Recent content by jgrangers2

That's pretty much along the lines that I was thinking. Your greatness in football is defined more by the intangibles, how you force people to account for you and open up things for other people. This is mostly with linebackers, defensive backs and receivers to a lesser extent. There are ways of...

How much do numbers truly matter in football? I am a big baseball fan where numbers pretty much define your career. I am also a huge football fan and have recently questioned this topic. Are football players truly defined by numbers? In fact, how do you define true football greatness?

Guys like Banks and Carson were great linebackers, but LT was the heart and soul of that team. Take him out and that defense gets much worse. Just look at the numbers after he got there. The Giant moved up something like 20 spots in total defense in his first year.

I've shown my friend what most of you true, longtime football fans have said about LT. Yet, he still won't listen. He's discrediting everything that pretty much doesn't say he's right. He's listening to the guys who talk about Ray Lewis and that's about it, even though they're the vast minority...

I think that there is an argument for guys like Butkus, Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary or even Deion Sanders. However, 90% of genuine NFL fans will probably tell you that it's Lawrence Taylor. That's judging from the general reaction to this thread.

My friend's a Jet fan, that's one of the reasons he refuses to believe that LT is the best.

That argument is ridiculous. It takes full teams to win, not singular players. How did the Oilers ever let anyone else win a cup in the 80's with Wayne Gretzky? How did the Lions and Barry Sanders not win a super Bowl if he was so dominant?LT chased down anyone with the ball, running backs...

I completely disagree with your whole system point. Yes, LT had good players around him, but I think it was him who made the other players better, rather than the other way around. LT was constantly doubled, and sometimes, triple-teamed, yet he still managed to consistantly make the plays...

That means a lot coming from, I'm assuming, a Cowboys fan.

Yeah, I think Joe Theismann would know about LT better than anyone. I think they should have them doing color commentary together next year.

Vince Young WILL be a QB in the NFL. He has the ability to throw in the pocket and run if necessary. If he doesn't work out as a QB, then he might end up at wide receiver.

My friend isn't stupid, I just think that he wants to believe that the players of his generation are the best ever. I'm only 18 and got a very little sample of LT when I was young, but I've seen highlights and videos of some Giant games from the '80s. He did things on the field that I have never...

Fair point. I actually had just thought of that after I posted.

I can only imagine how many more sacks he could've had if he just rushed the QB on every play. He probably would've easily cleared 200, averaging more than 15 per season.

The trade would be Rivers for Abraham straight up, no picks exchanged.