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Hernandez convicted of first-degree murder; found deceased in his cell. (2 Viewers)

Sarnoff said:
Amused to Death said:
Sarnoff said:
If he standing there screaming "No! Don't! Stop it!" and another guy pulls the trigger, boom, not guilty.
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This is exactly how it happened. We can tell by how cooperative he's been with the police and not acting suspicious and stuff.
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The best thing for an innocent person to do nowadays is lawyer up and not cooperate with police. Let them go to court with their crappy case and then blow it out of the water once the defense gets its shot. It's what our legal system has sadly become. The US court system is b###s###.

Especially if the police have shown no interest in hearing the truth, rather, are only interested in nailing the biggest pelt to their wall.
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You forgot destroying your cell phone and your home security system. All things that may incriminate you actually.

 
AH will be found not guilty... watch. This great evidence the cops think they have will come crashing down as soon as his attorneys start to cross examine the "star" defense wtinesses.

 
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Amused to Death said:
Sarnoff said:
Amused to Death said:
Sarnoff said:
If he standing there screaming "No! Don't! Stop it!" and another guy pulls the trigger, boom, not guilty.
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This is exactly how it happened. We can tell by how cooperative he's been with the police and not acting suspicious and stuff.
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The best thing for an innocent person to do nowadays is lawyer up and not cooperate with police. Let them go to court with their crappy case and then blow it out of the water once the defense gets its shot. It's what our legal system has sadly become. The US court system is b###s###.

Especially if the police have shown no interest in hearing the truth, rather, are only interested in nailing the biggest pelt to their wall.
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You forgot destroying your cell phone and your home security system. All things that may incriminate you actually.
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I said above he panicked. He was in the presence of a murder and his natural reaction was to distance himself from it. He immediately went into "how do we fix this??" mode before he was able to regain rational thinking. Doesn't make him a murderer and it doesn't make him part of a joint venture.

 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
cobalt_27 said:
I love how this is STILL in the shark pool.

Awesome. Great work, mods.
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The Shark Pool is reserved for sharing NFL talk and fantasy football strategy discussion.
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This is NFL talk. Topic is where it should be.
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You haven't read this thread in the past month, apparently. This topic has zero NFL relevance now, and certainly with the direction the thread has taken, it's even worse.

 
cobalt_27 said:
You haven't read this thread in the past month, apparently. This topic has zero NFL relevance now, and certainly with the direction the thread has taken, it's even worse.
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There's truth to what you say, but eventually we will get more serious AH news in here. Better keeping this one than starting a new thread when it happens.

 
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GordonGekko said:
Any talk of him coming back by one season or even two at this point, I think is grossly and overly optimistic.
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Whole post was great. On this point, there is no chance he plays at all. Ever, let alone 2 years. Even if he gets away with murder, the perception problem is insurmountable. He is dead to the NFL.

And he'll be in jail, anyway, so all this thread is useful for now is Sarnoff fishing and rookies biting on his bait.

 
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Time to start a league safe account/betting pool, so people can bet on AH's future. Talk is cheap. Back it up with Cash.

 
cobalt_27 said:
I love how this is STILL in the shark pool.
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This is still an NFL issue.

The thread has recently become mostly a place to fish with stinky bait, but (I hope) that's temporary: whenever there's any actual news on this subject again, this should be a decent place to discuss it.

 
GordonGekko said:
cobalt_27 said:
GordonGekko said:
Any talk of him coming back by one season or even two at this point, I think is grossly and overly optimistic.
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Whole post was great. On this point, there is no chance he plays at all. Ever, let alone 2 years. Even if he gets away with murder, the perception problem is insurmountable. He is dead to the NFL.

And he'll be in jail, anyway, so all this thread is useful for now is Sarnoff fishing and rookies biting on his bait.
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I think the distinction some people in this thread are making is contention with the terms "never" or "ever". From a legal standpoint, that's probably not true.

I would say the practical demarcation is 30-31 years of age. With it being more likely at 30 years of age than not. If Hernandez is fully reinstated by the league by then, assuming he is cleared completely of the murder charges and serves his time for his gun offenses and NFL suspension, he might have a year or two in the tank.

