2nd, Marquise Lee should be #1 - thrilled to have both Safarian-Jenkins looks like a scary TE.Same goes for Duke Johnson and DeAnthony Thomas at RB. If there is a stud QB underclassmen that hasn't been talked much about in the 2013 prospects thread it's Braxton Miller imho. That's what I have off the top of my head.Sammy Watkins rounding into shape - 1st WR taken in 2014.
Gurley, I knew I forgot one, I'd lump him in with Yeldon and Duke for sure. I see separation between those 3 and the rest though, right now anyway.Posted this in the Yeldon thread. There are some very exciting RBs on the horizon. Just off the top of my head; Yeldon, BamaGray, TexasD. Johnson, MiaGurley, GeorgiaMarshall, GeorgiaHill, LSUI'm sure I've missed a few. These guys look very good. Hopefully they have better luck than Lattimore.
Been reading some great things about him, anxious to see him against a real defense and hope he gets that shot in the bowl game. His yards per completion and TD + TD:INT rates have been very encouraging week to week.The QB to watch is Louisville's Teddy Bridgewater. Great chance for him to be the #1 pick in 2014.
Like.....Michael Dyer???And that's without factoring in injuries and off-field incidents, which have derailed quite a few promising careers in the past few years.
Yea, sure. He was every bit as good as Lattimore or your boy Yeldon as a true freshman. It's happened to lots of other guys too. Isaiah Crowell, Bryce Brown, Washaun Ealey. Brown is already in the league and I'd bet on Dyer and Crowell finding their way onto an NFL roster some day, but needless to say there have been some bumps in the road.Like.....Michael Dyer???And that's without factoring in injuries and off-field incidents, which have derailed quite a few promising careers in the past few years.
Heh. Was just a jab considering your overposting of Dyer's situation. Found it funny someone called you out on it and this time you just refer to his situation and don't explicitly name Dyer. That's all.Yea, sure. He was every bit as good as Lattimore or your boy Yeldon as a true freshman. It's happened to lots of other guys too. Isaiah Crowell, Bryce Brown, Washaun Ealey. Brown is already in the league and I'd bet on Dyer and Crowell finding their way onto an NFL roster some day, but needless to say there have been some bumps in the road.Like.....Michael Dyer???And that's without factoring in injuries and off-field incidents, which have derailed quite a few promising careers in the past few years.
He's one of the names on my 10-15 player short list for 2014. He has a lot of talent. Not Richardson/Peterson talent, but maybe enough to start on Sundays. Off-field issues are one of the few things that will scare owners into selling/avoiding legit talents, so I actually think it's a good time to pounce when someone is suspended or dealing with some kind of legal situation. Crowell could be a nice value for next year.I'm still holding onto Isaiah Crowell in one league. Any news on his gun charge? I can't seem to find any.Looks like he is keeping a low profile and posting decent numbers at Alabama State according to his wikipedia page (114-615-12 rushing, 8-81-0 receiving).
What was behind his suspension early this year?Sammy Watkins rounding into shape - 1st WR taken in 2014.
Crowell has massive talent and could have at one point easily started on Sundays. The problem is he's lazy and a head case. Not a good combination. I have no confidence he will do anything in the NFL.He's one of the names on my 10-15 player short list for 2014. He has a lot of talent. Not Richardson/Peterson talent, but maybe enough to start on Sundays. Off-field issues are one of the few things that will scare owners into selling/avoiding legit talents, so I actually think it's a good time to pounce when someone is suspended or dealing with some kind of legal situation. Crowell could be a nice value for next year.I'm still holding onto Isaiah Crowell in one league. Any news on his gun charge? I can't seem to find any.Looks like he is keeping a low profile and posting decent numbers at Alabama State according to his wikipedia page (114-615-12 rushing, 8-81-0 receiving).
Got pulled over in a car with marijuana.What was behind his suspension early this year?Sammy Watkins rounding into shape - 1st WR taken in 2014.
Manziel is going to be a household name in NCAA like Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy when his career is finished, but I don't know if he's got the chops for the next level. He feasts on bad teams, but struggled with LSU's athletic D and doesn't appear to have a rocket arm or awesome pure passing ability. He is certainly a guy to monitor, but I'd hesitate to call him much more than that at this point.There seems to be a lot more athletic QBs putting up great passing statistics these days. Johnny Manziel from Texas A&M is putting up better passing stats as a redshirt Freshman than Tannehill ever did in college, and Manziel is also averaging over 100 yards rushing a game. Redshirt freshman QB Brett Hundley from UCLA is also someone to keep an eye on.
You will not find a BiGGER fan of Watkins but Marqise Lee will be pushing for that #1 spot!!Sammy Watkins rounding into shape - 1st WR taken in 2014.
