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TSA: 95% failure rate (1 Viewer)

Baloney Sandwich said:
Most of the TSA folks I encounter seem about as sharp as your average fast food worker but with less of a work ethic. I'm surprised they were able to be successful 5% of the time.
That's essentially what they are. Salary isn't much better either.
Per usajobs.gov, they make $31k-$44.5k per year. That's $18.45-21.40 per year. If that's what fast food workers are making, then why are they demanding $20 an hour?
Nevertheless that's a pretty ####ty salary and I'm not surprised they're doing a pretty ####ty job.
I've been job hunting for a while since the Feds are getting rid of my job. I've come across several jobs that require degrees, technical certifications and/or 5+ years of experience that pay less than that. Just because you've adjusted to life with a higher salary does not mean the salaries for a TSA officer are bad. In fact, they're pretty much right about at the median salary in the US.
Relative to the importance of their work, I believe it's a ####ty salary
It seems like their work really isnt that important.

 
Hastur said:
Coming back from the Philippines two months ago, and I had a run in with the TSA.

Sitting in Tokyo during my layover, and I realize I forget where my seat is on the plane(it's been 2 months at this point since I bought the tickets). I thought maybe I could change it to an aisle seat if it weren't. I walked up to the counter, and asked if they could look that up for me, which they did. Aisle seat, awesome! I then ask how much it would be to upgrade to 1st class(I was curious, and wanted to know if it was worth it since it was a 14 hour flight). Her response to me was:

"Oh, very expensive! By the way, you have been randomly selected by the TSA for a security screening! Please go get your carry on bags, and come back to the counter". :confused: :shock: :wall:

I go get my bags, and go to the counter. The lady motions me over to the side, where a tall Japanese security guard is waiting. He motions me to a back room, and communicates with me thru written instructions and hand motions. I'm guessing he didn't speak english. He pats me down, and swipes the palms of my hands with some cloth that resembled a very large band aid. He also does this to the handles of my luggage. He takes that cloth and puts it into a box, and holds up a sign that says I am free to go.

Weird all around.
He was testing for residual particles from explosive materials. Smaller airports in the United States without expensive scanning equipment often use this technique as well.

 
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Baloney Sandwich said:
Most of the TSA folks I encounter seem about as sharp as your average fast food worker but with less of a work ethic. I'm surprised they were able to be successful 5% of the time.
That's essentially what they are. Salary isn't much better either.
Per usajobs.gov, they make $31k-$44.5k per year. That's $18.45-21.40 per year. If that's what fast food workers are making, then why are they demanding $20 an hour?
Nevertheless that's a pretty ####ty salary and I'm not surprised they're doing a pretty ####ty job.
I've been job hunting for a while since the Feds are getting rid of my job. I've come across several jobs that require degrees, technical certifications and/or 5+ years of experience that pay less than that. Just because you've adjusted to life with a higher salary does not mean the salaries for a TSA officer are bad. In fact, they're pretty much right about at the median salary in the US.
Relative to the importance worthlessness of their work, I believe it's a ####ty their salary is 100% too high.
 
I wonder if their batting average is any better at detecting weed going through TSA. I dunno... a 5% chance of getting caught bringing weed through TSA versus 0.00001% chance of getting caught by sending FedEx... I'll take FedEx. But think of it this way... if a 5% risk gives me pause for bringing weed through, maybe it'll give some terrorists pause as well. What kind of self-respecting terrorist is going to take a 5% risk they only get to kill a few people going through screening? That's for those lone wolf types; a professional suicide bomber just can't make a living with that kind of risk.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Most of the TSA folks I encounter seem about as sharp as your average fast food worker but with less of a work ethic. I'm surprised they were able to be successful 5% of the time.
That's essentially what they are. Salary isn't much better either.
Per usajobs.gov, they make $31k-$44.5k per year. That's $18.45-21.40 per year. If that's what fast food workers are making, then why are they demanding $20 an hour?
Nevertheless that's a pretty ####ty salary and I'm not surprised they're doing a pretty ####ty job.
I've been job hunting for a while since the Feds are getting rid of my job. I've come across several jobs that require degrees, technical certifications and/or 5+ years of experience that pay less than that. Just because you've adjusted to life with a higher salary does not mean the salaries for a TSA officer are bad. In fact, they're pretty much right about at the median salary in the US.
Relative to the importance worthlessness of their work, I believe it's a ####ty their salary is 100% too high.
The job itself is important. The people doing the job may just not be motivated :shrug:

 
I am shocked that glorified mall cops are not screening bags carefully.

