Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Not taking your stinky bait tonight. Call someone else out. There's more than two people posting here. Good luck
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Baltimore: The Next Ferguson? (2 Viewers)
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Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Yeah, I know if I were a rich businessman, I would really want to pour money into these areas....
Jack White
Footballguy
Curfews are dumb.
timschochet
Footballguy
I mean black people living in inner cities whose leaders are demanding greater economic development as part of the solution to their woes. Specifically, they are demanding that the state and federal government spend more money to subsidize companies who want to invest in the inner cities, or (Jack Kemp's old idea) to offer tax deductions or tax free zones for companies who build in the inner city and employ young blacks.
In addition, these leaders also demand a significant change to our drug laws, and a massive increase in spending for education in the inner cities. Finally, they want the police to be more representative of the community and for the police to stop all racial profiling and be educated to do so, and subject to justice when there are unlawful killings of young black men.
These are, I believe, all of the proposed solutions to our inner city issues that most of these leaders are demanding.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Clearly , all politics is local
timschochet
Footballguy
I'm sorry, that wasn't bait and I'm not fishing. Based on your comment, I was trying to get you to clarify your position. If you don't wish to do so, that's your call.
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General Tso
Guest
Wow. Cops just picked off that dude. Slick.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I wouldn't build anything in those neighborhoods and wait for it to be robbed and stuff. If someone else wants to then good for them. The people committing these crimes can come up with all the excuses in the world but stop breaking the law and stop the ridiculous violence.
Northern Voice
Footballguy
1000 cops, hundred of protesters, more media than either one?
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
hopefully tomorrow night we will have hundreds of protestors no police and a few cameramen to show us the peace that commences.
timschochet
Footballguy
That's fine. I disagree with your position here, but it's a legitimate position and I wouldn't put you down for having it.
My own view is that we have to always keep in mind that the people who rob and burn are a small minority. As today's clean up effort demonstrated, most of the people who live in that community (and every community) are good people. I think it's unfair to treat them based on the worst among them. They need our help, and I think we should give it to them.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
I don't think you understand how they are enforced is all. Maybe you're the dumb one.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Hannity sure has a hard on for this "dangerous alliance" of the Nation of Islam, The Crips, The Bloods and the Black Guerilla Family. That's about the 8 time I've heard him talk about it.
Jack White
Footballguy
What's up Doc!I don't think you understand how they are enforced is all. Maybe you're the dumb one.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
cnn covering this like a sporting event. have play by play, sideline reporters.
Jack White
Footballguy
Rudy G blaming it all on the libtards.
timschochet
Footballguy
If you think I'm reading too much into your position, then you're welcome to clarify it. I didn't mean to do so, which is why I asked you to explain yourself. But it's up to you if you don't want to do so. If you choose to insult me as you have, that's up to you too.
Willie Neslon
Footballguy
and now instant replay
Jack White
Footballguy
Are the sideline reporters adding anything of value? Because that would be different from sports.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Did you ever see the Jon Stewart where he shows CNN is covering an event (Boston Marathon Bombing IIRC) and the main reporter cuts to the on scene reporter, and they are like 20 feet apart?
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comfortably numb
Footballguy
Yep
Not a bad tactic.
No death yet? so lets throw out some scare tactics about cop killings
Mark Davis
Footballguy
And as a business owner I don't care. Even if it's just one person, if they continually burn/rob/loot my location, then I'm out. Either it's more than a few, at least enough for a critical mass, or there isn't enough will within the community to stop them. I run a business and I like to make money, but I also like it when I can employ people, help in that regard. But you can't do that if you can't keep the doors open. Business isn't there to provide a service regardless of the margins or circumstances. There has to be some demand in the community as well as a respect for your right to be there.
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Jack White
Footballguy
As well too.
timschochet
Footballguy
I appreciate that argument too, Mark, and I can't really argue with it. Obviously it's not going to benefit anybody if too many people feel that way, though.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
If I were in charge of a home security company (ADT), I'd be spending all my marketing money putting commercials into these cable news network feeds.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
tom22406
Footballguy
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
And the fact of the matter is the businesses that have insurance are probably going to take that money and move elsewhere with it. I would. That would be like manna from heaven and a great way to get out of a bad situation. Those that have no insurance or not enough are screwed.
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General Tso
Guest
Looks like the cops did a good job tonight.
timschochet
Footballguy
This wasn't me that wrote this. I disagree with RW but his argument is hardly racist.
KCitons
Footballguy
Mark Davis
Footballguy
True. I know a lot of people have made light of the CVS and obviously by most of our standards that's not much. But if you believe what the Mayor said, they had to lobby hard to get CVS to build there. I don't think a lot of us live in a community with those kinds of issues. For what little it is, it did provide a pharmacy that was also open at night and even one of the better grocery options for that area. So after they convinced the company to set up there, this happens. I think from a PR standpoint they will be back. However, if you are a smaller operation and you aren't looking at it from a national PR perspective, you are right in that if you have insurance you take it and run and if you didn't have insurance you're just out of business.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
We need an America Works program!
Have we started the House of Cards reference jokes?
I mean Freddie the BBQ guy was on The Wire.
Yes? No?
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General Tso
Guest
Rock Newman (Gray's lawyer) just categorically denied that Gray had any prior back or neck problems. The story posted earlier tonight was bogus.
timschochet
Footballguy
most leases, it's up to the landlord whether or not to release the tenant after a fire. The tenant doesn't get to choose by themselves to leave. Of course these may be owner occupied buildings.
jonessed
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
The "dumb curfew" seems to have worked.
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General Tso
Guest
Chatter now on the scanner of enforcing the curfew. Cop sounded frustrated that he's seeing cars still on the road. Wants other cops to pull people over and enforce curfew.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Asian cops in Baltimore? Gonna need a link Montel.
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timschochet
Footballguy
They want state and federal tax money to help pay for everything. Especially federal; they want a national effort, a "Manhattan Project" to help the inner cities. Most black leaders have been demanding this for decades. A new Great Society, which in their viewpoint, was never adequately funded.
KCitons
Footballguy
jonessed
Footballguy
Of course. Everybody wants more money.
It doesn't look like its coming though so maybe they could get started on the things they do have some control over, like the police force. That's really on them.
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Huh, Rachel Nichols left ESPN to become CNN's sports anchor? Weird, same pay less work?