"No chance" tends to infer a lifetime ban from the game. That issue runs a lot deeper and bloodier than Hernandez, that becomes an issue of labor rights and players rights to the union. The owners can push the players union far, yes, that's true, but there is only so much you can push them without cornering them into no choice but to fight to maintain the perception of their legitimacy. Without the perception of the union's legitimacy, the owners have no means of control.

Put it this way, the elders of a town hire a Sheriff. They handpick him out of many candidates. Every now and then, the Sheriff finds a malcontent to challenges the Sheriff's authority, so the Sheriff drags the malcontent on the back of horse out to the desert and beats him to a pulp. Now maybe the elders of the town aren't so happy that the Sheriff is such a mean ##### about things at times, but selecting him is an extension of their authority, and to usurp his decision making is to undermine their own selection. If they choose to belittle him and punish him too harshly in public, it lends to a bad perception of his authority, and now he is unable to carry out their wishes and their methodology of control.

The owners need the union to keep the players in line. To do that, they must recognize and empower the union to some degree. Not a ton, but enough to keep order. The union cannot keep order if the owners start a labor issue over a players right to earn in the league regarding suspensions. Again, it's not about Hernandez anymore, it's about the larger perception and labor issue in play. Too many people here talk about the league without actually considering basic league politics. It's not as simple as saying, "Screw you Hernandez, you never ever play again"

If Hernandez eats the murder beef, yes, a lifetime ban is likely and probable.

If Hernandez walks on the murder beef, but has to eat the gun charges, then no, a lifetime ban is not very likely and not very probable. Now most teams probably won't want the distraction and headache and blackball him anyway, but he will be able to apply for reinstatement, offer his appeal and have the union have no choice but to represent some of his interests.

It's tough to say in 5 years if Hernandez would be dead to the NFL if he beats the murder beef ( and he just might, anyone who is calling this a slam dunk for life case simply is as overly optimistic and those who say he will be starting for the Raiders next year) The Patriots passing offense is a very difficult one. It requires synching at, not just the technical level, but also on a creative level for all the variable options. For a very young player to perform at Hernandez's level requires a very high football IQ. He might be dumb as rocks about being a criminal mastermind, but the kid can seriously ball. Strictly as a receiver, he has very good technique, good footwork, a nice ability to use his body in space. There are many elements to Hernandez strictly as a player that are valuable even with eroded athleticism. But again, he will be for a long time without NFL training and world class medical care and nutrition. And while he's stagnant, he's also accumulating zero to no tread on his body for the duration. He will be older if he gets out but he won't have the same attrition as a comparable NFL player at his age.

1 to 2 years = A very reactionary response, with almost no regard for understanding league politics, the legal system or PR at any level.

Never ever and forever wrapped in a corn tortilla = A very reactionary response, at this point.

Let's wait and let the process unfold and then we can see if he has any semblance of an NFL career left.
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He has none. How much does physical ability erode sitting in a cell for a decade? A young Aaron Hernandez had potential, but in actuality, he was starting to look a little injury prone and hadn't really put it all together. He is not walking out of prison with a little pixie dust and salvaging an NFL career. Time and a stream of younger players will have passed him by...

 
GordonGekko said:
cobalt_27 said:
GordonGekko said:
Any talk of him coming back by one season or even two at this point, I think is grossly and overly optimistic.
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Whole post was great. On this point, there is no chance he plays at all. Ever, let alone 2 years. Even if he gets away with murder, the perception problem is insurmountable. He is dead to the NFL.

And he'll be in jail, anyway, so all this thread is useful for now is Sarnoff fishing and rookies biting on his bait.
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I think the distinction some people in this thread are making is contention with the terms "never" or "ever". From a legal standpoint, that's probably not true.

I would say the practical demarcation is 30-31 years of age. With it being more likely at 30 years of age than not. If Hernandez is fully reinstated by the league by then, assuming he is cleared completely of the murder charges and serves his time for his gun offenses and NFL suspension, he might have a year or two in the tank.

"No chance" tends to infer a lifetime ban from the game. That issue runs a lot deeper and bloodier than Hernandez, that becomes an issue of labor rights and players rights to the union. The owners can push the players union far, yes, that's true, but there is only so much you can push them without cornering them into no choice but to fight to maintain the perception of their legitimacy. Without the perception of the union's legitimacy, the owners have no means of control.

