Milkman
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https://twitter.com/JeffRatcliffe/status/1176857030667243520?s=20
Wow 3rd in red zone targets this year?
Wow 3rd in red zone targets this year?
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WR Preston Williams, MIA (1 Viewer)
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rockaction
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
zamboni
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
According to the thread, a deep ball from the 50 to a receiver at the 17-yard line is considered a red-zone target since the receiver was inside the 20.
zamboni
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Milkman
Footballguy
Shouldn't be. That's why drop rates are essentially a joke. Everybody quantifies them differently. The two passes in the endzone he didn't catch were not drops. They were great plays by the defender. Can Preston Williams do better to protect ball? Yes? Were they drops? No.
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shadyridr
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rockaction
Footballguy
To the best of my understanding, the red zone stat is when the player is inside the red zone, not necessarily the team's field position. IOW, if a team throws the ball from their own forty to the fifteen? Red zone target.
eta* Frankman covered it.
eta* Frankman covered it.
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shadyridr
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Is that always the case? Huh interesting I always thought it was based on team's field position. Kind of a dumb stat then.
rockaction
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shadyridr
Footballguy
Here's red zone targets from another source. Hilton leads with 7. Preston has 5
http://nflsavant.com/targets.php
http://nflsavant.com/targets.php
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The Frankman
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I feel I overpaid initially in FAAB for him ($10 and the 2nd place guy had $4).. but he's pretty much the #1 in this O for now and if this turns into a Chad Henne/Blake Bortles Jacksonville Jaguars situation there should be tons of garbage time for him to eat. He has little competition in that Wilson should take more snaps away from Parker, and even if he is demoted Josh Rosen looks for him constantly.
Milkman
Footballguy
Still if we were asked if we'd be happy is Preston Williams had 5 RZ targets through 3 weeks, all of us would say yes.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
in a dyno league...if ty hilton cant go this week....he starts over mike williams
in redraft.....12 teamer....he is siting on waivers....i just dont see me playing him over mclaurin. chark...godwin or larry fitz....so.....i am watchfully waiting
in redraft.....12 teamer....he is siting on waivers....i just dont see me playing him over mclaurin. chark...godwin or larry fitz....so.....i am watchfully waiting
Milkman
Footballguy
I wouldn't start him over any of those guys either but I just have a feeling he's going to have a blow up game........
jtd13
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
dipandglide
Footballguy
Snaps rising, volume rising, garbage time incoming, and chemistry with the QB are all good signs. He’s flex worthy with upside ROS. How he produces will tell us a lot about his future with Miami. I’m hoping he balls out and is their number 1 coming into ‘20.
Milkman
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Ironman2131
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He's pretty far down on my depth chart in dynasty (behind Julio, Cooks, Watkins, and Boyd and on an even level with DK) but his potential is incredible. In addition to really liking him I'm also a Dolphins fan (I know, it's rough), so I'm hoping in another year or two he's pushing to get into my lineup every week.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I said a couple...and partly teasing...just came across the video. Sorry to stir the pot on this touchy subject. If I were a betting man I would say he scores this weekend.
My original concern stemmed from Dolphin fans trashing him on their forum Here....just found it odd that they seemed so down on him. I have not seen much of his game with exception to a few nice highlights so I was curious if it was as bad as they make it sound or if they are just upset because they are Dolphin fans.
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He's sitting on waivers in my league.
I've got Deandre and Evans going and had McLaurin penciled in as my flex but with injury now...who knows. Have Beasely on the bench and wondering what the consensus is here on those two and who you'd rather have OR better yet if you had both, who'd you start?
I've got Deandre and Evans going and had McLaurin penciled in as my flex but with injury now...who knows. Have Beasely on the bench and wondering what the consensus is here on those two and who you'd rather have OR better yet if you had both, who'd you start?
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
Beasley is #51 in the nfl for Dominator Rating, Williams is #1 with 3x the rating of Beasley. To translate: Williams sees a lot more volume of his teams targets. If he catches half of the TD opportunities he has had we are talking about a top 12 WR.
Im starting Williams everywhere i can. One league he is on my taxi squad, and will stay there for 2019 (Beasley is on my active roster oddly enough), but that team is not a contender this year
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TZMarkie
Footballguy
Firing the Unicorn 
up this week as a WR3 in one league, OVER DJ CHARK. My buddy told me I was a fool for starting ALSHON JEFFREY (as a WR3) up in one league over Chark there too, but I don't much like Chark's match up. Tough to have the stones to bench a guy coming off 3 straight TD games, but I need a big game from someone. I think we all feel like the blow up game is coming for Preston Williams, sooner or later.
I think the talent is there to have a fair day for Chark, but I think the upside may be limited, as it seems to have a FOURNETTE stamp slapped all over that match up. I do think Preston has an extremely low floor weekly, I think a 130 yard + 2 TDs outburst is also within the range of outcomes on certain days too.
If Rosen is in, he certainly seems to be looking for him, and that " disgusted Rosen look" near the end zone last week (many of you might not have seen it, Rosen clearly was steamed when the coach wanted to kick a FG and not go for it on a 4th and 3 play on the Dallas 3) tells me Rosen still wants to be competitive. This was very early in the game too, before it got out of hand....... I think Rosen wants to actually win games. Well, if they get down to the 1-12 record range, that tends to suck the life out of any player, but by all accounts at least some of the players still want to play well and win.
