Cooks and the pick
Cooks vs Benjamin - maybe cooks?12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
I would not give Gurley for Elliott and Cooks.If it was 1.01 i'd take the pick side for sure...but with Treadwell's stock dropping like a rock there isn't really a clear #2.
I would not give Gurley for Elliott and Cooks.
Chubb side, and good chance this ends up a landslide victory for the Chubb side.12 Team 1PPR, Superflex, Devy League (Q/Q/W/W/R/R/TE/Flex)
Team A: Donte Moncrief
Team B: Nick Chubb, Brian Quick
I was the side getting Chubb. I had a loaded team at QB/WR but little at running back (Dez/AJG/Allen/Cobb/Marshall/Diggs/Djax/Moncrief) so I targeted some backs. Gurley/LeVeon were off limits, DJ owner wanted Moncrief/1st+ (Not bad, but our draft is rookie/devy combined), Fournette owner literally wanted Randall Cobb/Keenan Allen/Moncrief/1st for just Fournette, and the Chubb owner said he would add to Chubb to get Moncrief so that seemed like the much better value.
I was the Cooks side. I viewed it as Cooks > 1.1 (or closer to even but still Cooks), Yeldon = K. Benjamin and K.Williams > J.Stewbostonfred said:Cooks vs Benjamin - maybe cooks?
1.1 vs yeldon and Williams - maybe yeldon and Williams?
Personally this feels like stewart for free but I can see both sides
I'll take your side.Gave: 1.02, 2.03, Mike Davis, Tevin Coleman and Travis Benjamin
Got: David Johnson, McKinnon and Perriman.
Garbage for garbage. What's the point?Small one...
Zealots non-ppr
Gave
Steve Smith & 5.12
Got
3.12
I looked at it like garbage for a chance at not-garbage. So why not? It was offered to me.Garbage for garbage. What's the point?
...and yes, at this point, Smurf is garbage.
Agreed. Guys drafted in my leagues at 3.12 or later last year:I looked at it like garbage for a chance at not-garbage. So why not?
Based on some of the deals I've seen for DJ lately, feels like you got a stealGave: 1.02, 2.03, Mike Davis, Tevin Coleman and Travis Benjamin
Got: David Johnson, McKinnon and Perriman.
I can see that. Chances are you get garbage at 3.12, but it's better than 5.12.I looked at it like garbage for a chance at not-garbage. So why not? It was offered to me.
Agree with this. On the cheap side for DJ.Based on some of the deals I've seen for DJ lately, feels like you got a steal
I hope so. His value seems to be all over the place. Some think he's the second coming and others are very skeptical. Overall, I'm pretty happy.Based on some of the deals I've seen for DJ lately, feels like you got a steal
WrightIf it was 1.01 i'd take the pick side for sure...but with Treadwell's stock dropping like a rock there isn't really a clear #2.
I'll take Charles and Hyde. I'm higher on Hyde than most though.Team A Devonta Freeman, 2016 3.08, 2017 2nd rnd pick
Team B Jamaal Charles, Carlos Hyde
FreemanTeam A Devonta Freeman, 2016 3.08, 2017 2nd rnd pick
Team B Jamaal Charles, Carlos Hyde
Bridgewater, don't know who John Gordon is.12 man QRWWTK 3flex
John Gordon
for
Teddy Bridgewater, 2.04
getting gordon for 2.04 is a steal12 man QRWWTK 3flex
John Gordon
for
Teddy Bridgewater, 2.04
I'd trade Kelce for two 1sts in a heartbeat. That's a lot more than I could get for him earlier in the offseason...buck naked said:FFPC 12 team TE Premium
Traded - Travis Kelce, 2017 4th (late)
for
Received - 1.06, 2017 1st (likely top 5), 2017 3rd
This looks like the kind of deal where the team getting Odell was a very good team with a good amount of extra resources, then went out and solidified himself as the favorite.12 team .75ppr qrrwwwtf
gave odell
got A Rodgers, josh Gordon, 2016 2.03, 2017 1st
I finished 2nd as a top team moving forward the new odell owner is more in rebuild mode, is confident in cousins moving forward and put arod on the block. I believe his 2017 1st gives me a shot at Chubb fournette etc and decided to also gamble on Gordon and give him arguably the #1 dynasty assetHow did you reached that conclusion? Couldn't the team trading OBJ be in are build stage or hold limited good players. They basically traded one elite player (OBJ) for another elite player (ARod) and picked up a moon shot and a couple of high draft picks. Both narrative fit the trade IMO...
It simply looked like the kind of deal that good team with extra assets would make to become a top team.How did you reached that conclusion? Couldn't the team trading OBJ be in are build stage or hold limited good players. They basically traded one elite player (OBJ) for another elite player (ARod) and picked up a moon shot and a couple of high draft picks. Both narrative fit the trade IMO...
I think it's equally likely I just torpedoed the guy's depth and he's worse as a result. Could be many years before the true winner of this trade is knownIt simply looked like the kind of deal that good team with extra assets would make to become a top team.
I would not expect a rebuilding team to trade OBJ away when probably the most valuable piece coming back is a 33 year old QB in a 1 QB league, but I could see a middle of the road team trade away OBJ to try and improve their starting lineup plugging in Rodgers with Gordon, and maybe use those other pieces for another player (not the kind of deal I would personally make, but see people do it all the time).
I would also not expect a top team to trade away OBJ for that package (which is what seems to have happened).
Savage, you also said you think you might get a top pick with his 2017 1st, but you likely just made his team a lot better, so keep that in mind.
Well, I would project OBJ to score quite a bit more than Gordon. Probably 100 more points. and that is if Gordon plays all year. Will Rodgers outscore Cousins (or whoever he uses at QB) by 100? Maybe, but I say that is much less likely than OBJ scoring a lot more than Gordon.I think it's equally likely I just torpedoed the guy's depth and he's worse as a result. Could be many years before the true winner of this trade is known
I did also get Aaron Rodgers and two good picks in the trade, 6 pt TD league. I don't like wasting roster spots streaming qbs. You guys are correct in that a lot of the risk is now on me with Gordon. I think the Browns start to do it right with hue Jackson, take a qb, and Gordon becomes very valuableGhostguy's analysis seems pretty sound here. It's not an outrageously imbalanced deal, but the team getting Gordon is essentially forced to count on him producing close to OBJ levels to not be taking a step back.
I'm a big believer in stocking up on 2017 1sts, but I don't have that much confidence in Gordon...to me he's still a high upside gamble rather than a locked-in WR1.
If Gordon blows up this year and posts Soulfly numbers, this deal looks a lot better for the team that dealt away Beckham.
IMO the 6 pt TD is important information that was left off. I think that makes it more balanced and basically a coin toss as to the winner.I did also get Aaron Rodgers and two good picks in the trade, 6 pt TD league. I don't like wasting roster spots streaming qbs. You guys are correct in that a lot of the risk is now on me with Gordon. I think the Browns start to do it right with hue Jackson, take a qb, and Gordon becomes very valuable
ouch think that is an overpay for matthews1.8, 2.1 and 3.12 rookie picks for Jordan Mathews
ouch think that is an overpay for matthews