Put it this way, the elders of a town hire a Sheriff. They handpick him out of many candidates. Every now and then, the Sheriff finds a malcontent to challenges the Sheriff's authority, so the Sheriff drags the malcontent on the back of horse out to the desert and beats him to a pulp. Now maybe the elders of the town aren't so happy that the Sheriff is such a mean ##### about things at times, but selecting him is an extension of their authority, and to usurp his decision making is to undermine their own selection. If they choose to belittle him and punish him too harshly in public, it lends to a bad perception of his authority, and now he is unable to carry out their wishes and their methodology of control.

The owners need the union to keep the players in line. To do that, they must recognize and empower the union to some degree. Not a ton, but enough to keep order. The union cannot keep order if the owners start a labor issue over a players right to earn in the league regarding suspensions. Again, it's not about Hernandez anymore, it's about the larger perception and labor issue in play. Too many people here talk about the league without actually considering basic league politics. It's not as simple as saying, "Screw you Hernandez, you never ever play again"

If Hernandez eats the murder beef, yes, a lifetime ban is likely and probable.

If Hernandez walks on the murder beef, but has to eat the gun charges, then no, a lifetime ban is not very likely and not very probable. Now most teams probably won't want the distraction and headache and blackball him anyway, but he will be able to apply for reinstatement, offer his appeal and have the union have no choice but to represent some of his interests.

It's tough to say in 5 years if Hernandez would be dead to the NFL if he beats the murder beef ( and he just might, anyone who is calling this a slam dunk for life case simply is as overly optimistic and those who say he will be starting for the Raiders next year) The Patriots passing offense is a very difficult one. It requires synching at, not just the technical level, but also on a creative level for all the variable options. For a very young player to perform at Hernandez's level requires a very high football IQ. He might be dumb as rocks about being a criminal mastermind, but the kid can seriously ball. Strictly as a receiver, he has very good technique, good footwork, a nice ability to use his body in space. There are many elements to Hernandez strictly as a player that are valuable even with eroded athleticism. But again, he will be for a long time without NFL training and world class medical care and nutrition. And while he's stagnant, he's also accumulating zero to no tread on his body for the duration. He will be older if he gets out but he won't have the same attrition as a comparable NFL player at his age.

1 to 2 years = A very reactionary response, with almost no regard for understanding league politics, the legal system or PR at any level.

Never ever and forever wrapped in a corn tortilla = A very reactionary response, at this point.

Let's wait and let the process unfold and then we can see if he has any semblance of an NFL career left.
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In my view, "no chance" has nothing whatsoever to do with this lifetime ban question. That won't be necessary.

Assume he beats the murder charge, the damage has been done. No team is going to sign this guy. Ever. Under any circumstances. His past exploits of thuggery have greater exposure now (and we will learn a lot more about this during his trial). And even if we imagine a best-case scenario for him, say a Michael Vick sort of trajectory, the bottom line is he doesn't play QB. His positive contributions to a team at TE is trivial compared to the absolute #### storm that would follow a team if they were to sign him.

Forget the labor deal, CBA, or any outcome from his murder trial. This guy is never strapping on the cleats in an NFL stadium ever again.

 
Yeah I think its time to move this thread out of the SP. Hernandez will never play in the NFL again. Would rather have another bump Finley thread than have to scroll past this thread every day.

 
BroadwayG said:
another reason why unions stink. They defend mass murderres.
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They're not defending him. They're on offense here, not defense. The reason to hate unions is that they think mass murderers should not have their employment contracts breached.

 
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Maurile Tremblay said:
BroadwayG said:
another reason why unions stink. They defend mass murderres.
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They're not defending him. They're on offense here, not defense. The reason to hate unions is that they think mass murderers should not have their employment contracts breached.
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Did you mean Mass. when you said mass?

 
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.

 
what's the big deal on the thread, it is an nfl story and still could impact the pats cap

no one is forcing anyone to come in here

i find the newest twist from the union to be quite fascinating

i am confused at why a bonus at the end of the season would be in question if they have already released him

 
Is the single line that this thread takes up THAT worrisome to you guys? geez, don't click on it man. I don't roam outside of the SP, so personally I enjoy checking in on this every now and then. I think its still a football related story and would be annoyed if it was moved to another location.

