timschochet said:
One recurrent theme is that even though young people are still coming out of college with good salaries they’re not able lto purchase homes in the same numbers their parents did because of the student loans.
You say this like it's a done deal fact that it's student loans. These are
multivariate problems. The media just parrot these memes until one believes they are true. While student loans have some effect and are part of the equation, the data shows that millennials are tracking the same ownership rate about 8% delayed from previous generations. They are also delaying marriage and kids substantially over previous gens. And current affordability ratings and supply are low in many areas.
BTW, the answer to this isn't to forgive debt to a system that has likely the most miserably bad underwriting standards of any program ever. Essentially giving a system that has seen prices increase at multiples of inflation because of the proliferation of easy money a massive steroid boost is absolutely not the answer. It just shows how little Ms. Warren understands about how economic systems work and why this one is broken.
On a personal note, my kid is going into high school right now. If this is put in I'll happily quit to get under the income limit and cash in the 529 (the 10% penalty is well worth it given the penalty for actually saving for college if I was forced to pay with it).
On another personal note it's pretty ballsy of her to champion this as she was earning ~400k for
teaching one class. The perception of corruptive self dealing is just astonishing. I'm sure some other progressive will pick up this torch - Ms. Warren has zero chance to be POTUS, so as is her proposals mean zilch.
Personally, I'd remove the special protections of student loans when it comes to filing bankruptcy and let the reconciliation happen that way. It requires the individual to make a decision to either figure out how to pay the loans or file bankruptcy to get out from under the loans. That way, they are "penalized" to some extent for washing their hands of their obligation. This special protection is a significant part of the problem.
If we did that we should reprice the risk on student loans and have rates track what would be charged for non-recourse personal loans. Because without the bankruptcy protections this is exactly what these are. The taxpayer should not bear the brunt of this risk.
The special protection is a feature, not a bug. And it's a damned good one.
The other side of this coin is that well-meaning liberals decided to make it much too easy for people to borrow more and more money for college. And with many of those loans being federally guaranteed, the combined result was for colleges to pump up the costs as high as they could go.
No different than well meaning liberals arguing vociferously that 3% down payments for guaranteed home loans was well within the norm and that if you took that football away it would unduly hurt poor people. Boy they got that right, didn't they.
As I indicated I would tie it directly to a new home buying program. Basically you can transfer your debt to a first mortgage.
Narrator: "And, ladies and gentlemen, this is how the great real estate bubble of 2022 grew so big and popped."
Besides the national Association of Realtors, several homebuilders associations back this idea, and the Chamber of Commerce is also positive. This isn’t just some lefty plan that only progressives are into. Like BIG, it represents some alternative thinking that a lot of economists believe will grow our economy exponentially.
These same institutions were the ones that refused to admit there was a real estate bubble until about 18 months after it blew. Seriously, Tim. Distorting markets like this is
not a good idea.
Also, there is plenty of money to find for free college if you dip into something like the military budget that is 90% grift.
Substantiate this. In Joe-like fashion, let's just say that I strongly submit this number is horse manure. If you're gonna spout it, defend it.