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WR Chase Claypool, BUF (1 Viewer)
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karl.Racki
Footballguy
Wonder how this effects Waddle, who already is starving for targets...
Faust
MVP
Ian Rapoport
The #Bears are trading WR Chase Claypool to the #Dolphins, sources tell me and @TomPelissero. This ends a prolonged drama and gives Claypool a fresh start. They have tried to trade him since last week after he was a healthy scratch. Now, everyone moves on.
I wouldn’t hold out any hopes that this fresh start will be any different than the ’fresh start’ he had in Chicago.
This kid was originally born in Canada so when his NFL career is over, perhaps he can sign with the Saskatchewan Roughriders or his hometown team, the B.C. Lions
FairWarning
Footballguy
Doubt it affects Waddle at all.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Don't really see his place in this extremely speed oriented offense. If he was upset with usage in Chicago, I don't see a single way this ends well in a vastly more talented receiving unit.
ETA: ran a 4.42 lol. He's fast, he's just not good.
ETA: ran a 4.42 lol. He's fast, he's just not good.
FairWarning
Footballguy
If Claypool played last night, could he play on Sunday for Miami?
FairWarning
Footballguy
He was a great blocker in college, he was incredibly soft with the Bears.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
That's an interesting question and I'm curious to know the answer. Then. A really cool possibility is created where u start one guy and get two games of stats out of it.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Incredible they gave essentially a 1st round pick less than 12 months ago.
And got 18-191 in return
And got 18-191 in return
Faust
MVP
Not so cool with Claypool when his combined stat line in those two games would be something like 3 catches for 38 yards
BassNBrew
Footballguy
The Bears likely will have to give a 5th or 6th for someone to take him.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Based on current standings the Dolphins are dropping down from roughly 188 to 194. Throw in the comp picks and it's 220 to 226.
Only the Panthers, 49ers, and Eagles could have offered less.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
I believe Zach Ertz was put in the same type of situation. He wasn't allowed to play Sunday after being traded affer a Thursday night game.
I think he bought in to his own hype, and got more interested in social media than actually playing football.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
At this point he is a good wr handcuff for if Hill, Waddle, Berrios, Cracraft and Chosen are out. Only if the matchup is good. Also at home. Non primetime game.
dipandglide
Footballguy
This is one of the few spots that may give you a chance to sell
Hill and Waddle are the top dogs. I doubt you can comfortably start Claypool in startem leagues. He could turn into a decent bestball player if he's MIA WR3.
Hill and Waddle are the top dogs. I doubt you can comfortably start Claypool in startem leagues. He could turn into a decent bestball player if he's MIA WR3.
I have always wondered if Claypool is playing wrong position and should be a move TE. Perhaps Miami will feel the same, as that's essentially what Gesicki was.
I think Chosen and Cracraft aren't unassailable, if Claypool still cares.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
Dudes huge for a wr. Same size at Dalton Kincaid. Interesting possibility.
He was fine with Big Ben throwing him the ball.
He didn't do well with three QBs we mocked- Trubisky, Fields, and rookie Pickett.
How do you judge that?
I can think of a lot of WRs that didn't do well with bad QB play...of course.
Miami already has two young WRs that could be special but never see the field and now we'll never see them play.
I don't know that he's going to be anything other than a big end zone target- I don't see him stepping into a spot where he can prove himself at all.
I saw several poor effort highlights and thought nothing of it. He was not catching the poorly thrown pass and didn't try to. Sure ya always want effort but what's it like to see a fourth pass that you're not going to be able to catch? Gotta be frustrating as all...
I don't have him in any leagues and I'm not saying the guy is any good. I just noticed people were critiquing literally only him for the bad QB play. It wasn't Kmet's or Mooney's or Diontae's. Heck in NY we mock one Wilson but the other Wilson, Lazard, and their TEs never get flack
He could help Miami's short yardage and goal line game. Jet sweeps, blocking, using his size versus smaller CBs on short passes. He should be good on contested catches down field. The QB play has been subpar, so there's a chance he could succeed with Tua. Remember the 4 TD game his 1st year with Big Ben at QB?
With the injuries at WR to Cracraft and Ezukanma, plus Berrios out one day this week with a knee, Grier made the right call IMO.
With the injuries at WR to Cracraft and Ezukanma, plus Berrios out one day this week with a knee, Grier made the right call IMO.
dipandglide
Footballguy
There's something off with him. He was outed in PIT and quickly tossed to the curb in Chicago
Big end zone target is the first thing that came to mind when considering why Miami would trade for him. It didn't cost them anything. Why not spin the wheel and see if you can tap the talent?
Good coach speak from McDaniel.
>>We had an opportunity to upgrade our team with a talented guy that’s not easily accessible all the time,” McDaniel said. “It’s up to him to see what that looks like. It’s an exciting opportunity... We are very happy with our receiver core... [but] sometimes things come across your radar you weren’t even looking for. If it has a chance to make [you] better, you jump on that.”
Claypool has been criticized at times for allegedly not taking the game seriously enough, but McDaniel said he won’t be pre-judged and has a “clean slate. I’m pretty sure he is aware of the narratives out there.”<<
>>We had an opportunity to upgrade our team with a talented guy that’s not easily accessible all the time,” McDaniel said. “It’s up to him to see what that looks like. It’s an exciting opportunity... We are very happy with our receiver core... [but] sometimes things come across your radar you weren’t even looking for. If it has a chance to make [you] better, you jump on that.”
