Limp Ditka said:
skillz said:
One way of looking at failing to resign Max is it frees up more money to resign Miggy- which is a far more important signing IMO. If he hits the market I highly doubt he resigns with Det.
I wouldn't want to be one signing checks for a 33-38 YO Miggy.
I think Cabrera will be just fine well into his 30s, guy can hit like no one else. Will he be worth $30 million a year then? Maybe not, but the Tigers have no choice but to keep him. They began negotiating with him after Scherzer decided he'd like to hit the open market, maybe a 7/220? He's going to be the highest paid player until Trout signs a long-term deal, and he'll be worth the money for most of his contract if he's healthy IMO.
I would love to see it, but after watching that body appear to start breaking down (Yes. I know he still had an OPS north of 1.000) last year, I think there's reason to be concerned
Hopefully the move to first slows down the wear and tear.
How many long term big money deal actually work out for the team?
How do you think the first $130 million we have spent on Cabrera has fared?
Jeter, Manny Ramirez, and Helton contracts all worked out well for their teams. It happens.
Helton's deal was terrible for the Rockies. The specifics are buried in a number of extensions, deferral and re-negotiations but he signed his big deal in 2001 before his age 27 season. He earned his pay for the first four years (two of which were bought out arb years at a lower salary) before the wheels came off. By the time the really big money kicked in 2006, he was 32 and in decline. He never again hit 20 HR and only had one 4+ WAR season in his last eight years with the club. During those eight years, the Rockies paid him $115M with another $13M in deferred money still outstanding.
Cabrera's
next deal will start at his age 33 season. I'd be very afraid. He's a great hitter and has been durable, but he's human. The PED era distorted the normal aging curve. Nutrition and conditioning are better than ever before but I still think expecting (and paying for) all-star production beyond age 35 isn't wise.
That's why you give him a deal that includes the next two years, then you spread the risk out over less time in his younger peak years.
As far as Helton, he packed the seats and was always an above average player. He was the face of that franchise and signing guys to contracts in baseball is more than just what goes on between the lines, it is a business decision that impacts the whole franchise. If they can get a deal done now for seven years, I think it's a good move. He'll earn more than what he gets in salary for three of those years for sure, then we'll see. He's not getting Cano's ten years, but he'll get more per year than anyone. I'd guess 7/$200mm.
And I would rather spend the money on the best hitter in baseball than on Scherzer, and I'm the biggest Scherzer homer ever. I was begging the Tigers to re-sign him last year before Verlander, knowing Verlander would definitely come back and that Scherzer was due to bust out. Signing Miggy to a deal after next year isn't the best idea though, for either party. I think they work this out soon.