 
B-Deep said:
what's the big deal on the thread, it is an nfl story and still could impact the pats cap

no one is forcing anyone to come in here

i find the newest twist from the union to be quite fascinating

i am confused at why a bonus at the end of the season would be in question if they have already released him
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If you're referring to the bonus meant to be paid in March 2014, it is part of his signing bonus. As long as he didn't breach his contract he is due that money even if the team releases him.

The team is going to argue he breached his contract which led to the release. If he breached it, the team wouldn't be on the hook for any prorated portion for years he didn't play because of the breach. If they'd paid him the whole signing bonus up front in one payment, they'd be suing him to get the money back. Instead they are going to refuse to give him the money and he'll have to sue them to get them to pay.

Replace "sue" with "file a grievance or otherwise litigate" as appropriate.

 
To see how little people actually know about law and how they are bias about everything always gives me less hope for society.

 
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cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
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Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.

 
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The NFL Network is still giving this story plenty of run, so clearly this is still a football related story which still hasn't had all of the chapters come to light just yet. It is fascinating, as it is an exceptionally rare occurrence in pro sports to have this depth of serious criminal activity be alleged against an active (at the time) professional athlete.

The NFL Network had a defense attorney on as a guest this morning, and on the original charges, he stated that he thought the prosecution would have a tough case to prove as they still don't have the gun, they have no DNA evidence, and the two witnesses against him have struck deals and they are are not exactly upstanding citizens either. In essence, he felt that it was still a very circumstantial case. Now keep in mind, a defense attorney will see things differently then the prosecution will, and I think that Hernandez won't ever see an NFL field again as a player, so his NFK career is over and value in fantasy football purposes is near worthless, but there is still some interest level in keeping this thread in the Shark Pool.

Ultimately you don't have to click on this thread, so if the subject matter isn't interesting or relevant to you, don't open this one and waste your time in it!

 
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Faust said:
The NFL Network is still giving this story plenty of run, so clearly this is still a football related story which still hasn't had all of the chapters come to light just yet. It is fascinating, as it is an exceptionally rare occurrence in pro sports to have this depth of serious criminal activity be alleged against an active (at the time) professional athlete.

The NFL Network had a defense attorney on as a guest this morning, and on the original charges, he stated that he thought the prosecution would have a tough case to prove as they still don't have the gun, they have no DNA evidence, and the two witnesses against him have struck deals and are whore are not exactly upstanding citizens either. In essence, he felt that it was still a very circumstantial case. Now keep in mind, a defense attorney will see things differently then the prosecution will, and I think that Hernandez won't ever see an NFL field again as a player, so his NFK career is over and value in fantasy football purposes is near worthless, but there is still some interest level in keeping this thread in the Shark Pool.

Ultimately you don't have to click on this thread, so if the subject matter isn't interesting or relevant to you, don't open this one and waste your time in it!
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Now Faust, I know you make all the news that makes it to the Internet :) but you're saying these two witnesses are whores? LOL

 
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
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Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
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I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.

 
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
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I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
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As long as you hang up.

 
GoBirds said:
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
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I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
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As long as you hang up.
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Once this thread gets moved to its rightful place, I will. :hifive:

Your turn.

 
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
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I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
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i'll go with the simple one that was JUST revealed

the patriots (a real life active NFL team) may or may not have to pay him a bonus, and there is already an NFLPA grievance about money he may be owed

go ahead and argue the patriots finances egarding players are not football relevant

I'll hang up and listen

 
B-Deep said:
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
Click to expand...
I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
Click to expand...
i'll go with the simple one that was JUST revealed

the patriots (a real life active NFL team) may or may not have to pay him a bonus, and there is already an NFLPA grievance about money he may be owed

go ahead and argue the patriots finances egarding players are not football relevant

I'll hang up and listen
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Oh sure, there's a great place to discuss the Patriots and their finances:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685020&hl=patriots#entry15790582

 
cobalt_27 said:
B-Deep said:
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
Click to expand...
I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
Click to expand...
i'll go with the simple one that was JUST revealed

the patriots (a real life active NFL team) may or may not have to pay him a bonus, and there is already an NFLPA grievance about money he may be owed

go ahead and argue the patriots finances egarding players are not football relevant

