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Bloom and EBF are the main reasons why I keep returning to this site. Thanks for this Bloom!

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Saw Griffin at #2 and stopped reading.

I knew the list was correct at this point.

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Thanks Bloom, this rocks as usual!

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Thanks Bloom, this rocks as usual!

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Good to see Martin getting the love he deserves........as all ways great job!!

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

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Seeing Wylie compared to Welker, is his value a lot higher in PPR formats than a non-PPR format? Just value relative to other WRs; so, would guys like Broyles and Childs have more value than him in non-PPR?

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Thanks for all your hard work, but let's keep the accolades for Wylie and Broyles to a minimum as I was hoping to get them on the cheap in the later rounds of my Rookie Draft.

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Thanks for all your hard work, but let's keep the accolades for Wylie and Broyles to a minimum as I was hoping to get them on the cheap in the later rounds of my Rookie Draft.

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Bloom,I thought that you always included tiers, no? Thanks

It's still kind of fluid right now, but there will a tier-based rookie ranking article with the post draft version. I would say that there's a break around 7/8, 14/15, 21/22/23, and 40 or so in terms of absolute value.position by position tiers tend to break along those lines.

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:thumbup: Seeing Wylie compared to Welker, is his value a lot higher in PPR formats than a non-PPR format? Just value relative to other WRs; so, would guys like Broyles and Childs have more value than him in non-PPR?

I would say Childs for sure moves up in non ppr. Broyles and Wylie would be close.Since Childs and Broyles are coming back from serious injuries, their draft position will change their value to as it gives us insight into what the team doctor's prognosis is for their recovery, etc. same with wylie and his durability issues

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.
But if Griffin runs anywhere near as often as Newton did as a rookie, he's going to get killed. Newton is much bigger, and I don't think even he can possibly keep up that amount of rushing over the long term.

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Thanks for all your hard work, but let's keep the accolades for Wylie and Broyles to a minimum as I was hoping to get them on the cheap in the later rounds of my Rookie Draft.

Wylie just went at 3.1 in our rookie draft. Broyles at 3.3

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.
But if Griffin runs anywhere near as often as Newton did as a rookie, he's going to get killed. Newton is much bigger, and I don't think even he can possibly keep up that amount of rushing over the long term.
definitely something big he needs to adjust his approach to in pros, but i think he is not a "run first" QB by any stretch. He might be a "leave the pocket quick" guy, which he'll need to work on, but shanny's offense will naturally have him on move a lot to mitigate that. RG3 does consistently look pass first when he breaks the pocket.

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.
But if Griffin runs anywhere near as often as Newton did as a rookie, he's going to get killed. Newton is much bigger, and I don't think even he can possibly keep up that amount of rushing over the long term.
definitely something big he needs to adjust his approach to in pros, but i think he is not a "run first" QB by any stretch. He might be a "leave the pocket quick" guy, which he'll need to work on, but shanny's offense will naturally have him on move a lot to mitigate that. RG3 does consistently look pass first when he breaks the pocket.
RG3 is neither a run 1st or a leave the pocket quick guy. One of his most highly regarded traits is his willingness to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. His pocket awareness is exceptional for a college QB, regardless of his spread attack. RG3 runs when there are great plays to be made by doing so or if it was designed. I think anyone who expects these great amounts of rushing attempts by him in the NFL are going to be disapointed.

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.
But if Griffin runs anywhere near as often as Newton did as a rookie, he's going to get killed. Newton is much bigger, and I don't think even he can possibly keep up that amount of rushing over the long term.
definitely something big he needs to adjust his approach to in pros, but i think he is not a "run first" QB by any stretch. He might be a "leave the pocket quick" guy, which he'll need to work on, but shanny's offense will naturally have him on move a lot to mitigate that. RG3 does consistently look pass first when he breaks the pocket.
I agree with you there, but then that means he's not getting all those points for running like Newton did. I like Griffin a lot, but I think people are just drawing a straight line from what Newton did as a rookie to what they think Griffin will do. I don't think Newton himself will ever put up the same number of fantasy points ever again, much less Griffin. I mean, Newton had 14 - FOURTEEN - rushing TDs last year. People are kicking themselves that they missed out on Newton in last year's rookie drafts, and they're vowing to never make that mistake again. Enter Griffin. That's just my two cents. I know they're very different, but that's precisely why I think most people will be disappointed if they think they're going to get Newton's numbers by drafting Griffin.In leagues that award four points per passing TD, you'd have to throw 21 more TD passes to match up with Newton's 14 rushing TDs. I'm not saying Griffin won't rush for any TDs, but I think people really need to temper their expecations.