:mellow:

Shut. It. Down.

For all of the government programs that the right wants abolished, how this isn't at the top of their list is baffling.

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Shoe Bomber and Underwear bomber got through TSA with no problem.

 
they caught the 8oz can of apple juice i forgot about, that i had for my daughter. afterwards, i was subjected to bomb testing, more screening, full search and pat down and an interview. all with my 8 year old in tow. they got me!

 
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I once accidentally took a box cutter in my carry-on on a flight from Dulles to Hartford CT and back (2 flights). I had it in my work bag, and it had slipped down to the bottom under some files I had. Didn't realize it was in there until I got back to my stores and was digging in my bag for something. This was maybe 2-3 years after 9/11... you know, when they hijacked planes...with box cutters.... :unsure:

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
I call B.S. Magic rocks, while very effective at preventing tiger attacks, have no known effect against terrorists, unless those terrorist were somehow to weaponize tigers.

 
I once accidentally took a box cutter in my carry-on on a flight from Dulles to Hartford CT and back (2 flights). I had it in my work bag, and it had slipped down to the bottom under some files I had. Didn't realize it was in there until I got back to my stores and was digging in my bag for something. This was maybe 2-3 years after 9/11... you know, when they hijacked planes...with box cutters.... :unsure:
Yet one time when flying from Columbus to Dulles, I had an allen wrench multi-tool (basically, all the different allen wrench sizes, you just flip out the one you need.) And holy crap did the TSA go nuts over that. What the #### am I going to do with it? unbolt the passenger seats? Assemble Ikea furniture? HTF is an allen wrench going to cause problems on a plane?

 
I once accidentally took a box cutter in my carry-on on a flight from Dulles to Hartford CT and back (2 flights). I had it in my work bag, and it had slipped down to the bottom under some files I had. Didn't realize it was in there until I got back to my stores and was digging in my bag for something. This was maybe 2-3 years after 9/11... you know, when they hijacked planes...with box cutters.... :unsure:
2 years ago a co-worker went through 2 different airports on 2 different trips. In his carry-on luggage were 3 Cutco filet knives with 6" blades that he forgot he had. TSA never found them and he freaked out when he got home and found them and realized what had happened.

 
I once accidentally took a box cutter in my carry-on on a flight from Dulles to Hartford CT and back (2 flights). I had it in my work bag, and it had slipped down to the bottom under some files I had. Didn't realize it was in there until I got back to my stores and was digging in my bag for something. This was maybe 2-3 years after 9/11... you know, when they hijacked planes...with box cutters.... :unsure:
2 years ago a co-worker went through 2 different airports on 2 different trips. In his carry-on luggage were 3 Cutco filet knives with 6" blades that he forgot he had. TSA never found them and he freaked out when he got home and found them and realized what had happened.
I feel like a blade would be one of the most recognizable profiles on an x-ray too...

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
I call B.S. Magic rocks, while very effective at preventing tiger attacks, have no known effect against terrorists, unless those terrorist were somehow to weaponize tigers.
I'd like to buy your rock :grabswallet:

 
The duffel I occasionally use for short trips doubles as a shooting bag and routinely carries firearms and considerable amounts of ammunition to a shooting range where thousands of rounds of ammunition are discharged in it's general vicinity. Then the used firearms and leftover ammo is loaded back into the bag and carried home.

It has been swabbed down for explosive residue twice and never set off an alert.

 
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The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
I call B.S. Magic rocks, while very effective at preventing tiger attacks, have no known effect against terrorists, unless those terrorist were somehow to weaponize tigers.
I got this rock from a weaponized tiger.

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Most of the TSA folks I encounter seem about as sharp as your average fast food worker but with less of a work ethic. I'm surprised they were able to be successful 5% of the time.
That's essentially what they are. Salary isn't much better either.
Per usajobs.gov, they make $31k-$44.5k per year. That's $18.45-21.40 per year. If that's what fast food workers are making, then why are they demanding $20 an hour?
$31k is $18.45 an hour? Is that Ohio math?

You guys just figuring out what a disaster TSA is rates high on the entertainment meter, same as day 1.

Like I've been saying for ten+ years, wait until they dig deeper into DHS spending. Then people are really gonna be pissed.

