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4 hours ago, need2know said:

brady apparently hates the eagles more than any other team 🤣

Where are you seeing this?  Can't find this anywhere. 

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18 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Where are you seeing this?  Can't find this anywhere. 

he said it during the golf thing

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2 minutes ago, need2know said:

he said it during the golf thing

Link? 

All I saw was that he cringed at the Eagles... nothing at all about him hating us more than any other team in the NFL.

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1 hour ago, DJackson10 said:

You were talking about Foles run with the team. Peyton took a shot at Tom saying he should get Foles as his caddy. And Tom responded that's a cheap shot and he hates the Eagles more then any other team. My comment In Lew of what you said to show I think everyone in the league feels the same way we both do about Foles and loves to tease Brady about it 

Alcindor?

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On 5/12/2020 at 3:47 PM, The Noid said:

Jimmy Kempski gave a teaser about the subject for his next deep-dive into the tape: Darius Slay. His tackling attempts in 2019 were "almost comical":

Here's the full article. That 57 second video...yikes. I guess the good news is that the coverage talent is legit, and I was surprised to see just how good he is at PBUs. 

Contract isn't that bad, either, so still a win if we get a good 2 years of solid coverage on #1 WRs. 

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Rule specifics for the Eagles' proposed alternative to an onside kick that goes up for a vote tomorrow. I like it :thumbup:

It's not without (obvious) risks. Imagine getting a 15-yard penalty and having to go 4th and 30 from your own 10 yard line. 

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2 hours ago, The Noid said:

Rule specifics for the Eagles' proposed alternative to an onside kick that goes up for a vote tomorrow. I like it :thumbup:

It's not without (obvious) risks. Imagine getting a 15-yard penalty and having to go 4th and 30 from your own 10 yard line. 

4th and 30? Let's hope Jalen Reagor is better than Freddie Mitchell

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2 hours ago, The Noid said:

Rule specifics for the Eagles' proposed alternative to an onside kick that goes up for a vote tomorrow. I like it :thumbup:

It's not without (obvious) risks. Imagine getting a 15-yard penalty and having to go 4th and 30 from your own 10 yard line. 

It would probably be half the distance to the goal though, not bring it back to the 10 yard line.  So we'd be looking at a 12.5 yard penalty which would bring up 4th and 27.  We could handle that! :P

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Malcolm Jenkins will be the keynote speaker for Phila schools virtual graduation ceremony.
I know many think it was a good move to let him go, but the Eagles lost a lot of heart and soul.

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Devonta Freeman is mulling offers right now from TB and Philly 

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18 minutes ago, Mystery Achiever said:

Malcolm Jenkins will be the keynote speaker for Phila schools virtual graduation ceremony.
I know many think it was a good move to let him go, but the Eagles lost a lot of heart and soul.

Let's see who steps up to fill the void.

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37 minutes ago, DJackson10 said:

Devonta Freeman is mulling offers right now from TB and Philly 

Yep we officially made him an offer.  That would mean bye bye Clement.  Sad after that interview he gave on resigning with us, but for the better of the team.

Sounds like Shady just sitting there waiting and we likely sign him if we don't get Freeman.

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7 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Yep we officially made him an offer.  That would mean bye bye Clement.  Sad after that interview he gave on resigning with us, but for the better of the team.

Sounds like Shady just sitting there waiting and we likely sign him if we don't get Freeman.

I'd rather keep Clement if it was between him and Shady. Fact Andy made him a healthy scratch during the SB is writing on the wall. Plus given the stuff I've heard about Shady it'd be a step back from the culture we are trying to get back with the team on. 

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Just now, DJackson10 said:

I'd rather keep Clement if it was between him and Shady. Fact Andy made him a healthy scratch during the SB is writing on the wall. Plus given the stuff I've heard about Shady it'd be a step back from the culture we are trying to get back with the team on. 

They updated the report and TB didnt make an offer.  Just us.

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Just now, Deamon said:

They updated the report and TB didnt make an offer.  Just us.

This is good then. Hopefully we get him on the cheap. I've always liked Freeman and I think a role with less touches will do him good. 

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3 minutes ago, Dr. BD said:

IMO PHI makes sense for Freeman, but TB would be more attractive given he could be the #1 guy there 

TB makes so much sense for him over Philly.  Gets to be the main guy, Goes to a team with better Super Bowl odds per Vegas, Warmer city, and gets to stay in the division and play Atlanta a couple revenge games. 