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later.

BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp?

Thanks!

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Wylie hype is getting our of control. This is a guy who is going to struggle to adapt to the NFL IMO. He is undersized and lacks any physicallity to his play. It's nice to be fast and quick, but you also have to be able to play through restrictions to get open in the NFL. He is going to need a lot of work to ever come anything remotely close to Welker.

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Why are you so high on a guy that has had such limited opportunities? That's pretty big praise for a guy that doesn't have much of a track record, especially compared to guys like Blackmon and Floyd.

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Like where you have Mychal Kendricks and Zach Brown (not yet listed).

Hoping we can find a place for Bobby Wagner and Demario Davis in the 30-60 range after the draft.

Whitney Mercilus has me nervous, but I understand the argument. Can't see ranking Coples behind him if both are drafted to play 4-3 DE, though.

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Like where you have Mychal Kendricks and Zach Brown (not yet listed).Hoping we can find a place for Bobby Wagner and Demario Davis in the 30-60 range after the draft.Whitney Mercilus has me nervous, but I understand the argument. Can't see ranking Coples behind him if both are drafted to play 4-3 DE, though.

Do you also have Hightower a tier beneath Kendricks?

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Why are you so high on a guy that has had such limited opportunities? That's pretty big praise for a guy that doesn't have much of a track record, especially compared to guys like Blackmon and Floyd.
I've got a really bad man crush here. Not a big fan of Blackmon, he's (to me) a WR2 with a slim chance of WR1 numbers. I like Floyd (a lot). I think K Wright does not have the skill set to dominate, more like a contributor. A Jefferey (to me at least) does not have a high ceiling. Hill has something that you can't teach and that is size & speed. Mike Wallace had the same effect on me when he came into the league. GT did not really use Hill that often, still baffled by it.

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Why are you so high on a guy that has had such limited opportunities? That's pretty big praise for a guy that doesn't have much of a track record, especially compared to guys like Blackmon and Floyd.
I've got a really bad man crush here. Not a big fan of Blackmon, he's (to me) a WR2 with a slim chance of WR1 numbers. I like Floyd (a lot). I think K Wright does not have the skill set to dominate, more like a contributor. A Jefferey (to me at least) does not have a high ceiling. Hill has something that you can't teach and that is size & speed. Mike Wallace had the same effect on me when he came into the league. GT did not really use Hill that often, still baffled by it.
Thing that scares me is that many more informed than me have said he can't catch very well in traffic (i.e. not the combine) and doesn't play as fast as he times.

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L. Miller is way too low. Placing him behind Polk is just silly IMO. He is a vastly more talented RB. I can't imagine any situation what so ever that would make me even for a second want to draft Polk over Miller.

M. Barron should be in the top 50. He is a sure starter in the NFL for years and there are at least 20 guys on this list who will end up out of the NFL or barried on a teams depth chart in 2 years. I'd easly take the top S ahead of several of the fringe talents to even enter the draft at positions like RB and WR.

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Why are you so high on a guy that has had such limited opportunities? That's pretty big praise for a guy that doesn't have much of a track record, especially compared to guys like Blackmon and Floyd.
I've got a really bad man crush here. Not a big fan of Blackmon, he's (to me) a WR2 with a slim chance of WR1 numbers. I like Floyd (a lot). I think K Wright does not have the skill set to dominate, more like a contributor. A Jefferey (to me at least) does not have a high ceiling. Hill has something that you can't teach and that is size & speed. Mike Wallace had the same effect on me when he came into the league. GT did not really use Hill that often, still baffled by it.
Thing that scares me is that many more informed than me have said he can't catch very well in traffic (i.e. not the combine) and doesn't play as fast as he times.
I keep hearing people say this, but I'm not seeing any substance behind the opinion. Hill is very much an enigma if you ask me. He could be a Pro Bowler or could be a 4th stringer in a few years.

