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Last week before my keto cut. By my math I have 5 pounds of fat to lose for a six pack. Also at an all time high for lean mass. Wife can't stay off me and I have had two random chicks hitting on me in the last week out of nowhere. :flex:
Wow, the progress in this thread is pretty amazing. I'm assuming you're measuring with tape and calipers?
you'll get there. masons used to kill me. Now I do them holding a 25 pound kettle bell for 3 minutes.I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
Just gave it a shot. Easily slipped into a 36". Slightly snug at the waist, but didn't have to suck in my gut to make it. Started out at 40", and that was getting dicey.Able to (barely) fit into a 36" waist jean for the first time in probably 20 years
Holy hell.you'll get there. masons used to kill me. Now I do them holding a 25 pound kettle bell for 3 minutes.I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
Do some upright rows and lawnmowers to help you up your pullup counts.
I would also push your pullups to later in the workout because it uses so many joints it is better to get fully warmed up.
Seems like some more plank movements (other than the pushups) would be another easy way to add core stuff.you'll get there. masons used to kill me. Now I do them holding a 25 pound kettle bell for 3 minutes.I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
Do some upright rows and lawnmowers to help you up your pullup counts.
I would also push your pullups to later in the workout because it uses so many joints it is better to get fully warmed up.
While I don't disagree that eating at a calorie deficit to lose weight works, I believe that the way ones body burns the energy available (stored vs eaten, glucose vs fat) can make a difference in how rapidly weight is lost AND what kind of weight is lost (fat vs lean vs water).
Just gave it a shot. Easily slipped into a 36". Slightly snug at the waist, but didn't have to suck in my gut to make it. Started out at 40", and that was getting dicey.Able to (barely) fit into a 36" waist jean for the first time in probably 20 years
I'm just the opposite. Waist fits fine... Legs and ### are snug.You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
No homo, but how about some before and after pics.culdeus said:
Well these are beginner gains. I had to layoff about 3 months and do mostly cardio and bodyweight stuff to rehab my RC. If anything I'd bet my first measurement was low on LBM and i had less water weight. I hadn't started a creatine cycle at that point.
Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
Started Feb. 10: 227, 38" waist, XL polo shirtsTecumseh said:Just gave it a shot. Easily slipped into a 36". Slightly snug at the waist, but didn't have to suck in my gut to make it. Started out at 40", and that was getting dicey.Keerock said:Able to (barely) fit into a 36" waist jean for the first time in probably 20 years
Started Feb. 10: 227, 38" waist, XL polo shirtsTecumseh said:Just gave it a shot. Easily slipped into a 36". Slightly snug at the waist, but didn't have to suck in my gut to make it. Started out at 40", and that was getting dicey.Keerock said:Able to (barely) fit into a 36" waist jean for the first time in probably 20 years
Today: 188.5, 34" waist, L polo shirts
Still a lot of work to go, but I have loved the progress and MFP has been the tool that has helped me hit these numbers.
I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
Congrats. Sounds like you really like the program and are seeing mad results. I'm going to look into it.
How many competitive marathoners look like Michael Phelps? If lean muscle mass helped distance runners, then distance runners would look like sprinters.I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
Seriously? Did I come across as an ahole or something? If he likes to run, he can run, IDGAF. I'm not trying to stop him or anything. Just thought I'd give him some advice that with the time he already spends, he could do something else and get another ancillary "benefit." I never realized he was a competitive runner who worried about every ounce of weight.How many competitive marathoners look like Michael Phelps? If lean muscle mass helped distance runners, then distance runners would look like sprinters.I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
I don't think you're coming across as an #####. But I think that all of us in this thread have a tendency to filter everybody's experience and goals in this thread through our own (myself included).Seriously? Did I come across as an ahole or something? If he likes to run, he can run, IDGAF. I'm not trying to stop him or anything. Just thought I'd give him some advice that with the time he already spends, he could do something else and get another ancillary "benefit." I never realized he was a competitive runner who worried about every ounce of weight.How many competitive marathoners look like Michael Phelps? If lean muscle mass helped distance runners, then distance runners would look like sprinters.I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
Are you his coach or something?