I want him here, but we're going to have to pay more than Tampa is to overcome all the pluses of being in TB.

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12 hours ago, DJackson10 said:

This is good then. Hopefully we get him on the cheap. I've always liked Freeman and I think a role with less touches will do him good. 

Hes looked like crap the past couple seasons. 

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1 hour ago, need2know said:

Hes looked like crap the past couple seasons. 

He's looked really bad. Like running in quicksand. 

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4 hours ago, rockaction said:

He's looked really bad. Like running in quicksand. 

 

5 hours ago, need2know said:

Hes looked like crap the past couple seasons. 

Worse than Shady looked last year? Cause those are our two options.

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2 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Worse than Shady looked last year? Cause those are our two options.

I personally thought he looked worse than Shady. Shady lost his job and active status to Damien Williams. Freeman's main competition was Ito Smith, and Smith suffered a bad concussion in the latter stages of the season. I will admit to tuning out the last six weeks of Freeman's year last year, which IIRC, weren't too bad.

Neither could really be considered an upgrade over Jordan Howard right now, and neither is better than Carlos Hyde at this point (Hyde went for a thousand yards last year, nothing to scoff at.) 

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3 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I personally thought he looked worse than Shady. Shady lost his job and active status to Damien Williams. Freeman's main competition was Ito Smith, and Smith suffered a bad concussion in the latter stages of the season. I will admit to tuning out the last six weeks of Freeman's year last year, which IIRC, weren't too bad.

Neither could really be considered an upgrade over Jordan Howard right now, and neither is better than Carlos Hyde at this point (Hyde went for a thousand yards last year, nothing to scoff at.) 

He didn't lose his active status to Damien Williams, he lost it to Darwin Thompson. 

Howard is gone, and Hyde isn't an option.  Right now it's Clement, Freeman, or Shady.  And it seems they want Freeman or Shady.

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4 minutes ago, Deamon said:

He didn't lose his active status to Damien Williams, he lost it to Darwin Thompson. 

Howard is gone, and Hyde isn't an option.  Right now it's Clement, Freeman, or Shady.  And it seems they want Freeman or Shady.

Yeah, he and Williams were splitting time as starters. Then he lost active status. He was replaceable with Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson there to fulfill his role. I'm well aware of what happened as I rostered him last year. You can find me in the threads about the KC backs.

Yes, Howard is gone. One wonders if he wouldn't have been a better option than all four of their potential suitors (Hyde -- now with SEA, Clement, Freeman, and McCoy).

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Yeah, he and Williams were splitting time as starters. Then he lost active status. He was replaceable with Darrel Williams and Darwin Thompson there to fulfill his role. I'm well aware of what happened as I rostered him last year. You can find me in the threads about the KC backs.

Yes, Howard is gone. One wonders if he wouldn't have been a better option than all four of their potential suitors (Hyde -- now with SEA, Clement, Freeman, and McCoy).

He might have been but no way we were giving him a 2 Year 10M contract.

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3 minutes ago, Deamon said:

He might have been but no way we were giving him a 2 Year 10M contract.

Nope. Not remotely worth that. 

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6 hours ago, Deamon said:

 

Worse than Shady looked last year? Cause those are our two options.

I'd rather just stay with Clement if our only Option was Shady 

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On 5/29/2020 at 8:06 PM, DJackson10 said:

I'd rather just stay with Clement if our only Option was Shady 

As a 3rd/4th RB, in a vacuum, I'd probably agree. But the role they are likely looking for is someone who can step-in and carry the load if Sanders went down for an extended period of time. Not sure they see Clement as that kind of answer. 

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6 hours ago, The Noid said:

As a 3rd/4th RB, in a vacuum, I'd probably agree. But the role they are likely looking for is someone who can step-in and carry the load if Sanders went down for an extended period of time. Not sure they see Clement as that kind of answer. 

I agree but speaking on stand point of where they are at career wise a Healthy Clement at this point is a better option for that job then Shady at 100%. They should've went after Devonta Booker, Chris Thompson or Dion Lewis if this is what they want. At this point Id ask Lamar Miller to come here. If healthy thats a big reward there 

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Special teams is a huge consideration for a 3rd RB to be active on game days. Likely why Shady was inactive in the SB with Williams healthy. 

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A lot of people pondered if Malcolm was the snitch. Pretty apparent to everyone at this point, if Malcolm had a problem with you, he wasn't gonna go whisper secret to Josina Anderson.