I'll hang up and listen
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Oh sure, there's a great place to discuss the Patriots and their finances:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685020&hl=patriots#entry15790582
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the question was not could everything here be dicussed somewhere else

we could just have 32 threads one for each team and be done

i did just prove how hernandez is NFL relevant

i love how much effort you put into this travestmockery of a thread though

 
B-Deep said:
cobalt_27 said:
B-Deep said:
cobalt_27 said:
Phenix said:
cobalt_27 said:
I suppose the mods here are intent on keeping this thread in the SP until...when? He dies?

Why the special treatment? He is an irrelevant football story now. It's actually comical at this point with all the Serious Business about thread and posting guidelines stressed with such vigor in the past.
Click to expand...
Does it matter, you don't like it, don't click.

Same ignorant logic about people crying when they get hurt in football.

You don't like the risk, don't play. You don't want to read this thread, don't click it.

This has everything to do with football, because you dont want to read it does not change that.
Click to expand...
I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football? The fact that he played in the past does not mean he is relevant today or in the future.

Go ahead. I'll hang up and listen.
Click to expand...
i'll go with the simple one that was JUST revealed

the patriots (a real life active NFL team) may or may not have to pay him a bonus, and there is already an NFLPA grievance about money he may be owed

go ahead and argue the patriots finances egarding players are not football relevant

I'll hang up and listen
Click to expand...
Oh sure, there's a great place to discuss the Patriots and their finances:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=685020&hl=patriots#entry15790582
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the question was not could everything here be dicussed somewhere else

we could just have 32 threads one for each team and be done

i did just prove how hernandez is NFL relevant

i love how much effort you put into this travestmockery of a thread though
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No, this is a great place to discuss individual players, fantasy football, blah blah blah. But, we're talking about a court case now, not an NFL football player. He's irrelevant. His career is over, even if acquitted, which clearly won't happen. But, even if he got the OJS treatment, no team ever would sign Hernandez. Ever. Forget Sarnoff Shtick, just think through this logically. No team will ever put this guy in uniform.

He's done. So, if we're discussing a court case, it's an FFA deal.

 
The outcome of this event and subsequent legal proceedings will further push character scrutiny to the forefront for NFL teams as they evaluate draft eligible players, free agents, and their own rosters.

I welcome any and all postings in this thread to any discussion and links to articles talking about the impact that the Hernandez saga will have on all NFL teams, thus making the topic very NFL relevant.

 
cobalt_27 said:
I challenge you to create any argument that Hernandez is relevant to football?
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The precedent set by Goodell and the Patriots in handling this matter, as related to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and its potential chilling effects on future events; i.e. is having a player like Ray Lewis, Marvin Harrison, Rae Carruth, etc. on your dynasty team a greater risk now? Should I worry about having picked up Ausar Walcott in my IDP rookie draft? What could they now do to Michael Vick if he steps out of line again?

Hernandez was railroaded out of the league based on no actual evidence, just charges filed. What if someone implicates Tyler Bray or Cordarrelle Patterson in a crime, should we expect the NFLPA to roll over again?

 
Faust said:
The outcome of this event and subsequent legal proceedings will further push character scrutiny to the forefront for NFL teams as they evaluate draft eligible players, free agents, and their own rosters.

I welcome any and all postings in this thread to any discussion and links to articles talking about the impact that the Hernandez saga will have on all NFL teams, thus making the topic very NFL relevant.
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When Geno Smith comes off suspension, how does that impact the Patriots?

 
cobalt_27 said:
Faust said:
Aaron Hernandez case changing NFL draft evaluations

In wake of Hernandez, NFL teams will investigate tattoos

Carolina Panthers, other NFL teams delve deeper into player backgrounds
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Yeah, well this would all make for a credible argument if, you know...people were actually discussing this here. But, this is all about the court case and a platform for Sarnoff to engage in his shtick.
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Evveryone else is OK with it....except you....think about it for a couple minutes.

 
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MSM Silent As Drunk Driver Released After Killing Teenager He Falsely Accused Of Being A "Republican Extremist" (10/4/22 16:34 PST)
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