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It's because when white people critique the black community people like you call them racist. So, in order to avoid that often unfounded criticism, white people use blacks who critique the black community to make their argument by proxy.
I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.one non serious post = lecturing people. What are you so angry about anyway?
the entire content of that post was saying how he should never listen to a white suburbanite who has nothing better to do than post here all day. At least own up to it.
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That and according to Tobias we're not allowed to have an opinion on black people.
Yup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
You are on fireYup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
Thanks, I liked that one too.You are on fireYup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
That's the preakness.(also in Maryland btw) White folk lose their mind there. You ever seen the port-o-potty run?
Sure whatever. I think people are people and anyone should be able to comment about anything without prereqs.Thanks, I liked that one too.You are on fireYup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
Seriously, let's call a truce on this one and I'll look for more Michael Jackson dancing videos. And enough with indulging that silly thing were you equate my saying other people aren't experts in [subject] with me saying I am an expert in [subject]. You're smart enough to know that's ridiculous and not at all what I said.
Totally agree. And I should be able to call them out on their lack of insight regarding the subject. That's part of the deal. I said it was funny and kind of silly, I didn't say they should be banned from saying it.Sure whatever. I think people are people and anyone should be able to comment about anything without prereqs.Thanks, I liked that one too.You are on fireYup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
Seriously, let's call a truce on this one and I'll look for more Michael Jackson dancing videos. And enough with indulging that silly thing were you equate my saying other people aren't experts in [subject] with me saying I am an expert in [subject]. You're smart enough to know that's ridiculous and not at all what I said.
itd be even more fun if you bothered to read through those quotes and see exactly how many times I actually called anyone s racist and how many times I defended people from charges of racism. I think you'll discover that the latter is much more prevalent than the former. But go ahead and look if you'd like.
There is actually a lot going on. You hoping another drug store gets burned down for it to be considered "something?"
I get what you're saying, but I'm cracking up envisioning will.i.am. giving you employment stats via futuristic hologram.John Bender said:Maybe cherry picking/distorting the real data due to an axe to grind. I'd consider the source. I try to stay away from anything MSNBC or FoxNews for info like this. (Go ahead and flame me for being a CNN guyHang 10 said:Heard it on Morning Joe this morning. Here's link to the segment.fantasycurse42 said:Current unemployment is 5.5%... To say that black men in this city are 900% above the national average is something I would like proof ontimschochet said:Why is it so unbelievable to you?The unemployment rate for all blacks in this country is around 17%, 10 points higher than for everyone else. The poverty rate in all of our inner cities approaches 40%.fantasycurse42 said:I need a link for a stat like this... This is almost unbelievable.Hang 10 said:Just heard a stat that 50% of black adult males are unemployed in Baltimore.
on.msnbc.com/1EMz2TB
Guy says it around the 5:50 mark. He actually says OVER half are unemployed.
Tim is right. Even the most blatantly racist posts won't make him call someone racist. Back to the subject, I think what a lot of residents are saying in the articles is interesting. They are saying that what this is really about is life without opportunity, not just the way police harass, beat up and kill blacks.
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I ####ed a black chick once... does that count?
Hence my earlier post about the disappearance of middle class and lower class jobs. There are bigger issues at hand here. The VAST majority of the posts in this thread are misguided at best in terms of addressing root cause. I see a lot of posts parroting what the media is spouting but very few addressing root cause.
Maybe uppity middle class whitey you refer to does know more about who black culture should listen to (not black murderers). Black culture can certainly choose their own leaders and role models but that doesn't make it a good decision.Totally agree. And I should be able to call them out on their lack of insight regarding the subject. That's part of the deal. I said it was funny and kind of silly, I didn't say they should be banned from saying it.Sure whatever. I think people are people and anyone should be able to comment about anything without prereqs.Thanks, I liked that one too.You are on fireYup. And that he gave it credibility and ran with it, and I responded to it by saying I found it funny, not that I was outraged. Not sure what's got you so upset. Is it your culture that made you this way? I know a lot about your culture, so I think that's probably it.I promise you I'm not angry about anything. And if you look back you'll see my original reply wasn't actually to you, it was to tdoss (who I consider an iFriend) taking your post about Lewis and running with it and coming to some strained conclusions about the credibility of Lewis vs Obama and whatnot.
Seriously, let's call a truce on this one and I'll look for more Michael Jackson dancing videos. And enough with indulging that silly thing were you equate my saying other people aren't experts in [subject] with me saying I am an expert in [subject]. You're smart enough to know that's ridiculous and not at all what I said.
The comments I laughed at weren't people making declarations about what black people should do, it was declarations about what they do. Totally different thing. It's like the difference between me saying "I think Georgia Tech fans should embrace Brian Gregory" and me saying "Georgia Tech fans love Brian Gregory." Both are silly, but I could at least try to make an argument for the former, while I'd have no basis whatsoever for the latter.
Awful. The racial healing period has begun, obviously.Obama
To be fair, this problem isn't going anywhere anytime soon... if ever. The black riots we're seeing are just the tip of an iceberg of economic divide that this country is barreling toward. It's not going to be pretty when it hits full-force either.
Adding: My "Disaster prep" is as much for civil unrest and rioting as it is for disaster recovery. Flyover country doesn't have much to fear, but those of us living in cities with large indigent populations are likely going to experience this on a fairly grand scale in the coming decade or so.
If the media should stress the positive aspects of the protests over the negative aspects of the riots, then, to be consistent, shouldn't the media also stress the positive instances of policing over the negative instances of policing?
What's funny is that he claimed that the media would show/was showing "one burning building on a loop" when any viewer last night saw live footage of some bizarre dude dancing and doing Jesus Christ poses in front of a wall of fire while another criminal drove a car over the fire several times, hoping to ignite it, at last successful, subsequently led away by the cheering crowd. And that was in one ten minute window of live television.
I think you've raised a very legitimate question - why are we so reluctant to focus on amorphous concepts like "breakdown of the family"? Let me ask you this - what is more amorphous and more difficult to quantify - whether a baby is born out of wedlock or whether racism exists? Yet we have no problem repeatedly attributing negative outcomes to the much more amorphous root cause of racism.The answer is that "decline of the family" as a root cause is not politically expedient. It doesn't lend itself to a solution that money or politics can easily solve. Part of what is going on with the breakdown of the family in the black community is cultural (yes, the dreaded "c" word). When Moynihan delved into some of these issues during his 1965 report he was labelled as a racist by the Left, and as a result his work was dismissed out of hand. Who wants to have an open, frank dialogue about the "ghetto culture" or the failings of the black matriarchal structure to allow black men the ability to act as authority figures? Yeah, try having that discussion these days.
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I feel like I'm missing out on something here.
This really should be as obvious as the nose on your face. Because any time a white conservative dare question whether some of the blame for the kind of destitution and poverty and violence that we see might be, to some degree, self-induced, one is met with the predictable rejoinder that points out the fact that one is white and conservative, and therefore unqualified to comment on the subjective experience of black people, and hence unwelcome in the debate. It's the modern way to tell somebody to shut up, and it's been going on for 45 years. It really has the religiosity and predictability of a pissed-off nun at Catholic school.
