo and potato chips.

 

[Steve Tasker]

"And remember, if you’re not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it’s your window to weight gain."

Instead of using bread, use Pop Tarts.

 

[whiskey7]

Its not that people don't know what they are eating is not good for them. Its that they don't care.

I think it's more accurate to say it's because they are addicts.

Ah! Right. Addicts. Here we go

 

[Thunderlips]

"And remember, if you’re not sure about something, rub it against a piece of paper. If the paper turns clear, it’s your window to weight gain."

Instead of using bread, use Pop Tarts.

Brush your teeth with milkshakes instead of toothpaste.

 

[Ned]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

GTFO the food pyramid doesn't make people obese. Carbohydrates are not the devil.

He's right, GB.

 

[Sand]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

 

[culdeus]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

But keeping it off is a problem. When you push roughly to the point where lean mass = fatty mass your leptin production gets completely upside down.

This is going to ultimately control how you store fat once you take the weight off. Any tiny slip ups for those people is going to lead to huge fat mass gains. And I'm talking virtually one meal of slip-ups. One.

It can take people 2-3 years to reset that hormone. Nobody has ever really studied enough people to know just how long it takes, but the fatter you get the longer it takes to reset, that is known. It's hard to stay on the wagon for that long for anyone. This is why for people at some point WLS is really, honestly, the only option. It's life or death.

 

[Juxtatarot]

culdeus has shown himself to be one of the most knowledgable people on the board when it comes to nutrition, imo. I wouldn't just dismiss what he is saying out of hand.

But, to be clear, if the vast majority of Americans would follow the food pyramid or MyPlate with the types and amounts of food recommended, we would not have the health and obesity problems we have today. The language used and blame placed by many of the anti-carb and/or anti-wheat people often goes too far.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

GTFO the food pyramid doesn't make people obese. Carbohydrates are not the devil.

He's right, GB.

No he isn't. You are relying on anecdotal evidence. (Your personal experience.)

 

[parasaurolophus]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

But keeping it off is a problem. When you push roughly to the point where lean mass = fatty mass your leptin production gets completely upside down.

This is going to ultimately control how you store fat once you take the weight off. Any tiny slip ups for those people is going to lead to huge fat mass gains. And I'm talking virtually one meal of slip-ups. One.

It can take people 2-3 years to reset that hormone. Nobody has ever really studied enough people to know just how long it takes, but the fatter you get the longer it takes to reset, that is known. It's hard to stay on the wagon for that long for anyone. This is why for people at some point WLS is really, honestly, the only option. It's life or death.

Keeping it off is a problem for the exact reason they put it on.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

Its not that people don't know what they are eating is not good for them. Its that they don't care.

I think it's more accurate to say it's because they are addicts.

Ah! Right. Addicts. Here we go

Why do you think they are not addicts?

 

[culdeus]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

But keeping it off is a problem. When you push roughly to the point where lean mass = fatty mass your leptin production gets completely upside down.

This is going to ultimately control how you store fat once you take the weight off. Any tiny slip ups for those people is going to lead to huge fat mass gains. And I'm talking virtually one meal of slip-ups. One.

It can take people 2-3 years to reset that hormone. Nobody has ever really studied enough people to know just how long it takes, but the fatter you get the longer it takes to reset, that is known. It's hard to stay on the wagon for that long for anyone. This is why for people at some point WLS is really, honestly, the only option. It's life or death.

Keeping it off is a problem for the exact reason they put it on.

No, really it isn't. This mindset isn't helpful.

You have to disconnect the idea that morbidly obese people are just thin people that eat more. It's truly a disease of both the mind and body. At a certain point the body loses all control to regulate it's fatness. That level is different for different people.

Here are two completely different points of view on the topic, one is low fat and one is low carb. Both use leptin to explain their central premises and in different ways come to quite similar solutions on the topic. PBS also had a 7 part series that I'm looking for which spent some 11 hours going into detail on why we are looking at morbidly fat people the entirely wrong way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdSHNnRbEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_2rZG80GQ0

 

[StrikeS2k]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

I don't think it's just something as simple as years of pies, Yoo-Hoo and potato chips.

You forgot burgers and fries.

 

[NutterButter]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

 

[The General]

Bunch of fatty apologists in here.

 

[Jobber]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Calling it a true disability removes the personal responibility for their own condition.That, and fat people will now get Handicap tags on their vehicles. Taking away spots for those who need them versus someone who's just too lazy to walk 50 more feet.

 

[fatguyinalittlecoat]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Employers would need to make reasonable accommodations. So yeah, maybe larger chairs, parking spaces, whatever.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

My two hard rules as a sales director are:

#1 Never hire a cat person

#2 never hire a fatty

 

[Loan Sharks]

My two hard rules as a sales director are:

#1 Never hire a cat person

#2 never hire a fatty

I guess you just throw those rules out the window when it comes to dating though since you love the chubby chicks.

 

[DaVinci]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Employers would need to make reasonable accommodations. So yeah, maybe larger chairs, parking spaces, whatever.

