Despite starting in Indonesia, I lost India about 4 months in.But its been smooth sailing since then, one of my supports has survived forever so I have all the officer training unlocks. For some reason like 50% of my rookies become snipers so I regularly have missions with 3 snipers.If you are playing on Classic you need a solid strategy for macro-level operations. You won't make it otherwise.Pick a region you are OK with losing so you don't get spread too thin and emphasize satellites and engineers early.
I always need at least 2 of these, no matter how big the squad. Lightening Reflexes is another nice Assault ability. It makes enemy Overwatch shots useless.I try to always have a Sniper. They are particularly effective once you get the skill to put them in Overwatch after moving.
[Assault with run and gun is another must IMO.
Completely turn based. No reflexes required.OMG. I loved the original.Can someone tell me (as it wasn't clear from the trailer) is this still a turn-based game in the spirit of the original, or do I have to be "fast" with a joystick/mouse to be good at this? I always liked the old games because I had to think versus hit buttons quickly.
You guys playing on PC or X-box? I have a rather old PC, and my X-Box is broken...so I'm looking at an investment either way.Completely turn based. No reflexes required.OMG. I loved the original.Can someone tell me (as it wasn't clear from the trailer) is this still a turn-based game in the spirit of the original, or do I have to be "fast" with a joystick/mouse to be good at this? I always liked the old games because I had to think versus hit buttons quickly.
PS3. Love it so far. No lag, no crashes.'Fat Nick said:You guys playing on PC or X-box? I have a rather old PC, and my X-Box is broken...so I'm looking at an investment either way.'Sand said:Completely turn based. No reflexes required.'Fat Nick said:OMG. I loved the original.Can someone tell me (as it wasn't clear from the trailer) is this still a turn-based game in the spirit of the original, or do I have to be "fast" with a joystick/mouse to be good at this? I always liked the old games because I had to think versus hit buttons quickly.
PS3 here, too. Two lock ups, but otherwise fine.PS3. Love it so far. No lag, no crashes.'Fat Nick said:You guys playing on PC or X-box? I have a rather old PC, and my X-Box is broken...so I'm looking at an investment either way.'Sand said:Completely turn based. No reflexes required.'Fat Nick said:OMG. I loved the original.Can someone tell me (as it wasn't clear from the trailer) is this still a turn-based game in the spirit of the original, or do I have to be "fast" with a joystick/mouse to be good at this? I always liked the old games because I had to think versus hit buttons quickly.
Finally started playing it and it's exactly what I hoped it would be.PC version all the way. Sorry back to XCom. I'll comment when I come up for air.
Same. Basically same as the first gameplay wise, which is AWESOME. Just has obvious graphics upgrades and useful tweaks. I like the movement style. Much simpler than the time units. You can see exactly how far you can go while still being able to shoot. I like the hive base style. Very cool looking. The scripted missions are a little awkward since the first one allowed you to do almost every attack but it does force hard decisions on you. That makes the invasion feel that much more pressing. I'm very happy with this game. Its everything I ever hoped for.Finally started playing it and it's exactly what I hoped it would be.PC version all the way. Sorry back to XCom. I'll comment when I come up for air.
I'm right there with you.. except for the broken xbox thing. I just don't have one of those.Tried downloading the demo last night. Won't play on my crappy PC. I'm barely at the minimum requirements for processor and RAM. Think my graphics card is too slow. Now I have to decide if I want to buy a new PC, or get a new x-box (Old one finally died...RROD came back after I fixed it 2 years ago). Ugh. Looking at a significant investment either way.
I imagine you could get a broken Xbox fairly cheaply if you really want one...I'm right there with you.. except for the broken xbox thing. I just don't have one of those.
Not sure how many hours I put in, but I just beat it on Normal last night. In hindsight, I think the replay value is less than I first thought. It's loads of fun, and I've already started a new game on a higher difficulty, but it lacks the allure of the first run, mostly because much of the single player game is so scripted.How long of a game are we talking?
I drool reading this thread as I really want this game. X-com was my absolute favorite growing up. I remember getting the demo for the first one and playing that one level over and over and over until I saved up enough $ to buy the full game...then the next games were great too. I'm really getting ready to just go buy a new Xbox. I know the 720 is going to come out next year, but I can at least use this one as a media player up in the bedroom or something. I can't justify a new PC for what I use it for. This would be the first and likely only PC game I'll play in a long while.I'm right there with you.. except for the broken xbox thing. I just don't have one of those.Tried downloading the demo last night. Won't play on my crappy PC. I'm barely at the minimum requirements for processor and RAM. Think my graphics card is too slow. Now I have to decide if I want to buy a new PC, or get a new x-box (Old one finally died...RROD came back after I fixed it 2 years ago). Ugh. Looking at a significant investment either way.