We all know the organization is tanking, but some of these players are still playing for pride (and possible future paychecks) and want to show well. If Preston Williams wants a shot at earning some real money, he's going to have to make the best of the hand he was dealt in this organization thats clearly rebuilding. After missing out on the combine for his legal issues, I have to believe he wants to ball out. I believe if he had added another TD in here somewhere, say a week 2 TD, he would at least be rostered most everywhere. As a few here have noted, he is just a few big plays from having some great numbers thus far.
He may not be the most articulate, but the interviews I have seen certainly paint him as a kid thats "happy to just be there and have a shot ". In this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htesPmCcvlA at about the 1:55 mark, an interviewer asks him point blank what he told the Dolphins, concerning his "shoving/restraining incident" . I like how he basically took it head on and said " I just told them the honest truth, I kept it real with them........ and at the end of the day thats all you can do".
One interesting thing I noticed earlier, while looking at this kid and his scenario.
Note his late season schedule. WEEK 15 (SEMI-FINALS) - @NYG...................WEEK 16 (CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK) HOME VS. CINCY.
I can understand why he has such a low ownership percentage at this point, but its definitely a situation to pay attention to. If you have en empty bench spot this week, he might be a great stash, and if the breakout game happens, he will be good to own, or a good trade piece to have in redraft.
Here's to hoping the mythical beast known as "The Unicorn" turns into a reality and has a bit of a coming out party this week.
TZM
up this week as a WR3 in one league, OVER DJ CHARK. My buddy told me I was a fool for starting ALSHON JEFFREY (as a WR3) up in one league over Chark there too, but I don't much like Chark's match up. Tough to have the stones to bench a guy coming off 3 straight TD games, but I need a big game from someone. I think we all feel like the blow up game is coming for Preston Williams, sooner or later.I think the talent is there to have a fair day for Chark, but I think the upside may be limited, as it seems to have a FOURNETTE stamp slapped all over that match up. I do think Preston has an extremely low floor weekly, I think a 130 yard + 2 TDs outburst is also within the range of outcomes on certain days too.
If Rosen is in, he certainly seems to be looking for him, and that " disgusted Rosen look" near the end zone last week (many of you might not have seen it, Rosen clearly was steamed when the coach wanted to kick a FG and not go for it on a 4th and 3 play on the Dallas 3) tells me Rosen still wants to be competitive. This was very early in the game too, before it got out of hand....... I think Rosen wants to actually win games. Well, if they get down to the 1-12 record range, that tends to suck the life out of any player, but by all accounts at least some of the players still want to play well and win.
We all know the organization is tanking, but some of these players are still playing for pride (and possible future paychecks) and want to show well. If Preston Williams wants a shot at earning some real money, he's going to have to make the best of the hand he was dealt in this organization thats clearly rebuilding. After missing out on the combine for his legal issues, I have to believe he wants to ball out. I believe if he had added another TD in here somewhere, say a week 2 TD, he would at least be rostered most everywhere. As a few here have noted, he is just a few big plays from having some great numbers thus far.
He may not be the most articulate, but the interviews I have seen certainly paint him as a kid thats "happy to just be there and have a shot ". In this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htesPmCcvlA at about the 1:55 mark, an interviewer asks him point blank what he told the Dolphins, concerning his "shoving/restraining incident" . I like how he basically took it head on and said " I just told them the honest truth, I kept it real with them........ and at the end of the day thats all you can do".
One interesting thing I noticed earlier, while looking at this kid and his scenario.
Note his late season schedule. WEEK 15 (SEMI-FINALS) - @NYG...................WEEK 16 (CHAMPIONSHIP WEEK) HOME VS. CINCY.
I can understand why he has such a low ownership percentage at this point, but its definitely a situation to pay attention to. If you have en empty bench spot this week, he might be a great stash, and if the breakout game happens, he will be good to own, or a good trade piece to have in redraft.
Here's to hoping the mythical beast known as "The Unicorn" turns into a reality and has a bit of a coming out party this week.
TZM
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Swap out Tate for Kittle on bye and Godwin uncertainty with a 4pm game and we are in the same boat. Double giddy-up!!!
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
I am between him and Sutton in one league. Have Williams in right now. Probably keep him starting
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That's cool, so when Rosen is washed out of the league about a year or so from now, he can text with the Unicorn from his couch. Just kidding, this *does* improve the outlook. And I agree with @TZMarkie above that they both have pride (and a job) to play for.
rockaction
Footballguy
It's like the poor man's -- no, broke man's -- version of the Cutler/Marshall friendship.
rockaction
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Him or DK will be in my Dyno lineup this week. Leaning towards Preston as I like the target numbers.
dipandglide
Footballguy
flexinnnnn
Milkman
Footballguy
On NFL, now showing as 2 for 37. I just remember the 2 catches - the tip catch and the another down the right side where they hurried up to avoid the challenge.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Otis
Footballguy
GoBirds
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Nope. His competition is Allen Hurns and perhaps Albert Wilson in some formations. He's cheap, he's better than them and might be catching passes from a lefty next year
He had 2 nice receptions out of his 4 catches on 7 targets for 47 yards. Parker had his best game of the season.