Movie theaters, stadiums, and airplanes would be required to have a certain percentage of fatty seats. Minimum door widths would increase from 32" to 42". Probably require a bench every 100', too.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

But keeping it off is a problem. When you push roughly to the point where lean mass = fatty mass your leptin production gets completely upside down.

This is going to ultimately control how you store fat once you take the weight off. Any tiny slip ups for those people is going to lead to huge fat mass gains. And I'm talking virtually one meal of slip-ups. One.

It can take people 2-3 years to reset that hormone. Nobody has ever really studied enough people to know just how long it takes, but the fatter you get the longer it takes to reset, that is known. It's hard to stay on the wagon for that long for anyone. This is why for people at some point WLS is really, honestly, the only option. It's life or death.

Keeping it off is a problem for the exact reason they put it on.

No, really it isn't. This mindset isn't helpful.

You have to disconnect the idea that morbidly obese people are just thin people that eat more. It's truly a disease of both the mind and body. At a certain point the body loses all control to regulate it's fatness. That level is different for different people.

Here are two completely different points of view on the topic, one is low fat and one is low carb. Both use leptin to explain their central premises and in different ways come to quite similar solutions on the topic. PBS also had a 7 part series that I'm looking for which spent some 11 hours going into detail on why we are looking at morbidly fat people the entirely wrong way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdSHNnRbEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_2rZG80GQ0

I dont consider them thin people that eat more. I consider them thin people that eat more and exercise less.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Morbid obesity is a lifelong condition. There's not a simple solution such as getting them to put down a fork either. Being that fat means your leptin sensitivity is altered, often forever. If you are that fat and that lepitin compromised it is usually impossible to maintain virtually any weight loss.

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either. People are finding ways to overeat with the thumb stomach too.

Even going from 500 pounds to 250 pounds comes with the issues of excess skin and some metabolic disorders.

We as a society are failing these people. Badly.

Do most morbidly obese people live a healthy lifestyle and then one day wake up pushing 3 bills or more? No. Its years of bad choices that result in them being that way.

Why is it society's responsibility to help people who choose not to help themselves? Or maybe a better question to ask is how is it we are failing these people who have chosen to fail themselves?

Well it starts with promoting the food pyramid. You tell people they can eat 250-350g of carbs a day, mostly from wheat, and then become shocked when certain people start to run off the rails.

When people were told fat makes you fat, and whole grains are the answer to weight control, then throw on top copious amounts of sugar in liquid form it causes this problem.

Carb addiction is real, it feeds on itself and gets worse. And the USDA did nothing to stop it, and honestly still hasn't done anything but double down on this "whole grain" crap and tell people to eat less sugar, but no real firm guideline on what that is.

People can own their behavior, but the government, nutritionists, and doctors own this too.

GTFO the food pyramid doesn't make people obese. Carbohydrates are not the devil.

Yes, many of the skinniest people (and skinniest cultures as a whole) consume very high-carb diets.

Even wheat consumption specifically is associated with lower, not higher, BMIs.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16339127

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3078018/

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/2/390.full

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18005489/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15640460

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17882134

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15531671

There are all kinds of problems with trying to infer causation from that observed correlation: people may not have lower BMIs because they eat wheat. There are a zillion alternative explanations. But there are even more problems with trying to infer causation in the opposite direction of the observed correlation. Whatever digestive or other problems some people may have with wheat -- and some people, even non-celiacs, do seem to have problems with it -- the evidence doesn't support laying the obesity epidemic on wheat specifically, or on carbs generally.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Weight loss surgery is the only way anyone in this condition can truly stand a chance of getting out of it. And that's no lock either.

[SIZE=13.63636302948px]84 seasons of America's Biggest Loser pretty much dispels this. People can lose weight, even morbidly obese ones.[/SIZE]

Nearly all the Biggest Loser people gain it back, don't they?

 

[NutterButter]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Employers would need to make reasonable accommodations. So yeah, maybe larger chairs, parking spaces, whatever.

Movie theaters, stadiums, and airplanes would be required to have a certain percentage of fatty seats. Minimum door widths would increase from 32" to 42". Probably require a bench every 100', too.

Wouldn't they do that regardless? You're going to be cutting out a sizable percentage of the market if you don't have seating that accommodates fat people.

 

[NutterButter]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Employers would need to make reasonable accommodations. So yeah, maybe larger chairs, parking spaces, whatever.

Seems like a non issue

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled?

The primary consequence may be to elicit angry protestations on message boards.

 

[NutterButter]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled?

The primary consequence may be to elicit angry protestations on message boards.

In that case, I'm all for it

 

[DaVinci]

What's the consequences of classifying these people as disabled? Is it more than just providing larger chairs and uniforms? I'm not sure that I really care how you classify them. That seems like a horrible way to live.

Employers would need to make reasonable accommodations. So yeah, maybe larger chairs, parking spaces, whatever.

Movie theaters, stadiums, and airplanes would be required to have a certain percentage of fatty seats. Minimum door widths would increase from 32" to 42". Probably require a bench every 100', too.

Wouldn't they do that regardless? You're going to be cutting out a sizable percentage of the market if you don't have seating that accommodates fat people.

Perhaps they would once the number of obese people reached critical mass. But that would be a business decision. Now it will be a government mandate.