Yes... I also loved the original... :sigh:I drool reading this thread as I really want this game. X-com was my absolute favorite growing up. I remember getting the demo for the first one and playing that one level over and over and over until I saved up enough $ to buy the full game...then the next games were great too. I'm really getting ready to just go buy a new Xbox. I know the 720 is going to come out next year, but I can at least use this one as a media player up in the bedroom or something. I can't justify a new PC for what I use it for. This would be the first and likely only PC game I'll play in a long while.I'm right there with you.. except for the broken xbox thing. I just don't have one of those.Tried downloading the demo last night. Won't play on my crappy PC. I'm barely at the minimum requirements for processor and RAM. Think my graphics card is too slow. Now I have to decide if I want to buy a new PC, or get a new x-box (Old one finally died...RROD came back after I fixed it 2 years ago). Ugh. Looking at a significant investment either way.
It's a pretty awesome game in its own right if you like turn-based RPG style games. It's really well done.If you aren't familiar with the genre though start on Normal difficulty. You will get frustrated otherwise. The original game was very difficult and this game is no different.Downloading the demo on Steam now. I never played the original, so I guess we shall see how much of the game is awesomeness vs good game + nostalgia factor.
There are different starting strategies based on which nation you HQ in and which continents you throw satellites up on first. There are always two things that you need to be focused on early in the game no matter what strategy you use though. Keeping panic levels low so no nations leave the program at the end of the month and grouping satellites to convert entire continents so you can gain the continental bonus. In both cases you are going to need to build satellites as fast as possible (which requires engineers). I only ended up with one workshop, but you may have to build more depending on whether you can engage in missions to gather more engineers. Engineers are required to build satellite nodes, which are required for more satellites. Just keep the process rolling. If you have to lose some nations make sure you do it on the same contintent so you don't lose more than one contintent bonus.Don't be afraid to restart if you see things going really south in the first few months.Just went out to Best Buy on my lunch break and picked up a new Xbox + X-Com. Wife is out late tonight at a conference. It's time to kick some alien butt this evening. Woo.FWIW, They have the XBox 360 holiday bundles out. I got the 4GB Xbox w/ Kinect + 2 games for $249. I'll likely sell the Kinect and games for some profit over the $199 I'd have paid for just the system. So what's the best tip for starting out a new X-Com campaign? Invest in satellites? Invest in Workshops?
It's pretty long. I couldn't imagine finishing the first run through in less than 20 or 30 hours. The higher the difficulty the longer it is going to take. I'm probably into 30 hours already and I seem to have a decent ways to go.How long of a game are we talking?
That was the one thing I feared with the scripted missions. The first one was so organic. No single playthrough was the same as the next. Guess we'll find out. MAybe mods later on will have it be more spontaneous.Not sure how many hours I put in, but I just beat it on Normal last night. In hindsight, I think the replay value is less than I first thought. It's loads of fun, and I've already started a new game on a higher difficulty, but it lacks the allure of the first run, mostly because much of the single player game is so scripted.How long of a game are we talking?
Opposite of you. Played Xcom, never played Jagged. So wish I did. They have it on steam but I'm scarred it wont hold up.Never played the original, but I did play a ton of Jagged Alliance and this sounds similar. Anybody play both?
As far as I understand it, there is absolutely no way you can beat it without following a very specific sequence of events/research. For example -That was the one thing I feared with the scripted missions. The first one was so organic. No single playthrough was the same as the next. Guess we'll find out. MAybe mods later on will have it be more spontaneous.Not sure how many hours I put in, but I just beat it on Normal last night. In hindsight, I think the replay value is less than I first thought. It's loads of fun, and I've already started a new game on a higher difficulty, but it lacks the allure of the first run, mostly because much of the single player game is so scripted.How long of a game are we talking?
Just tried the demo on my laptop. Painful. No way. So if I go for it, will have to be on the PS3.Really enjoying this, brings back some old memories without some of the old frustration. Having some issues with it not running that well on a pretty beefy PC though
They just came out with a JA2 remake, but they apparently screwed it up big by trying to make it real time.Opposite of you. Played Xcom, never played Jagged. So wish I did. They have it on steam but I'm scarred it wont hold up.Never played the original, but I did play a ton of Jagged Alliance and this sounds similar. Anybody play both?
