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WR Rashee Rice, KC (2 Viewers)
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His attorney isn't convinced yet apparently.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I just found a video of Rashee's lawyer, apparently... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz5TGN7eUcM
BigJim®
Footballguy
Of course someone will. The question is what crimes their evidence supports charging. You might be 100% right on everything you said. It would be surprising though if, as you suggest, he is volunteering witnesses or admitting to elements of serious crimes. Most lawyers would advise against helping law enforcement make a strong case with volunteered witnesses. And these are likely just witnesses against his interest, for the reasons you mentioned.
TheWinz
Footballguy
In the attached video at around the 1:30 mark, Keyshawn Johnson says Rashee had "a little red flag here, a little red flag there" at SMU, which is why he fell in the draft. Anyone know what "red flags" Keyshawn is talking about?
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TheWinz
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I truly believe Rashee has no choice but to admit being the Lambo driver, which we all know he was. Once that comes out as a fact, I really wouldn't consider Rashee putting names to faces as ratting out his friends, and I don't think they would see it that way either. They are all on many videos. Heck, I think I may have already named one of them, after a short internet search. I wouldn't be shocked to hear the cops already know the names of all 5, as well as who was where in each car.
No but Keyshawn takes driving at unsafe speeds serious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30qsvS8oGQQ
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
funny they didn't use the up-close pic TMZ has of Rice and his friends walking away from the scene. Super funny
osubuckeyeman
Footballguy
I think we just disagree on what most lawyers would advise.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I remember when that happened ... Beibs turfed Keyshawn's lawn... he was not a happy camper!!
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Man, bad week to be a Chiefs fan... First the Rice thing, now voters didn't pass a tax for Stadium upgrades, which could mean both Chiefs and Royals move..
Unrelated to Rice, but somewhat funny to hear Keyshawn talking about "red flags" on prospects considering his own (albeit a long time ago) off-the-field historyIn the attached video at around the 1:30 mark, Keyshawn Johnson says Rashee had "a little red flag here, a little red flag there" at SMU, which is why he fell in the draft. Anyone know what "red flags" Keyshawn is talking about?
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Doug B
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Interesting "public interest" poll that I started over at Saintsreport. Trying to predict how much of a PR hit the NFL is taking right now -- and might take in the future -- over the Rashee Rice incident.
About 3 in 10 respondents hadn't even heard of the Rice incident until they saw the poll (first posted yesterday morning).
Preliminary impression: Yeah, just polling part of one team's fanbase on one message board. But if there really are enough people (esp NFL fans) out there that either never really hear about the Rice incident, or else hear about it vaguely and think it was "a minor accident that doesn't make news without an NFL player involved" ... then there might not be enough PR hit to make the NFL come down hard on Rashee Rice. Especially after a year, year-and-a-half of legal delays.
About 3 in 10 respondents hadn't even heard of the Rice incident until they saw the poll (first posted yesterday morning).
Preliminary impression: Yeah, just polling part of one team's fanbase on one message board. But if there really are enough people (esp NFL fans) out there that either never really hear about the Rice incident, or else hear about it vaguely and think it was "a minor accident that doesn't make news without an NFL player involved" ... then there might not be enough PR hit to make the NFL come down hard on Rashee Rice. Especially after a year, year-and-a-half of legal delays.
Stinkin Ref
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the fact that Rice was the second person out of the vehicle does not mean he was the driver......it could mean he wasn't in the passenger seat.....but whoever was in back could have very easily got out before the driver did...
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Does it even matter if he was driving in the eyes of the commissioner? The fact remains they left the scene of an accident they caused without regard to the health of anyone involved. The NFL isn't bound by legal loopholes regarding leaving the scene of an accident or who was driving.
Well, Rice exited the front seat passenger side.
It’s a 4 door vehicle so why would the person in the back climb out of the front?
Just saying.
Todem
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
1000%
I place people who do things like this in my "scum bag" category.
Pure scum bag to walk no check that....run away from the scene of an accident.
What are you hiding? You're old enough to make millions but not face the consequences of your reckless actions?
Done. And the NFL needs to wake up and have a zero tolerance policy for this kind of f***ery.
Stinkin Ref
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just IMO but I believe the fact of whether he was the driver or not is a huge issue.....and yes I think it would make a difference to the commissioner.....if he was" just" a passenger that got scared/panicked and left the scene that is a completely different conversation then driving recklessly/racing causing an accident, endangering and injuring people and leaving the scene.....
"Rasheed you shouldn't have left the scene....it's a dbag move and not a good look".....shame on you....
he may still get a small suspension because of the optics.....but most likely not as long as if he was driving...so yeah it does matter
need2know
Footballguy
public should absolutely not pay for that
Doug B
Footballguy
I don't see that -- aside from domestic abuse allegations -- the NFL has an appetite to step in and mete out punishment in lieu of the legal system in cases where there is little apparent PR risk to the shield.
Briefly: The NFL generally only wakes up in response to clear threats to its bottom line. The Rashee Rice incident might or might not turn into such a threat, though early indications are not positive (IMHO) for those feeling that Rice should be punished harshly.