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

I'm just curious. Why are you so high on a guy that has had such limited opportunities? That's pretty big praise for a guy that doesn't have much of a track record, especially compared to guys like Blackmon and Floyd.
I've got a really bad man crush here. Not a big fan of Blackmon, he's (to me) a WR2 with a slim chance of WR1 numbers. I like Floyd (a lot). I think K Wright does not have the skill set to dominate, more like a contributor. A Jefferey (to me at least) does not have a high ceiling. Hill has something that you can't teach and that is size & speed. Mike Wallace had the same effect on me when he came into the league. GT did not really use Hill that often, still baffled by it.
Thing that scares me is that many more informed than me have said he can't catch very well in traffic (i.e. not the combine) and doesn't play as fast as he times.
I keep hearing people say this, but I'm not seeing any substance behind the opinion. Hill is very much an enigma if you ask me. He could be a Pro Bowler or could be a 4th stringer in a few years.
4th stringer IMO. Limited route tree, questionable hands, doesn't play as physical as he should, not quick in and out of breaks, questionable deep ball skills. One trick pony...go deep.

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Like where you have Mychal Kendricks and Zach Brown (not yet listed).Hoping we can find a place for Bobby Wagner and Demario Davis in the 30-60 range after the draft.Whitney Mercilus has me nervous, but I understand the argument. Can't see ranking Coples behind him if both are drafted to play 4-3 DE, though.

Do you also have Hightower a tier beneath Kendricks?
I'm nowhere near as bold as Bloom. :) I'll do scouting capsules and comps, but I'm not comfortable doing fantasy rankings/tiers until these guys get drafted.I have my eye on Luke Kuechly, Donta Hightower, Mychal Kendricks, Lavonte David, Zach Brown, Bobby Wagner, Demario Davis and James-Michael Johnson as potential every-down linebacker targets with enough upside to rank in the top 2-3 tiers of fantasy linebackers.

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Hill intrigues me, the first name that comes to mind is Terrell Owens. Here's the highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQWb4NXvJc

What impresses me most is the pure physicality, running people over, stiffarms, body position going up for the ball. And you just cant teach what you see at 1:10 in, that range makes my mouth water. He's obviously dangerous on the go route, but he's gonna be a beast in the red zone, and is also a danger to blow up a bubble screen at any moment. Definitely unpolished but the things he is missing are things that potentially can be learned... but better yet they aren't necessary to still be an impact player from day one. If he's the kind of guy that flourishes on the biggest stages (like most of the great ones do), he could be another TO in his prime. Of course he could also end up on the scrap heap.

That being said, for where you could get him he could be an absolute grandslam- I think the other WRs in this draft just dont have that kind of ceiling (although there are some very quality guys), and granted a lot of them dont have as low a floor. I like to gamble on the most bang for your buck with rookie WR- I can usually find the more pedestrian guys elsewhere. You don't need to hit on Dwayne Bowe or Hakeem Nicks or Mike Wallace too often to do a huge amount of damage, and after the first one or two or three top WRs the cost drop off is usually substantial.

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Hill intrigues me, the first name that comes to mind is Terrell Owens. Here's the highlight reel:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQWb4NXvJcWhat impresses me most is the pure physicality, running people over, stiffarms, body position going up for the ball. And you just cant teach what you see at 1:10 in, that range makes my mouth water. He's obviously dangerous on the go route, but he's gonna be a beast in the red zone, and is also a danger to blow up a bubble screen at any moment. Definitely unpolished but the things he is missing are things that potentially can be learned... but better yet they aren't necessary to still be an impact player from day one. If he's the kind of guy that flourishes on the biggest stages (like most of the great ones do), he could be another TO in his prime. Of course he could also end up on the scrap heap. That being said, for where you could get him he could be an absolute grandslam- I think the other WRs in this draft just dont have that kind of ceiling (although there are some very quality guys), and granted a lot of them dont have as low a floor. I like to gamble on the most bang for your buck with rookie WR- I can usually find the more pedestrian guys elsewhere. You don't need to hit on Dwayne Bowe or Hakeem Nicks or Mike Wallace too often to do a huge amount of damage, and after the first one or two or three top WRs the cost drop off is usually substantial.