Have read that it may be necessary to flash the BIOS to get it to work right. Not sure if i am computer savvy enough anymore to do such a thing. Maybe that is why i play more on the console these days..'TxBuckeye said:Just tried the demo on my laptop. Painful. No way. So if I go for it, will have to be on the PS3.'GAlmgren said:Really enjoying this, brings back some old memories without some of the old frustration. Having some issues with it not running that well on a pretty beefy PC though
My strategy has been to take the Engineer missions, unless it's an area in a lot of panic. I started out with two Labs early and don't need Scientists. Seems you can't have enough Engineers and they are harder to get than money.'jonessed said:There are different starting strategies based on which nation you HQ in and which continents you throw satellites up on first. There are always two things that you need to be focused on early in the game no matter what strategy you use though. Keeping panic levels low so no nations leave the program at the end of the month and grouping satellites to convert entire continents so you can gain the continental bonus. In both cases you are going to need to build satellites as fast as possible (which requires engineers). I only ended up with one workshop, but you may have to build more depending on whether you can engage in missions to gather more engineers. Engineers are required to build satellite nodes, which are required for more satellites. Just keep the process rolling. If you have to lose some nations make sure you do it on the same contintent so you don't lose more than one contintent bonus.Don't be afraid to restart if you see things going really south in the first few months.'Fat Nick said:Just went out to Best Buy on my lunch break and picked up a new Xbox + X-Com. Wife is out late tonight at a conference. It's time to kick some alien butt this evening. Woo.FWIW, They have the XBox 360 holiday bundles out. I got the 4GB Xbox w/ Kinect + 2 games for $249. I'll likely sell the Kinect and games for some profit over the $199 I'd have paid for just the system. So what's the best tip for starting out a new X-Com campaign? Invest in satellites? Invest in Workshops?
I'm actually amazed this game was made in this age of FPS. I'm hoping the game sells well and we get more TBS games like this.If you don't take advantage of saves, Normal is still rather difficult. Early in the game aliens can kill your guys rather easily, even behind full cover.'jonessed said:It's a pretty awesome game in its own right if you like turn-based RPG style games. It's really well done.If you aren't familiar with the genre though start on Normal difficulty. You will get frustrated otherwise. The original game was very difficult and this game is no different.'Mad Cow said:Downloading the demo on Steam now. I never played the original, so I guess we shall see how much of the game is awesomeness vs good game + nostalgia factor.
I haven't played a game on the computer since getting my PS3 two or three years ago. So, without games, there was no need to upgrade anything. Now, I simply have to deal with the fact I no longer have a gaming machine when it comes to PCs. It definitely isn't worth the time or effort to get there. So, I'll PS3 it and be happy.Have read that it may be necessary to flash the BIOS to get it to work right. Not sure if i am computer savvy enough anymore to do such a thing. Maybe that is why i play more on the console these days..'TxBuckeye said:Just tried the demo on my laptop. Painful. No way. So if I go for it, will have to be on the PS3.'GAlmgren said:Really enjoying this, brings back some old memories without some of the old frustration. Having some issues with it not running that well on a pretty beefy PC though
Me too. I named my Asian support dude "No. 16". What nickname did the computer give him? Scotch.I like to rename
Absolutely - they really needed to allow us to build a database of names to choose from for each game. I have taken to naming my guys after current and former Saints (and ##### defectors like Morten Anderson and Joe Horn, who get to inhabit the women characters).Me too. I named my Asian support dude "No. 16". What nickname did the computer give him? Scotch.I like to rename
I like to name them after their appearance and actual name. My one heavy guy was a hulking black dude. I named him Boomer. Died on his 20th mission trying to rescue that dude on the bridge. RIP Boomer. Another was this really brute looking chick whose last name was Payne. I called her "Pretty". Half the fun is naming these guys because it gives you that much more attachment compared to the first game. Hurts when they bite it.'Sand said:Absolutely - they really needed to allow us to build a database of names to choose from for each game. I have taken to naming my guys after current and former Saints (and ##### defectors like Morten Anderson and Joe Horn, who get to inhabit the women characters).'cstu said:Me too. I named my Asian support dude "No. 16". What nickname did the computer give him? Scotch.I like to rename