Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Makes me chuckle that people thought this game would be close.
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2023 Philadelphia Eagles - Complete waste of a season finally comes to an end. (1 Viewer)
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DJackson10
Footballguy
A lot of issues on the inside we don’t know about I think
babydemon90
Footballguy
I mean he was worlds better last year and earlier. He's regressed. It's not like he didn't improve - he did, he used to make good throws, beat the blitz. Then - whatever this is happened.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Did the same for players lost. Got cheap or very cheap in certain areas they shouldn’t of
Deamon
Footballguy
Pretty close here. Might basically nail it if we get a garbage time TD.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
The issues are with Nick Sirianni per Tim McManus
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
DJackson10
Footballguy
Whole sale changes need to be made in coaching and players next year. For the love of god get us some LBs and DBS.
DJackson10
Footballguy
90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
And if it’s more of the same then what?
DJackson10
Footballguy
It what I predicted to happen this week. Get blown out and barely get 10 pts
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
And if it’s more of the same then what?
Depends, right? If guys like Kelce or Lane retire that’s an issue for sure. The coaching is so much worse this year compared to last.
Howie has to realize that you can win in this league with younger players if the coaching is there. We can’t keep “bringing the band back” after successful years. They (Lurie and Howie) HAVE to adjust there.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Watching Kelce on the sideline with Stoutland and I’m not sure he’s coming back.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I think he was done, regardless. But that collapse had to make it easier to decide to hang them up. Him and Dawk, my 2 all-time favorite Eagles.
Gachi
Footballguy
I had us losing 20-7. Baker makes bone headed mistakes and they can’t catch. Bucs should have put up 40+
babydemon90
Footballguy
No chance he's coming back. After losing in the Superbowl - he thought there was something there. After the way this ended? Lane Johnson might retire too.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Won’t be shocked if Nick is fired at this point. Just embarassing football. Zero effort out there.
People are definately losing jobs because of this. Defense got worse with Matt “I looked good because of Cheating Bill” Patricia there then Desia.
Lurie looks pissed going into the locker room. This team was who they are. They won a few more games then they had business winning do to talent on the roster.
People are definately losing jobs because of this. Defense got worse with Matt “I looked good because of Cheating Bill” Patricia there then Desia.
Lurie looks pissed going into the locker room. This team was who they are. They won a few more games then they had business winning do to talent on the roster.
Deamon
Footballguy
he was always expected to retire after this year.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Should’ve put 60 up on us honestly
Insein
Footballguy
Idk if that was even the plan. He pivoted once CJGJ didn't resign. He should have let all of them walk and took the hit this year with young guys.90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
And if it’s more of the same then what?
Depends, right? If guys like Kelce or Lane retire that’s an issue for sure. The coaching is so much worse this year compared to last.
Howie has to realize that you can win in this league with younger players if the coaching is there. We can’t keep “bringing the band back” after successful years. They (Lurie and Howie) HAVE to adjust there.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Yeah based on people I talked to who know him better it was sounding like this was his last year.
Insein
Footballguy
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
If you’re parting with the OC and DC the case can be made for him to go.
Either get the play caller HC you want (Johnson) or one of the other greats out there to stabilize.
Deamon
Footballguy
Looks like 22
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DJackson10
Footballguy
Maybe but CJGJ was still young enough and really liked by teammates and coaches. I think both parties missed a great oppurtunity. You don’t also waste a draft asset on Byard who doesn’t seem to have done any better then who he replaced this year. I wasn’t expecting all pro Byard but I was expecting a more complent of a safetyIdk if that was even the plan. He pivoted once CJGJ didn't resign. He should have let all of them walk and took the hit this year with young guys.90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
And if it’s more of the same then what?
Depends, right? If guys like Kelce or Lane retire that’s an issue for sure. The coaching is so much worse this year compared to last.
Howie has to realize that you can win in this league with younger players if the coaching is there. We can’t keep “bringing the band back” after successful years. They (Lurie and Howie) HAVE to adjust there.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Would’ve rather lost a few more games and got the better draft position
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He wasn’t really liked by players and coaches and Byard sucked.Maybe but CJGJ was still young enough and really liked by teammates and coaches. I think both parties missed a great oppurtunity. You don’t also waste a draft asset on Byard who doesn’t seem to have done any better then who he replaced this year. I wasn’t expecting all pro Byard but I was expecting a more complent of a safetyIdk if that was even the plan. He pivoted once CJGJ didn't resign. He should have let all of them walk and took the hit this year with young guys.90% coaches and 10% personnel.What you are saying with these coordinators is 90% of this teams issues.Perfect! And who knows but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire.“So just so we are clear:
Glad we cleared that up and everyone is focused on winning the game instead of pre-setting the narrative for when they lose.