I didn't mean to start anything here.... appreciate all perspectives. Outside of doing P90x 4 years ago, I know nothing about how to exercise (outside of running, obviously). But scoob has the right read on me. Sure, I'd love to be the Phelps physique, but that's not going to help my marathon times.I don't think you're coming across as an #####. But I think that all of us in this thread have a tendency to filter everybody's experience and goals in this thread through our own (myself included).Seriously? Did I come across as an ahole or something? If he likes to run, he can run, IDGAF. I'm not trying to stop him or anything. Just thought I'd give him some advice that with the time he already spends, he could do something else and get another ancillary "benefit." I never realized he was a competitive runner who worried about every ounce of weight.How many competitive marathoners look like Michael Phelps? If lean muscle mass helped distance runners, then distance runners would look like sprinters.I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
Are you his coach or something?
Which is why we'll have some in this thread telling guys to do more cardio. And some telling guys to do HIIT. And I just think a lot of those things are context sensitive.
All I know about Ned is what he's posted here. That he has some belly fat that he felt was holding back his running. Because the way to lose that fat isn't really all that compatible with the way to gain lean mass, I suspect that lifting with the goal of increasing his lean mass would be counter-productive to what he's told us his goals are.
That's fair, and I was posting, just as Ned noted, that his weak core and lack of upper body muscle could be hindering his running. My advice would positively impact those areas without putting a lot of muscle on him.I don't think you're coming across as an #####. But I think that all of us in this thread have a tendency to filter everybody's experience and goals in this thread through our own (myself included).Seriously? Did I come across as an ahole or something? If he likes to run, he can run, IDGAF. I'm not trying to stop him or anything. Just thought I'd give him some advice that with the time he already spends, he could do something else and get another ancillary "benefit." I never realized he was a competitive runner who worried about every ounce of weight.How many competitive marathoners look like Michael Phelps? If lean muscle mass helped distance runners, then distance runners would look like sprinters.I don't think my post suggested you should run any less. Just that converting some of the fat on your upper body into muscle, while strengthening your core seems like a win/win to me. Someone who looks like Phelps certainly wouldn't have his running hindered by his build. It would likely help actually.Deleted my first response since you responded in between. You nailed it better than I could answer myself.Because the guy genuinely loves running?You seem to get enough cardio through running. Why not get some free weights and build your core and other muscles that way? I know you said you don't want to build significant muscle, but would you rather look like a marathon runner (skinny, no muscle upper body) or Michael Phelps (lean but muscular)? A bench, bar, and weights is all you need. Bench, squat, deadlift, rows, overhead press, pullups, curls. That's really all you need.Ned said:I've been logging on MFP for a month now and have trimmed 4.8# off. Most people that know me think I don't have that to lose, but they don't realize just how soft my core was/is. My usual running volume has been significantly less this year (~40% less), yet I still ran 2sec off my 5K PR this past weekend (19:44). I have zero doubt its due to the diet change and being lighter. Following you guys in here and logging in MFP =
I've been focusing on getting more cross training in on rest/recovery days from running. I'd love some feedback on my little routine I've been tweaking. Keep in mind I'm doing this to stabilize my core and not be so soft; running is still priority #1. Putting on significant muscle is not what I want.
I can only max at 3 pullups, so I do that first before jumping into the sets. I'll do 3 exercises in succession, then take a 1-2min break before starting the next 3. Every set is at or close to fatigue. Any advice/critique?
Set 1: regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair) - Bicycles (abs) - pushups
Set 2: In/outs (abs) - chinups (assisted - foot on chair) - situps
Set 3: pushups - oblique V-Ups (L & R) - regular pullups (assisted - foot on chair)
Set 4: mason twists (abs) - pushups - chinups
By far, pushups kick my ### the most. Mason twists are also the fn devil.
You can see the impact Culdeus increased mass has had on his wife. I will say that my wife also is a much bigger fan of the new me. You can be lean and muscular but not look like a bodybuilder.