Claypool has been criticized at times for allegedly not taking the game seriously enough, but McDaniel said he won’t be pre-judged and has a “clean slate. I’m pretty sure he is aware of the narratives out there.”<<
massraider
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yes, I know that language could sound sexist. It's the musical, gosh darn it.
Fixed. I think this is an indictment of the Chosen one. After the injuries to Cracraft and Ezukanma, perhaps season-ending in the case of EZE , they realized he is truly a 1-trick pony who can't block and run underneath precision routes.
rockaction
Footballguy
It's corps. You have core muscles. The core of your team is tough. You have a wide receiver corps.
I agree. I think McDaniel is fantasizing about a motivated and willing Claypool, a big guy who can block and get open with that 4.4 speed. What's to lose?
I don't think it will work, but if it does? Watch out.
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Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
was it last year or the year before where he got a first down toward the end of the game and stopped to celebrate while the time ran out, essentially eliminating Pitt from the playoffs let alone with that game. that moment imo defines who he is and seems to me the quick exit from Chicago and the comments coming out cements that notion.
as the fourth of fifth option on the field for MIA, hopefully he won't have any opportunities to screw it up for the team. he certainly has the size and raw skills to be a factor in the redzone, which is how he could negatively affect the other receivers.
as the fourth of fifth option on the field for MIA, hopefully he won't have any opportunities to screw it up for the team. he certainly has the size and raw skills to be a factor in the redzone, which is how he could negatively affect the other receivers.
Lol. In the Miami @ CHI game last year, during late game comeback mode, the game where Fields ran for 100+ yards, Claypool was targeted on a long sideline pass which he would've caught if the Miami CB hadn't interfered, but it wasn't called. That may have caught GM Grier's attention. Then Chase was MIA for the remaining games. Strange, cause he seemed to have a role in his very first game in CHI with 6 targets, and 1 rush for 4 yards. He's not a guy who gets separation based on quickness.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Loss of Cracraft and Ekzuma (spelling) means Miami needed a guy that can come in and play. Robbie Chosen is on the Practice sqaud an I think has been elevated twice, so this middling pick lets miami keep chosen off the rest of season roster. Cracraft was Miami's best blocking WR, so perhaps that is the role they envision here as the "other slot" guy and blocker.
It's always a decent move to add cheap talent where you can I guess.
It's always a decent move to add cheap talent where you can I guess.
jtd13
Footballguy
Unless you're the titans. Then you have a WR Corpse.
rockaction
Footballguy
Well played.
The homer in me says Claypool has a chance to contribute. Great blocker in the run game, adds size to the WR room, good with Big Ben as a rookie, Tua's accuracy. Coach McDaniel will find a way to utilize him.
>>Dolphins tight end Durham Smythe, who played with Claypool for two years at Notre Dame, said “He was obviously very talented player physically. That was evident the minute he got there as a freshman. Obviously, he’s had a lot of success in the league. Things have gotten kind of it seems like a little odd lately. I don’t know all the specifics, not being around those teams or communicate with him lately. I’ve always liked him, liked being in the locker room with him.
“When he first got to Notre Dame, he was almost size he is now and was destroying safeties and corners in the run game which I think is a part of his game that not a lot of people talk about. Physically very talented. Good complement to what we have here. We’re excited to have him.” Asked about his character, Smythe said: “It was always great. People have asked me around the building; I told them straight up he’s a good guy, really is. Good guy, smart guy.<<
>>Dolphins tight end Durham Smythe, who played with Claypool for two years at Notre Dame, said “He was obviously very talented player physically. That was evident the minute he got there as a freshman. Obviously, he’s had a lot of success in the league. Things have gotten kind of it seems like a little odd lately. I don’t know all the specifics, not being around those teams or communicate with him lately. I’ve always liked him, liked being in the locker room with him.
“When he first got to Notre Dame, he was almost size he is now and was destroying safeties and corners in the run game which I think is a part of his game that not a lot of people talk about. Physically very talented. Good complement to what we have here. We’re excited to have him.” Asked about his character, Smythe said: “It was always great. People have asked me around the building; I told them straight up he’s a good guy, really is. Good guy, smart guy.<<
Steeler
Footballguy
He just isn't good in this situation. In jump ball contested catch opportunities down field you can expect him to go up, not catch the ball, then fall down.
Steeler
Footballguy
This was my first thought when I saw the updated thread title.
Hopefully, Claypool will do some of this in Miami: https://youtu.be/eqQliCrdizM?feature=shared
you also have core receivers in your wide receiver corps
Steeler
Footballguy
Hopefully for MIA it works out that way. I have watched most Steelers games and the highlight you showed was an exception to the rule I mentioned: Claypool falls down a lot (especially in contested catch scenarios).
rockaction
Footballguy
Just watched a Bears game where he didn't high point but instead fell backwards and to the ground. The ball bounced away harmlessly, and the announcer pointed out that you'd "like to see him high point that." But then see that very first game of his career against the Giants where he makes that circus catch high-pointing a ball on the sideline while toe tapping, and you immediately think, "All-Star."
I think it's all about effort for him. If he tries, he flies. If he gets in his own head and thinks, he stinks.