Eagles F'd up here by letting him go. 

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18 minutes ago, Terpman22 said:

A lot of people pondered if Malcolm was the snitch. Pretty apparent to everyone at this point, if Malcolm had a problem with you, he wasn't gonna go whisper secret to Josina Anderson.

Eagles F'd up here by letting him go. 

Sorry man. Glad he’s gone. 

Hes in a locker room with 60-70 other people who all have their own struggles/issues, thoughts and beliefs but only his matter. He showed that. That’s a selfish cancer. 

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10 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

Sorry man. Glad he’s gone. 

Hes in a locker room with 60-70 other people who all have their own struggles/issues, thoughts and beliefs but only his matter. He showed that. That’s a selfish cancer. 

I respect your right to this opinion, but whole-heartedly disagree. This might be the first time I've ever seen Malcolm referred to as a cancer not on Twitter.

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2 minutes ago, Terpman22 said:

I respect your right to this opinion, but whole-heartedly disagree. This might be the first time I've ever seen Malcolm referred to as a cancer not on Twitter

“To think that everyone should have the same ideals as you is ridiculous.”- Malcolm Jenkins. He said this while criticizing Drew Brees for not having the same ideals as him.

You support this? How? Please tell me the part of Brees’ video that upsets you the most. I’m genuinely curious. 

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8 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

“To think that everyone should have the same ideals as you is ridiculous.”- Malcolm Jenkins. He said this while criticizing Drew Brees for not having the same ideals as him.

You support this? How? Please tell me the part of Brees’ video that upsets you the most. I’m genuinely curious. 

I posted the full statement for context and bolded so you can see the beginning of the statement you are referring to. It's very propaganda like to cut up one sentence from an entire 4 minute statement and try to attack that line without any context. 

 

 

 

“The onslaught of sh-t that we have to deal with is f–king crazy right now,” Jenkins said. “Drew Brees, if you don’t understand how hurtful, how insensitive your comments are, you are part of the problem. To think that because your grandfathers served in this country and you have a great respect for the flag that everybody else should have the same ideals and thoughts that you do is ridiculous. And it shows that you don’t know history. Because when our grandfathers fought for this country and served and they came back, they didn’t come back to a hero’s welcome. They came back and got attacked for wearing their uniforms. They came back to people, to racism, to complete violence.

“And then here we are in 2020, with the whole country on fire. Everybody witnessing a black man dying — being murdered — at the hands of the police, just in cold blood for everybody to see. The whole country’s on fire. And the first thing that you do is criticize one’s peaceful protest that was years ago when we were trying to signal a sign for help and signal for our allies and our white brothers and sisters, the people we consider to be friends, to get involved? It was ignored. And here we are now with the world on fire and you still continue to first criticize how we peacefully protest because it doesn’t fit in what you do and your beliefs without ever acknowledging that the fact that a man was murdered at the hands of police in front of us all and that it’s been continuing for centuries, that the same brothers that you break the huddle down with before every single game, the same guys that you bleed with and go into battle with every single day go home to communities that have been decimated.

“Drew, unfortunately, you’re somebody who doesn’t understand their privilege. You don’t understand the potential that you have to actually be an advocate for the people that you call brothers. You don’t understand the history and why people like me, people with my skin color whose grandfathers fought for this country, who served, and I still protested against that — not against the national anthem but against what was happening in America and what our fabric of this country is for, or stands for. If you don’t understand that other people experienced something totally different than you, then when you talk about being a brotherhood and all this other bullsh-t, it’s just lip service or it’s only on the field. Because when we step off this field and I take my helmet off, I’m a black man walking around America and I’m telling you I’m dealing with these things, I’m telling you my communities are dealing with these things, and your response to me is, ‘Don’t talk about that here. This is not the place.’

“Drew, where is the place, Drew? I’m disappointed. I’m hurt. Because while the world tells you that you’re not worthy, that your life doesn’t matter, the last place you want to hear from are the guys that you go to war with and that you consider to be allies and to be your friends. Even though we’re teammates, I can’t let this slide.”

Jenkins used even stronger language in the deleted video, a portion of which has been posted by NFL reporter Dov Kleiman.

