Xperts Sports (1 Viewer)

[RUN HARD]

I know something is going down...and was wondering if anyone had the scoop? I planned on moving 2 leagues there. But the last month has been scary with a delay in Survivor leagues...and close to 10 posting that an announcement is coming in a day or 2.....30 days later.... (crickets)

Plus...I no longer see their link on this site.

So come on...leak the news.

Also...today...the site is DOWN....

?????

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

plus I could have sworn I did a WCOFF sat in June over there. Dont see none

 

[Toads]

They've always been a bit on the loose side for my/our tastes.

Not too together for that level of competition.

 

[mad sweeney]

They were terrible when I used them two seasons ago, totally ruined a keeper league with snafus and poor interface. I would enver touch them again.

 

[RUN HARD]

They were terrible when I used them two seasons ago, totally ruined a keeper league with snafus and poor interface. I would enver touch them again.

I have a 20 man league with IDP's...no seperate conferences. I actually liked a lot of Xperts stuff. So what site should I consider? I bet there is a topic on this (comparing sites)....could someone paste it in this thread if they can? Just want to get the latest thread on which sites are best.Thanks

 

[KING]

i would think MFL would be a much better site to host your leagues. xpert had alot of issues last year. also before you move, check out the forums (if the site comes back up) and see the complaints. i definitely wouldn't mess with their money leagues. alot of people had to wait, and complain to get their winnings. they had to go thru several "the check is in the mail" and wait several months to get their prizes. given whats happened so far this year, i sure wouldn't be sending any of my money their way.

 

[Toads]

They were terrible when I used them two seasons ago, totally ruined a keeper league with snafus and poor interface. I would enver touch them again.

I have a 20 man league with IDP's...no seperate conferences. I actually liked a lot of Xperts stuff. So what site should I consider? I bet there is a topic on this (comparing sites)....could someone paste it in this thread if they can? Just want to get the latest thread on which sites are best.Thanks

MFL's good, their only noticable defect being player position designations which are saved for last minute entry on the Wed. before the Thursday first scheduled NFL game.Their only fault....not conducive to roster building for players changing positions....they just don't have it together there and it creates a major headache when you've rostered a player that they can't keep up with. Otherwise give them an A.

 

[Obie Wan]

They were terrible when I used them two seasons ago, totally ruined a keeper league with snafus and poor interface. I would enver touch them again.

I have a 20 man league with IDP's...no seperate conferences. I actually liked a lot of Xperts stuff. So what site should I consider? I bet there is a topic on this (comparing sites)....could someone paste it in this thread if they can? Just want to get the latest thread on which sites are best.Thanks

MFL's good, their only noticable defect being player position designations which are saved for last minute entry on the Wed. before the Thursday first scheduled NFL game.Their only fault....not conducive to roster building for players changing positions....they just don't have it together there and it creates a major headache when you've rostered a player that they can't keep up with. Otherwise give them an A.

couldn't quite follow what the problem is.Can you explain in more detail.thanks

 

[Jbl1967]

Xpert site is up now, and as far as their software goes, i had a lot of early problems and decided not to go there, i moved from fanstar to MFL and will never leave. I have been a commissioner since 1986 and have used every single software on the net and MFL is the best by far. RTS a close second.

 

[Dreamer]

They were terrible when I used them two seasons ago, totally ruined a keeper league with snafus and poor interface. I would enver touch them again.

I have a 20 man league with IDP's...no seperate conferences. I actually liked a lot of Xperts stuff. So what site should I consider? I bet there is a topic on this (comparing sites)....could someone paste it in this thread if they can? Just want to get the latest thread on which sites are best.Thanks

MFL's good, their only noticable defect being player position designations which are saved for last minute entry on the Wed. before the Thursday first scheduled NFL game.Their only fault....not conducive to roster building for players changing positions....they just don't have it together there and it creates a major headache when you've rostered a player that they can't keep up with. Otherwise give them an A.

Did you send him an email about the problem? In my experience, they'll do whatever it takes to fix or improve just about anything. They are by far the best service available IMO.

 

[Ford Prefect]

rtsports is the best in my opinion.