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Hill intrigues me, the first name that comes to mind is Terrell Owens. Here's the highlight reel:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kQWb4NXvJcWhat impresses me most is the pure physicality, running people over, stiffarms, body position going up for the ball. And you just cant teach what you see at 1:10 in, that range makes my mouth water. He's obviously dangerous on the go route, but he's gonna be a beast in the red zone, and is also a danger to blow up a bubble screen at any moment. Definitely unpolished but the things he is missing are things that potentially can be learned... but better yet they aren't necessary to still be an impact player from day one. If he's the kind of guy that flourishes on the biggest stages (like most of the great ones do), he could be another TO in his prime. Of course he could also end up on the scrap heap. That being said, for where you could get him he could be an absolute grandslam- I think the other WRs in this draft just dont have that kind of ceiling (although there are some very quality guys), and granted a lot of them dont have as low a floor. I like to gamble on the most bang for your buck with rookie WR- I can usually find the more pedestrian guys elsewhere. You don't need to hit on Dwayne Bowe or Hakeem Nicks or Mike Wallace too often to do a huge amount of damage, and after the first one or two or three top WRs the cost drop off is usually substantial.

That's his entire highlight film from college. He still looks stiff, not much quick twitch, not physical enough, and he stiff armed a D3 player. His best season is 28 receptions in college. Blackmon, Sanu, Criner, Wright, Floyd, etc have had almost every season in college above that total.His short shuttle is 4.48, which was the worst at the combine by .12!!! This means his short area quickness, in and out of routes isn't good.

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Lot of momentum going toward RGIII over Luck. I'm sticking with Luck.

I can't argue too vigorously against that. In general, 2-7 is pretty tight. Griffin just has more of a big play game as a runner and deep passer, which translates better to fantasy, but Luck is bust-proof and a great runner in his own right.
But if Griffin runs anywhere near as often as Newton did as a rookie, he's going to get killed. Newton is much bigger, and I don't think even he can possibly keep up that amount of rushing over the long term.
definitely something big he needs to adjust his approach to in pros, but i think he is not a "run first" QB by any stretch. He might be a "leave the pocket quick" guy, which he'll need to work on, but shanny's offense will naturally have him on move a lot to mitigate that. RG3 does consistently look pass first when he breaks the pocket.
RG3 is neither a run 1st or a leave the pocket quick guy. One of his most highly regarded traits is his willingness to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball. His pocket awareness is exceptional for a college QB, regardless of his spread attack. RG3 runs when there are great plays to be made by doing so or if it was designed. I think anyone who expects these great amounts of rushing attempts by him in the NFL are going to be disapointed.
RG3 can and will hang in the pocket, but too often I see him leave the pocket early. I agree that he won't have the rushing attempts of say Vick, but his running ability will definitely enhance his fantasy value more than Luck or Tannehill - who are both very very athletic QB prospects

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I'm not even going to pretend to to level headed, but Stephen Hill is going to pass all the WRs sooner, not later. BTW, who do you see as his NFL comp? Thanks!

at his best, calvin johnson, at his worst, troy williamson

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Wylie hype is getting our of control. This is a guy who is going to struggle to adapt to the NFL IMO. He is undersized and lacks any physicallity to his play. It's nice to be fast and quick, but you also have to be able to play through restrictions to get open in the NFL. He is going to need a lot of work to ever come anything remotely close to Welker.

i would say he has plenty of physicality. he's a punt returner and generally a rugged player who doesnt back down.

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