Hearing all the stories come out after this season is going to be wild”
I memed it for you.
Last year both sides of the ball functioned at a high level and now they don’t. Only difference is the OC and DC so that where I’m laying my bets
Other difference is key guys are older and we lost key guys and failed to adequately replace them.
Are the Cordinators putting guys in bad positions? Probably but at the same time we failed in player personnel acquisitions.
They also failed to replace guys on defense. Losing CJ and Edward’s and White were bigger than people think. Both slay and Bradberry should have either been replaced or kept 1 not both. The essential kept bradberry over keeping CJ.
Failed to get an adequate #3 wR and get a RB to compliment Swift as well as upgrade TE2.
They kept relying on older guys and it finally caught up to them finally. Cordinators are an issue but so is some of the personnel.
Bradberry over CJGJ or Edwards was a big miss for sure.
People love to lean on the age even when the younger guys look worse too. Guys like Milton Williams or Sweat looked to be taking the next steps to being good to great players and took huge steps back.
You’ll see how much different this team is next year if we get quality coordinators
And if it’s more of the same then what?
Depends, right? If guys like Kelce or Lane retire that’s an issue for sure. The coaching is so much worse this year compared to last.
Howie has to realize that you can win in this league with younger players if the coaching is there. We can’t keep “bringing the band back” after successful years. They (Lurie and Howie) HAVE to adjust there.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
will big dom be back next year
DJackson10
Footballguy
I think Lurie gives Nick the Pederson treatment. Tells him fire the OC and DC have some capable replacements. If not you’re fine too
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Waiting to see Nick om the podium… hopefully can tell something from his demeanor and what he focuses on
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
OC and DC have to be gone. Can Howie land quality coaches to replace him?
Eyes are on Howie now for sure.l
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Oh, and it cannot be emphasized enough: Bradberry, you SUCK!
DJackson10
Footballguy
Never should’ve been resigned. They need to bite the bullet and cut Slay see if they can salavate a pick or two for Slay.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Bradberry should’ve been benched weeks ago.
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Yep and I think Lurie hopes Nick says no so he can clear house.
I can not believe how fast this happened. But Nick is out classed in coaching to often.
Love the guy but he has to go.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
He never should have been brought back.
I’m pretty sure I posted stats on him and Slay and how bad they were the end of last year. It was clear.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I don’t think he’s a bad HC. He knows the game and players like him. With that said, if you’ve gonna clean house the case can be made for him to go for a play calling HC or one of the good or great ones out there.
A guy like Belichick will have a great staff and a lot of talent is already in place. Vrabel and even Harbaugh there as well.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
Bradyberry should be required to give back his 2023 salary for that missed tackle on the TD. Horrible..
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya I'm torn on it. I like Nick, and think he's a good coach, but what if we hire co-ordinators that aren't good again? Is he still going to sit back and not make adjustments?
The coaching candidates are PLENTIFUL this year... next year likely won't be as good.
As of now I think we would be a fairly attractive spot for a coach to choose. If we are so bad next year that we fire Nick, I'm not sure we will be as attractive to coaches.
I say we just do it now.
need2know
Footballguy
He was awful all year. Should have never paid him
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
This would have to be where every coach would prefer for the most part.
He also said he’s gonna finish strong and has “a few good years left”. So that’s good.
Insein
Footballguy
Yep. Said that first. Weird stock answer to start about feeling good about next year with the talent they have. Didn't sound like he believed that.
Deamon
Footballguy
I think you either need an Elite coach, or Elite coordinators to win the SB in this league.
Nick is a good coach that could flourish with Elite co-ordinators.
But I don't have much confidence in us getting elite Co-ordinators, so I'm fine with us looking for an Elite coach for next year.
Nick is a good coach that could flourish with Elite co-ordinators.
But I don't have much confidence in us getting elite Co-ordinators, so I'm fine with us looking for an Elite coach for next year.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
They all talk to agents.
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