 
Rayderr said:
shadyridr said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Shoe Bomber and Underwear bomber got through TSA with no problem.
They did? :no:

 
Baloney Sandwich said:
Most of the TSA folks I encounter seem about as sharp as your average fast food worker but with less of a work ethic. I'm surprised they were able to be successful 5% of the time.
That's essentially what they are. Salary isn't much better either.
Per usajobs.gov, they make $31k-$44.5k per year. That's $18.45-21.40 per year. If that's what fast food workers are making, then why are they demanding $20 an hour?
$31k is $18.45 an hour? Is that Ohio math?

You guys just figuring out what a disaster TSA is rates high on the entertainment meter, same as day 1.

Like I've been saying for ten+ years, wait until they dig deeper into DHS spending. Then people are really gonna be pissed.
Ah, you got me. Made a typo on the calculator. You've won this round Gadget. But.... They're still being paid more than fast food employees. $14.90 for an entry level job with the qualifications of being able to read and speak english is pretty damn good. Had a job opportunity just last week to make videos for phone apps. That paid $16/hour. And there were a hell of a lot qualifications for that.

And I don't think any of are now "just figuring out what a disaster TSA is." This is just another log on the fire. Hell, the first post reads "Yet another reason" which to those proficient in English language, like the TSA officers, would know that means that we're aware of other reasons prior to this one.

 
Rayderr said:
Nick Vermeil said:
I agree the TSA is nonsense. But what replaces it? Serious question.
Go back to airports providing their own security?
Look how that worked. Serious comment.

I disagree with those who feel it should be scrapped. I think it provides a needed deterrent.

 
Rayderr said:
Nick Vermeil said:
I agree the TSA is nonsense. But what replaces it? Serious question.
Go back to airports providing their own security?
Look how that worked. Serious comment.

I disagree with those who feel it should be scrapped. I think it provides a needed deterrent.
Were they failing 95% of the time? A 5% chance of getting caught is not a deterrent. Remember 9/11 involved 19 men. TSA's magnificent 5% success rate would mean 1 one of those 19 people would get caught. The other 18 would still be able to continue on and carry out the attacks. And that's with knowing that they would do something like that (prior to 9/11, this sort of attack was really unthinkable. Now it's not.)

 
NCCommish said:
shadyridr said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
I call B.S. Magic rocks, while very effective at preventing tiger attacks, have no known effect against terrorists, unless those terrorist were somehow to weaponize tigers.
I got this rock from a weaponized tiger.
Impressive. I hope someday to hear the tale.

 
shadyridr said:
RedmondLonghorn said:
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
Where do you purchase one of these magic rocks? Is this something I can order on Amazon?

 
The job itself is important.
You say that as if it is a self-evident fact. It isn't.

The job has been done incompetently by TSA mouth breathers for 15 years and how many terrorist attacks have they foiled? And how many incidents of terrorists or others getting dangerous items on board planes have resulted in loss of life, serious injuries or even non-serious injuries?

I am not suggesting that there should be no security at airports, but to say "the job itself is important" is assuming facts not in evidence.
their presence alone could be thwarting terrorists attacks. We just found out yesterday that their hit rate was 5%
Or it could be this magic rock I carry. They are not thwarting anything but people who want big shampoo bottles. The security in place is crap anyone with a little time and money can still get whatever they want on a plane and attempt to hijack it.
Where do you purchase one of these magic rocks? Is this something I can order on Amazon?
It's a magic rock. There is a quest of course. But first some fetch missions to get the info you need to find the rock.

 
I've been carrying through huge medical devices whose sole purpose is to pierce/cut human flesh through for years.

Only time they stopped me was an old woman TSA officer that decided to hold up my model uterus like a kaleidoscope and nearly fainted when I explained what it was.
This didn't get near enough love. Nothing quite like a good model uterus to stimulate conversation.

 
I've been carrying through huge medical devices whose sole purpose is to pierce/cut human flesh through for years.

Only time they stopped me was an old woman TSA officer that decided to hold up my model uterus like a kaleidoscope and nearly fainted when I explained what it was.
This didn't get near enough love. Nothing quite like a good model uterus to stimulate conversation.
Got gasps and laughs from the crowd around me. I thought she broke it when she threw/dropped it on the ground. Her face turned nearly purple from embarrassment. :lol:

 

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