I hate running. Even when I did a lot of it, I liked knowing I had run but hated it while I was doing it. But Ned likes running. If I recall, he enjoys marathoning. Putting on lean muscle mass doesn't sound like a priority to him and I'm not sure it needs to be, particularly if he wants to improve his times.
I am too soft on the upper body, but like you said.... adding on much muscle isn't going to work. But there's definitely room for improvement on my upper body. The challenge is getting all this mixed in without adversely affecting my running. Right now what I'm doing hasn't hurt my running, but I also don't know if what I'm doing is worth a darn or not.
Are you his coach or something?
Which is why we'll have some in this thread telling guys to do more cardio. And some telling guys to do HIIT. And I just think a lot of those things are context sensitive.
All I know about Ned is what he's posted here. That he has some belly fat that he felt was holding back his running. Because the way to lose that fat isn't really all that compatible with the way to gain lean mass, I suspect that lifting with the goal of increasing his lean mass would be counter-productive to what he's told us his goals are.
I'm curious. Why is that the goal? I understand the goal to weigh X or to have X% of body fat or to fit in those jeans, or to pull a bunch of chicks. And I suppose I even understand the goal of working toward some athletic achievements. But this seems pretty divorced even from that. It's just kind of an arbitrary achievement.
You aren't really meant to roll them like that. 3 months on 3 off doing something else and come back.
The smartest ####### of a teacher I ever had once said he wished he was dumb, so he wouldn't give a #### about the little things. That has always stuck with me and I to this day am in awe of the completely oblivious people out their and wonder what it would be like to just be in the mind for an hour.
Watch your diet, do some body weight stuff or lift some weights. You'd be surprised at the changes. Be patient and don't get discouraged.
You're friggin' killing it. Keep it up!Huge week for me... -5.6lbs (-10lbs in the last 2 weeks). Sitting right around my initial weight goal, which now is not good enough. Reset my goal to go -15# more by my 50th birthday in two months.
Thanks GB! Have to admit losing that much in a couple weeks is both exhilarating, and a little worrisome. I'm hanging on the exhilarating part at this point.You're friggin' killing it. Keep it up!Huge week for me... -5.6lbs (-10lbs in the last 2 weeks)
I am impressed. Great stuff! I used to ruffle feathers in weight loss forums when some 350 pound 5'5" hog would list her goal as 200 pounds. Good luck on the next 15. I feel great 10 lighter than my original goal.Huge week for me... -5.6lbs (-10lbs in the last 2 weeks)
Damn. Awesome man. I've fallen off the wagon in a tough way given the insanity at home. Haven't been tracking or watching numbers, though I have been eating relatively well, my pants fit a bunch looser. I'd like to get on it the way you have to start shedding some serious weight again.Huge week for me... -5.6lbs (-10lbs in the last 2 weeks)
I think part of the reason we post here is so that we can motivate one another and keep each other accountable.Damn. Awesome man. I've fallen off the wagon in a tough way given the insanity at home. Haven't been tracking or watching numbers, though I have been eating relatively well, my pants fit a bunch looser. I'd like to get on it the way you have to start shedding some serious weight again.Huge week for me... -5.6lbs (-10lbs in the last 2 weeks)
Totally awesome man, good luck on the next goal.
Good luck. Start riding again and watch your food and you'll be under 2 bills in no time.proninja said:Alright. I'm in. Started an 8 week challenge at my sister's gym on Friday. I did the weigh in, and I'm at 217. I'm 5'9''. I work in a bike shop, and haven't ridden regularly in a while.
Working out M/W/F at this gym. On MFP. I'm "masonet" if any of you want to find me on there and yell at me if you see me skipping days.
Welcome.proninja said:Alright. I'm in. Started an 8 week challenge at my sister's gym on Friday. I did the weigh in, and I'm at 217. I'm 5'9''. I work in a bike shop, and haven't ridden regularly in a while.
Working out M/W/F at this gym. On MFP. I'm "masonet" if any of you want to find me on there and yell at me if you see me skipping days.