“Our communities are under siege, and we need help,” Jenkins said in a portion of the deleted video. “And what you’re telling us is, ‘Don’t ask for help that way. Ask for it a different way. I can’t listen when you ask that way.’ We’re done asking, Drew, and people who share your sentiments, who express those, and push them throughout the world, the airwaves, are the problem. And it’s unfortunate because I considered you a friend, I looked up to you, you’re somebody who I had a great deal of respect for, but sometimes you should shut the f–k up.”

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10 minutes ago, Terpman22 said:

I posted the full statement for context and bolded so you can see the beginning of the statement you are referring to. It's very propaganda like to cut up one sentence from an entire 4 minute statement and try to attack that line without any context. 

 

I’ve watched his video at least 10x. The first part of your bolded has nothing to do with the second. One is very specific and only applies one way. His way. The second is a broad stroke of a brush to justify what he knows is a ridiculous statement. He caught himself there and you’ll see it in the video. 
 

He is hurt by what Brees said but is willing to take the risk of hurting Brees because of his opinion and only his is correct. Only his way matters. More than 90% of his reply makes absolutely no sense if you watch what Brees said  

Now please tell me which part of Brees’ video hurt YOU the most understand/take this position. 

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2 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

I’ve watched his video at least 10x. The first part of your bolded has nothing to do with the second. One is very specific and only applies one way. His way. The second is a broad stroke of a brush to justify what he knows is a ridiculous statement. He caught himself there and you’ll see it in the video. 
 

He is hurt by what Brees said but is willing to take the risk of hurting Brees because of his opinion and only his is correct. Only his way matters. More than 90% of his reply makes absolutely no sense if you watch what Brees said  

Now please tell me which part of Brees’ video hurt YOU the most understand/take this position. 

Again, I respect your opinion. I didn't format this, but know enough about English writing that if things are in the same paragraph together, they relate to one another. Feel free to continue to parse the words to fit whichever agenda you seem to want to align with.  If you want to get yourself all worked up about this, go for it. You seem to be the only person in Eagles world (not on twitter) that seems to have beef with Malcolm. If you recall, we won a Super Bowl due to our culture, locker room and chemistry. To each their own, but you came out here with a single sentence trying to put meaning behind it without context, not the other way around. I'm done here with you Big Boy. 

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2 minutes ago, Terpman22 said:

Again, I respect your opinion. I didn't format this, but know enough about English writing that if things are in the same paragraph together, they relate to one another. Feel free to continue to parse the words to fit whichever agenda you seem to want to align with.  If you want to get yourself all worked up about this, go for it. You seem to be the only person in Eagles world (not on twitter) that seems to have beef with Malcolm. If you recall, we won a Super Bowl due to our culture, locker room and chemistry. To each their own, but you came out here with a single sentence trying to put meaning behind it without context, not the other way around. I'm done here with you Big Boy. 

I’m not even close to being upset. Please stop deflecting. 
 

You don’t respect my opinion enough to tell me which part of a video upset you? That was complicated how?

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Just now, Bigboy10182000 said:

I’m not even close to being upset. Please stop deflecting. 
 

You don’t respect my opinion enough to tell me which part of a video upset you? That was complicated how?

Of Drew Brees video? The whole thing! The timing, the message, the tone deafness, the inability to "read the room" , using the military as some shield in his argument, despite never serving a day himself, instead leaning on his grandfather's service. Muddying the waters, showing poor leadership and judgement. I mean, its a long list buddy. 

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5 hours ago, Terpman22 said:

Of Drew Brees video? The whole thing! The timing, the message, the tone deafness, the inability to "read the room" , using the military as some shield in his argument, despite never serving a day himself, instead leaning on his grandfather's service. Muddying the waters, showing poor leadership and judgement. I mean, its a long list buddy. 

This.  I don't think Brees really gave an "opinion", and I don't think Malcom was saying his was the only opinion to have.  Brees was pretty insensitive to the current situation with his words and is going to/has already made enemies from this.  You see the difference in ways that Carson vs Brees responded to his teammates' current pain?

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5 minutes ago, Deamon said:

This.  I don't think Brees really gave an "opinion", and I don't think Malcom was saying his was the only opinion to have.  Brees was pretty insensitive to the current situation with his words and is going to/has already made enemies from this.  You see the difference in ways that Carson vs Brees responded to his teammates' current pain?