Went and checked the various sports news sites once again just now. The Rashee Rice story is even more buried than it was yesterday. Not even a major headline on NFL-specific news sites. Yes, you can go out and find coverage if you seek it ... but this isn't yet Ray Rice all over again.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
obviously the only reason might be that the rear door would not open for some reason.....child locked/damaged in wreck....wouldn't open immediately.....or driver not undoing the child lock right away...and you see the front passenger get out so you quickly follow cause you just want to get the heck out....I get it....not likely, but not totally out of the question....
Kind of makes you think the NFL has some control over what the media reports
massraider
Footballguy
Moved on from the gun-toting drug-addled madman, to the NFL secretly controlling all sports media?Kind of makes you think the NFL has some control over what the media reports
Fantastic!!
Don't agree with anything you are saying here.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
cool
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I personally believe the NFL will look at fleeing the scene more seriously than you think.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
Agree 10000%, but there is a real possibility, the Chiefs move to Kansas now too. Kansas has been saving for this with gambling money. KC better hope the chiefs can workout a separate deal with the county or I think they will move.
Well, witness did say she saw them putting guns in the from of their slacks, so there's that. Seemed credible since she was virtually standing right next to them.Moved on from the gun-toting drug-addled madman, to the NFL secretly controlling all sports media?Kind of makes you think the NFL has some control over what the media reports
Fantastic!!
Having "some control" translates to "secretly controlling all media? Whatever you say champ
massraider
Footballguy
I'm Boss, my brother is Champ. Easy mistake, happens all the time.
Apologies for misquoting, I sometimes get conspiracy theories mixed up when people spew a lot of them. My bad.
karl.Racki
Footballguy
I still think the fact people were hurt in this incident is nothing to forget either.. The guy is opening himself up to a lot of legal troubles. I think the NFL and KC will not want the look of this and I think he is going to pay for it by them also.
Whatever you say Champ
JohnnyU
Footballguy
It takes 5 minutes to go from Missouri to Kansas from KC Missouri
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Every now and then I confuse you with your uncle Chief, or your cousin Sport.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Exactly. 99.9% of the public isn’t going to make a big deal out of a traffic accident with very minor injuries.
This story is already basically dead to the public and by the time the season starts it will be forgotten. If the league suspends him it will have zero to do with public outcry since there basically isn’t any.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Someone got out the back door. Rice got out the front - second one out. He was driving. Look at the video.
Moreover, he was the only one registered to drive the Lambo. Read my posts on the insurance. It isn't good for him.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
just because he was the only one registered to drive the Lambo doesn't mean he was the only one that could have drove the Lambo...
Stoneworker
Footballguy
Well of course the lack of direct video evidence means any number of creative scenarios may be imagined in which Rice wasn't driving either of the cars registered to him.
And those scenarios may very well be used (perhaps successfully) by lawyers in a courtroom.
But for reasonable discussion otherwise perhaps the principles of common sense and Occam's razor should instead apply
And those principles say unequivocally that the man was driving one of the cars
Unless you are here in DFW, where the story has been the lead on all 4 channels the last 3 days. But hey, with all the “ALL IN” Cowboys moves NOT happening it makes since to talk about the Chiefs.
GO RANGERS.
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TheWinz
Footballguy
Ref, above you agreed Rice was the 2nd one out of the front passenger door. But then you suggested perhaps he was in the back and the back door would not open. When Nate then told you the passenger back door did in fact open, you chose not to reply to that. The occupants of the vehicle didn't have time to mentally process and come up with a plan on which order to exit the vehicle and through which door. Rice WAS the 2nd one out the front, and that means he was the driver. If Rice admits to being the 2nd one out (which he will), he will have to come up with one helluva reason why he wasn't driving.
Todem
Footballguy
Which shows the dysfunction of our society today.
That a young man can run away from an accident showing complete disregard for human life.
Appalling how low we have sunk as a species.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
totally fair....didn't watch the video close enough really....if they didn't have time to mentally process, I wonder why he didn't just exit the driver's side if he was driving and just get out...
Big Nate
Footballguy
Big Nate
Footballguy
The door wouldn't open due to the accident. So the driver gets out second, out of the passenger front door.
TheWinz
Footballguy
Rashee Rice announces he has met with police over Saturday's street-racing crash
Chiefs receiver vows to take "full responsibility for my part in this matter," but doesn't say whether he was driving.
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Rice still refuses to say he was driving, and I am 100% sure it's because his lawyer told him not to.
Big Nate
Footballguy
It is probably smart - he doesn't have to announce or say anything at this point.Rashee Rice announces he has met with police over Saturday's street-racing crash
Chiefs receiver vows to take "full responsibility for my part in this matter," but doesn't say whether he was driving.
Rice still refuses to say he was driving, and I am 100% sure it's because his lawyer told him not to.
He will have to answer to the investigators and the insurance company though. Now those 2 "people" won't say either as it is an investigation. It will come out eventually though.
If he says he wasnt, then one of the other guys is going to have to confess to driving without insurance and be liable for a bunch of claims
Stinkin Ref
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think the last time I heard the Occam's razor take was in the Tyreek Hill thread when everybody made snap judgments and jumped to conclusions without having all the details about the kid's broken arm.....and we know how that turned out....