 

[Solidsteel Rats]

Go with MFL #1

Xperts has problems all over used it and never will go back!

 

[ericthemidget]

They made some bigtime mistakes last year in handling WCOFF.

Their software has never been that "tight".

I think its a matter of trying to do TOO MANY things at the expense of doing a lot of the essential things right.

League management is becoming a competitive space. Not saying they are going anywhere, but if you're doing it to make a profit, and you don't have a reasonable part of the pie right now, I think its tough to get market share.

The trend in the software industry is moving more and more towards "open source" (FREE in layman's terms). The FleaFlicker guys are on to something in my opinion, for those starting new leagues. Those of us who have been in it a while have settled in to sites that we are comfortable with, and its tough to convince a whole league of guys to switch to another site. Personally, I'm in too many leagues that use Sportsline for my liking, but the ease of use has a lot of the technically challenged owners hooked.

 

[RUN HARD]

Xpert Sports has sold the site to Bodog.com. They are a poker site and sportsbook and are looking to get into fantasy football in a big way

 

[BigRed]

Go with MFL #1Xperts has problems all over used it and never will go back!

But...how can that be? They have a "mission statement!" lol MFL "Xperts"

 

[datonn]

I worked over there for one season before becoming a "goon" with Footballguys. The owner there was a nice guy, but I got the sense that he was probably in a bit over his head with a few things. I always thought he did a nice job with the site though, considering how much most people paid to use their services....

 

[Raskell5]

They are no longer hosting the WCOFF or WCOFF satellites. WCOFF has moved to RTS.

 

[ericthemidget]

Xpert Sports has sold the site to Bodog.com. They are a poker site and sportsbook and are looking to get into fantasy football in a big way

If that's true, then maybe they have hit paydirt.If they can put some resources ($$$ and people) behind it, they've got a good foundation. Just need to tighten it up and keep it go.Selling of sites I have seen lately : Fanball, Rotoworld, now XpertSports

 

[rock753]

Go with MFL #1Xperts has problems all over used it and never will go back!

But...how can that be? They have a "mission statement!" lol MFL "Xperts"

You are a hater. Your grudge is personal, and it is sad to see you hold it this long. If anyone ever needs a life, it is you.I wonder what you will do now BR, now that Red is moving on to bigger and better things?

 

[PeaceBringer]

It is sad to me to see Xperts sold to bodog. I will see how the transfer goes but it leaves me with a huge problem. EIther I follow the transfer to bodog or I have to find a new host.

Big Problem though, no other commish product allows for the "formations" style play. So either will have to move and change league rules or will have to stick with Bodog which may present other issues. If another site had a "formations" option it would probably make my decision easier, but none of them do.

 

[Saints-Man]

It is sad to me to see Xperts sold to bodog. I will see how the transfer goes but it leaves me with a huge problem. EIther I follow the transfer to bodog or I have to find a new host.

Big Problem though, no other commish product allows for the "formations" style play. So either will have to move and change league rules or will have to stick with Bodog which may present other issues. If another site had a "formations" option it would probably make my decision easier, but none of them do.

What is this?

 

[PeaceBringer]

It is sad to me to see Xperts sold to bodog. I will see how the transfer goes but it leaves me with a huge problem. EIther I follow the transfer to bodog or I have to find a new host.

Big Problem though, no other commish product allows for the "formations" style play. So either will have to move and change league rules or will have to stick with Bodog which may present other issues. If another site had a "formations" option it would probably make my decision easier, but none of them do.

What is this?

formations style is allowing for only particular lineups. Instead of having wide open flex it restricts to an option of allowable choices such as run and shoot, pro-set, and so on.

 

[austinke]

Big Problem though, no other commish product allows for the "formations" style play. So either will have to move and change league rules or will have to stick with Bodog which may present other issues. If another site had a "formations" option it would probably make my decision easier, but none of them do.

not true - MyFantasyLeague.com has formations-style play - see set up a league, and check out the "for commissioners > setup > players and rosters > formations setup" option, or this page.

 

[TEOM]

does anyone expect the Bodog influence to have an effect on the ability of those that surf Xperts through work security filters? Will the gambling tag be applied and thus make it unavailable?