So you’re telling me Wentz and Brees are two different people who handled situations differently? That’s not allowed now  

"Is everything right with our country right now? No, it's not. We still have a long way to go." - Drew Brees

Literally what he said in the video. See but it wasn’t EXACTLY what Malcom wanted. So he must be attacked until he falls in line  

 

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Just now, Bigboy10182000 said:

So you’re telling me Wentz and Brees are two different people who handled situations differently? That’s not allowed now  

"Is everything right with our country right now? No, it's not. We still have a long way to go." - Drew Brees

Literally what he said in the video. See but it was EXACTLY what Malcom wanted. So he must be attacked until he falls in line  

 

Yes they handled those situations differently.  Carson shows far more leadership here.  I bet there's a lot of players right now (not saying they're right or wrong for it, but it's how they feel) who would rather play for a guy like Carson then Drew right now.  I'm not even really debating what Drew said, but even if you believe in what Drew said, as a leader sometimes you gotta say the right things to the media. 

Even Drew knows he F'd up.

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2 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Yes they handled those situations differently.  Carson shows far more leadership here.  I bet there's a lot of players right now (not saying they're right or wrong for it, but it's how they feel) who would rather play for a guy like Carson then Drew right now.  I'm not even really debating what Drew said, but even if you believe in what Drew said, as a leader sometimes you gotta say the right things to the media. 

Even Drew knows he F'd up.

"Is everything right with out country right now? No, it's not. We still have a long way to go." - Drew Brees

No BS. Could you imagine saying that and being crushed by people at the same time? 

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Just now, Bigboy10182000 said:

"Is everything right with out country right now? No, it's not. We still have a long way to go." - Drew Brees

No BS. Could you imagine saying that and being crushed by people at the same time? 

Why do you keep taking 1 line and trying to discuss single sentences when we are discussing the whole message. You seem to be the only one that really wants to do this. 

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Just now, Bigboy10182000 said:

"Is everything right with out country right now? No, it's not. We still have a long way to go." - Drew Brees

No BS. Could you imagine saying that and being crushed by people at the same time? 

You picked one good part out of what he said lol.

So you don't think Drew knows he messed up?  Maybe this could be discussed in the Brees thread instead. 

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yeah get that this out of the eagles thread please

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3 minutes ago, Terpman22 said:

Why do you keep taking 1 line and trying to discuss single sentences when we are discussing the whole message. You seem to be the only one that really wants to do this. 

I’m honestly starting to lean towards you not listening to the Brees interview at all. This is why I asked which part you disagreed with. When you said everything I bailed. 

3 minutes ago, Deamon said:

You picked one good part out of what he said lol.

So you don't think Drew knows he messed up?  Maybe this could be discussed in the Brees thread instead. 

So when he gave his reasons for what the anthem means to him, that made you angry?

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3 minutes ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

I’m honestly starting to lean towards you not listening to the Brees interview at all. This is why I asked which part you disagreed with. When you said everything I bailed. 

So when he gave his reasons for what the anthem means to him, that made you angry?

I'm going to respond to this in the Brees thread.

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6 minutes ago, Deamon said:

I'm going to respond to this in the Brees thread.

No need. It’s off topic and I’m rolling in 5. I’ll be back on when camps start. 

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1 minute ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

No need. It’s off topic and I’m rolling in 5. I’ll be back on when camps start. 

Probably for the best.

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2 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Probably for the best.

Agreed. I need COVID gone and POS cops to stop killing people so I can have a summer lol

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Forgot to post this last week when I saw it, but interesting take from beat writer Zach Berman, from The Athletic. He thinks pretty strongly that Miles Sanders is going to be a Westbrook/McCoy type RB in the offense this year. It's been 5 seasons since we've had a "bell cow" RB (and even that was the DeMarco Murray disaster.)

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Even with Sanders and Scott, don’t rule out the Eagles adding a veteran running back, but don’t expect them to pay much. You’ll notice a trend in this column: The Eagles will prioritize good value with any veteran they add.

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The Eagles don’t necessarily need a veteran running back, although they’re bare at the position behind Sanders. (Don’t fall for running back-by-committee stories this offseason; it’s Sanders’ backfield.) Scott, Corey Clement, Elijah Holyfield and two undrafted rookies aren’t necessarily strong insurance at the position if Sanders goes down. Of course, it’s easy to find inexpensive veteran running backs late in the offseason, and it’s generally viewed as a plug-and-play position for a player added at any point. If the Eagles elect to go with what they have on the roster, trusting their offensive line and offense to get passable production on the ground, it wouldn’t be the worst outcome. There’s going to be a drop-off after Sanders, however it plays out. They could just gamble on fresh legs.

 

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