Tannehill feasted on bad teams last year himself, and his CMP% and YPA were both far inferior to Manziel's CMP% and YPA so far this year. Manziel is just a redshirt Freshman, so I'm not too worried about his struggles against LSU, especially since they have probably the best pass defense in the country; and he did tear up Mississippi State through the air this past week and their defense is pretty solid. It'll be interesting to see how he does against Alabama on Saturday. I probably wouldn't have liked Manziel all that much even just last year, but the way Russell Wilson has been able to succeed as a rookie makes me think Manziel definitely has a chance, although I admit Manziel's arm strength is a pretty big question mark at this point.'EBF said:Manziel is going to be a household name in NCAA like Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy when his career is finished, but I don't know if he's got the chops for the next level. He feasts on bad teams, but struggled with LSU's athletic D and doesn't appear to have a rocket arm or awesome pure passing ability. He is certainly a guy to monitor, but I'd hesitate to call him much more than that at this point.'Time Kibitzer said:There seems to be a lot more athletic QBs putting up great passing statistics these days. Johnny Manziel from Texas A&M is putting up better passing stats as a redshirt Freshman than Tannehill ever did in college, and Manziel is also averaging over 100 yards rushing a game. Redshirt freshman QB Brett Hundley from UCLA is also someone to keep an eye on.
That's gonna be a great debate heading into next year. Personally I like Lee, but it could go either way.You will not find a BiGGER fan of Watkins but Marqise Lee will be pushing for that #1 spot!!Sammy Watkins rounding into shape - 1st WR taken in 2014.
Pretty good D he's facing today.Doing pretty well. So far, anyways.Manziel is going to be a household name in NCAA like Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy when his career is finished, but I don't know if he's got the chops for the next level. He feasts on bad teams, but struggled with LSU's athletic D and doesn't appear to have a rocket arm or awesome pure passing ability. He is certainly a guy to monitor, but I'd hesitate to call him much more than that at this point.There seems to be a lot more athletic QBs putting up great passing statistics these days. Johnny Manziel from Texas A&M is putting up better passing stats as a redshirt Freshman than Tannehill ever did in college, and Manziel is also averaging over 100 yards rushing a game. Redshirt freshman QB Brett Hundley from UCLA is also someone to keep an eye on.
If you wanna roll with an sc wideout, go ahead. They have a history of underperforming. Plus Watkins is bigger, stronger and faster.Marqise Lee > Sammy Watkins
I'll take their track record against Clemson's.If you wanna roll with an sc wideout, go ahead. They have a history of underperforming.Marqise Lee > Sammy Watkins
Better straight line speed. That's about it. Lee is a more fluid athlete and a better jump ball receiver.Plus Watkins is bigger, stronger and faster.
All of the defenses in college are soft. It's amateur football. Even in the Pac-12 or SEC, 95% of the guys out there will never amount to much in the NFL.I've been watching USC off and on for about ~10 years. Lee is the best pro prospect they have had at WR in that time. Williams and Jarrett were good at the college level, but neither could run like Lee. He will be a very good NFL player. Maybe not a top 5 guy, but certainly an above average starter. I think he's like a more athletic Greg Jennings.'BruceAlmighty said:I've just always thought sc wideouts are equivalent to Nick Saban db's. Everyone slobbers all over them and they all let you down in the pros. They look great against PAC-12 defs, but that isn't saying much. Lee does look freakish, but I've seen this movie before.
Lee is the best WR prospect since AJ Green. He will be a great NFL player. Previous SC WRs have nothing to do with this. Lee is amazing.All of the defenses in college are soft. It's amateur football. Even in the Pac-12 or SEC, 95% of the guys out there will never amount to much in the NFL.I've been watching USC off and on for about ~10 years. Lee is the best pro prospect they have had at WR in that time. Williams and Jarrett were good at the college level, but neither could run like Lee. He will be a very good NFL player. Maybe not a top 5 guy, but certainly an above average starter. I think he's like a more athletic Greg Jennings.'BruceAlmighty said:I've just always thought sc wideouts are equivalent to Nick Saban db's. Everyone slobbers all over them and they all let you down in the pros. They look great against PAC-12 defs, but that isn't saying much. Lee does look freakish, but I've seen this movie before.
I thought he stood out in today's game as well, even without putting up a huge box score. He's tall with long arms, catches the ball with his hands, and was able to get a step on the DBs quite frequently. Definitely an NFL prospect to keep an eye on.Manziel also played quite well against Alabama, that's 2 weeks in a row he's had success against a tough SEC defense.Mike Evans, WR Texas A&M. Guy is a huge target at a listed 6'5". He's shown better ball skills than the draft-eligible big WR's Brandon Coleman and Marcus Davis.
He's a Redshirt Freshman, so that means he's draft eligible next year.
Very, very nice game overall by Manziel.Not a weak defense either.'identikit said:Pretty good D he's facing today.Doing pretty well. So far, anyways.Manziel is going to be a household name in NCAA like Tim Tebow or Colt McCoy when his career is finished, but I don't know if he's got the chops for the next level. He feasts on bad teams, but struggled with LSU's athletic D and doesn't appear to have a rocket arm or awesome pure passing ability. He is certainly a guy to monitor, but I'd hesitate to call him much more than that at this point.There seems to be a lot more athletic QBs putting up great passing statistics these days. Johnny Manziel from Texas A&M is putting up better passing stats as a redshirt Freshman than Tannehill ever did in college, and Manziel is also averaging over 100 yards rushing a game. Redshirt freshman QB Brett Hundley from UCLA is also someone to keep an eye on.