 

[PeaceBringer]

Big Problem though, no other commish product allows for the "formations" style play. So either will have to move and change league rules or will have to stick with Bodog which may present other issues. If another site had a "formations" option it would probably make my decision easier, but none of them do.

not true - MyFantasyLeague.com has formations-style play - see set up a league, and check out the "for commissioners > setup > players and rosters > formations setup" option, or this page.

cool, thanks. I was trying to check to see if they added that yet and hadn't found it. As much as I dislike some of the other functionality to MFL, it may well get my business then.

 

[BigRed]

You are a hater. I wonder what you will do now BR, now that Red is moving on to bigger and better things?

It's not my fault you can't face the reality that the site whose butt you kiss was such a SNAFU; no need to take it out on me. Or is WCOFF is a "hater" too?I'll try to sleep nights. Pity you may not be able to. sniffle

 

[rock753]

You are a hater. I wonder what you will do now BR, now that Red is moving on to bigger and better things?

It's not my fault you can't face the reality that the site whose butt you kiss was such a SNAFU; no need to take it out on me. Or is WCOFF is a "hater" too?I'll try to sleep nights. Pity you may not be able to. sniffle

I would harldy call the site a Snafu. There are many many people who swore by that format for the years it was alive and will continue to do so. I see MFL, and some of the other top fantasy sites trying to work some of Red's concepts into their sites. Bodog.com certainly dosen't think of the site as a Snafu, and will bennifit from what Red poored his blood and sweat into. You are bitter because you were given a chance to be a part of that staff, and failed because you could not understand the concept of being part of that team. That was the team that brought many fantasy footballers a lot of things that they wanted. I am sorry that you failed, but your actions since you were asked to leave have been very much on the low road.Instead of walking away with class, you chose to bash the site whenever and where ever you could. You showed your class for the last couple of years, and finally I have a chance to tell you how classless your actions were.As far as the WCOFF, I respect the guys that run it. They did what they needed to do. But some of the players involved with that are big time haters. There were issues and Red did the best he could do. The issues were beyond his control and there were no easy answers. He accepted responsablity, but also received many many personal attacks from WCOFF members. I have lost respect for a lot of the WCOFF players. And lastly BR, please remember that five years ago Red Cashion was a simple FBG poster, same as you. He read the boards, he posted, and he saw some things that people wanted. He busted his ###, and built a site that brought those things. He had great support from a few staff memebers who understood the word Team, and his site florished. 30,000 plus members. Several big time company's loved the product and kept coming after it. His concepts were embraced by thousands of fantasy football players. And yes, he finally cashed in with Bodog. So BR, why don't you let by gones be by gones, and congratulate Jeremy for his efforts and his success. Thank him for what he has brought to the fantasy football world; because yes BR, even though you won't realize it, you will continue to benifit from his contribution. He raised the bar, and that is good for all of us.If not BR, go out and do it better. Fire up the code, and build one better. If not, just let it lay.

 

[Saints-Man]

Here's to Red Cashion...

 

[rock753]

Here's to Red Cashion...

 

[Saints-Man]

BTW, not , but :excellent posting:, Rock753.

 

[BigRed]

I would harldy call the site a Snafu.

what a surprise. Clearly a great many disagree. But I guess that makes them "haters" too. Sorry to burst your bubble, but wrong; we're simply calling a spade a spade. Get over it. The rest of your post is even more of a joke. People like you kissed his butt (and still are) because you were trying to hitch a ride and become one of the "big boys" in FF and cash in, either money-wise or fame-wise or both. And hey I'm OK w/that, it's not like you don't have company...greed does that to people...but at least be honest about it and if nothing else spare us the revisionist history BS.shills

 

[datonn]

BR,

Why all the hate? I'm 3+ years removed from Xpert Sports, but I never harbored any negative feelings toward Jeremy from my time there. I never saw a dime for my efforts back in 2004 (I think it was 2004), and he ultimately kicked me to the curb for HIGHLY suspect reasons (I made some comments about how I thought we might be able to do things better related to writing articles and covering teams in the future, and he sent me packing for I guess what he thought was me telling him how he needed to run his ship). However, if not for my time at Xpert Sports, I likely never would have landed my gig at Footballguys. I needed that bit of AA-ball experience before I could have hoped for a shot at the majors (FBGs). I'm happy for Jeremy...though now that he sold off the venture, I'll probably never visit that site again. MFL is the place to be for league stuff outside of FBGs, in my own opinion, and for the lion's share of all my NFL player news, I need look no further than: Here

Be happy for him. He got paid and made the FFL landscape a little better or more diverse in the process. He also spun-off guys like Moose (now at Livewire), me (FBGs) and several others. Life's too short to harbor grudges.

 

[rock753]

I would harldy call the site a Snafu.

what a surprise. Clearly a great many disagree. But I guess that makes them "haters" too. Sorry to burst your bubble, but wrong; we're simply calling a spade a spade. Get over it. The rest of your post is even more of a joke. People like you kissed his butt (and still are) because you were trying to hitch a ride and become one of the "big boys" in FF and cash in, either money-wise or fame-wise or both. And hey I'm OK w/that, it's not like you don't have company...greed does that to people...but at least be honest about it and if nothing else spare us the revisionist history BS.shills

You are so short minded, mostly caused by bitterness. Sure some disagree with my thoughts on what Red was able to accomplish at XS. But there are many more that do agree. Your hate causes you to be blind to the fact. I shouldn't waste my time with you, but I am tired of you running him through the mud. Tell me one thing in my post that is not accurate. I had more fun playing fantasy football at XS than any other time since I started playing 18 years ago. Many others did also Greed had nothing to do with it; maybe given the fact that you keep refering to it tells something of you? Many of us did what we did and never really expected much of anything. Maybe your bitterness comes from your greed? I enjoyed my time there and am thankful for it. Because you didn't is no reason to bash the man (and those that supported him) every chance you get.

 

[SteelerXL]

Nice job Red!

 

[zdaddy]

Nice job Red!

 

[Genester]

I have no idea which one of you guys is right, but it seems like you have a personal argument. Why the rest of us need to see it, I am not sure. Two things are clear for me:(1) Xperts has had its share of issues (and I LIKE their site and service), for whatever reason.(2) Between

You are so short minded,

and

He accepted responsablity,

remedial English training may be a good thing.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

I have no idea which one of you guys is right, but it seems like you have a personal argument. Why the rest of us need to see it, I am not sure. Two things are clear for me:(1) Xperts has had its share of issues (and I LIKE their site and service), for whatever reason.(2) Between

You are so short minded,

and

He accepted responsablity,

remedial English training may be a good thing.

rock and the english language have never been friends.

 

[Christo]

Here's to Red Cashion...

I think his only mistake was trying to do too much too soon.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

For some reason I enjoyed reading that argument

I did a 100 dollar public money league for ####s and giggles and xperts last year and it had a few problems with freezing and such but not anymore than cbs or any of the major public league providers. I was generally pretty happy with the service and can't wait to get some survivor leagues in.

 

[rock753]

I have no idea which one of you guys is right, but it seems like you have a personal argument. Why the rest of us need to see it, I am not sure. Two things are clear for me:(1) Xperts has had its share of issues (and I LIKE their site and service), for whatever reason.(2) Between

You are so short minded,

and

He accepted responsablity,

remedial English training may be a good thing.

rock and the english language have never been friends.

Trust me, it really don't matter all that much.

 

[Razor007]

I am in 2 leagues at xpert and 4 at MFL, both have there good points and bad...xpert is easy to navigate because most everything is on the front page. MFL some things you have to search for, but MFL seems to have less problems with the software.

 

[trogg78]

I'm in a keeper league and dynasty league at xperts and I have enjoyed the last 2 years despite the issues that was never really that painful in my eyes, I think Bodog will do a good job and the site should be better than ever. I'm feeling alot better about the whole thing now. I just hope the transition goes smooth.

I have no confidence in Bodog. I have no reason to believe they can keep fantasy players happy. Just look at what ESPN did to Fantasy baseball.