'07 League Champs with Brady - Is the title legit? (1 Viewer)

[tommyGunZ]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.

In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".

Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

 

[Mr. PadresLakers]

Anything remotely related to the Patriots of the Bill Belicheck era is worthy of an asterisk.

 

[Pickle Rody]

WHAT??????? Absolutely no FF title should have an * next it!!!!!!!!!

You are insane.

Kudos to the guy who had each of those players in those years.

It just so happens that the Brady owner won my money league last year, but Brady is not the guy who accomplished this for him. It was his own shrewd waiver moves to pick up Ryan Grant and Ernest Graham that won him the title.

ETA: this topic should be deleted for insanity!!

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

,1/10

 

[coolnerd]

WHAT??????? Absolutely no FF title should have an * next it!!!!!!!!!

You are insane.

Kudos to the guy who had each of those players in those years.

It just so happens that the Brady owner won my money league last year, but Brady is not the guy who accomplished this for him. It was his own shrewd waiver moves to pick up Ryan Grant and Ernest Graham that won him the title.

ETA: this topic should be deleted for insanity!!

Unfortunately, this is not first thread of this type. There were a couple that I remember during the season that attempted down play the abilities of Brady owners.

 

[Chachi]

ENOUGH.



Hey Mods, how about locking these type of threads before they get to be 10 pages. "The Patriots Cheat" is beyond old, boring and dumb.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

If they were able to withstand his week 15 performance (140 yards, 0TD, 1 INT) in the playoffs then Tom Brady owners definitely deserved whatever championships they were able to win.

 

[B Maverick]

ENOUGH. Hey Mods, how about locking these type of threads before they get to be 10 pages. "The Patriots Cheat" is beyond old, boring and dumb.

Dont think this is a Patriots Cheated thread......And why put an * next to a title of an owner that had the forsight to pick up brady late in the season expecting a big year out of him? Or I guess I should say lucked into having Brady on his team.... Isnt that what FF is all about?By the way, the brady owner in my league finished in next to last place

 

[Ace Matherton]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

And how good was Brady in the week 15 again? If you won with Brady on your team that week, there is NO * that can be put on the season.

 

[Couch Potato]

What an idiotic thread topic. So Brady had a great year. What about Manning's great year a few years back? What about the great years of LT, Priest, Jerry Rice, Faulk, Alexander, Moss, LJ, Terrell Davis, etc. etc. etc. Geez, an asterisk because someone else won and not you? Talk about sour grapes. Get over it already!

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

So nope the guy with Brady didn't win (week 15 elimination), with LT2 and Moss on his roster hard to say the guy screwed it up.Slapahoindiantribe StartersRoethlisberger, Ben PIT QB 20.80Graham, Earnest TBB RB 22.90Evans, Lee BUF WR 7.60Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 21.70White, Roddy ATL WR 1.40Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 4.70Lindell, Rian BUF PK 0.00Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def 27.00Starter Total: 106.1 The RAGES StartersBrady, Tom NEP QB 5.90Barber, Marion DAL RB 3.20Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB 26.30Moss, Randy NEP WR 12.90Walter, Kevin HOU WR 8.30Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE 3.80Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 7.00Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def 10.00Starter Total: 77.4

 

[Phurfur]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

And where are you going to put this asterisk? I am sure everyone in your league passed on Brady a couple of times. The best owner won, you sound like a bad loser.

 

[jurb26]

How about we put an * next to all the SD players for every year one of their guys gets caught using steroids too. Wait, that would be like... every season.

 

[Chachi]

How about we put an asterick on the OPs tongue so everytime he speaks everyone will know it's somewhat dishonest....

 

[tommyGunZ]

What an idiotic thread topic. So Brady had a great year. What about Manning's great year a few years back? What about the great years of LT, Priest, Jerry Rice, Faulk, Alexander, Moss, LJ, Terrell Davis, etc. etc. etc. Geez, an asterisk because someone else won and not you? Talk about sour grapes. Get over it already!

Not the same thing bro. When you draft Priest Holmes or LT2 early and they exceed expectations, that's one thing. It's completely different when you get 50 TDs from your 4th rounder.

 

[tommyGunZ]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

And where are you going to put this asterisk? I am sure everyone in your league passed on Brady a couple of times.

The asterisk goes in league emails and is used during conversations at the bar when discussing our fantasy team/league.

The best owner won, you sound like a bad loser.

Not really. The owner who won last year has never sniffed a title, and usually fights to make the playoffs.

 

[theunfortunatealiai]

Anything remotely related to the Patriots of the Bill Belicheck era is worthy of an asterisk.

 

[-OZ-]

uh.... no.

FWIW, the Brady owner only won two of my 5 leagues last year. One was total points, and the owner also drafted Peterson. The other, also had Peterson and LT; scary thing is that guy (happens to be me) barely won week 17.

 

[Enraged Nerfball]

I had:

Brady

LT

Owens

Wayne

Gonzo

Went 7-7 and didn't sniff the playoffs. There are no guarantees.

This thread makes no sense.

 

[pizzatyme]

I'd say the only way a Championship in FF gets an * is if someone caught the drafter roiding up before the draft. Or if the drafter was caught video taping draft preparations of his fellow league mates. Or if some idiot FF league mate trades him Randy Moss for a 4th round pick next year.

In other words, it's not likely.

 

[radballs]

Gunz,

It sounds like what you're talking about is just a bunch of league mates that like to bust balls. If it is just a thing where guys are having fun with it, it's not a big deal. And no single person can win you an FF title anyway (even though LT was close in 2006). Whoever wins it deserves credit, but I could see busting on someone who never is competitive but comes away with a one year victory because they got "lucky" or whatever. We do that kind of thing all the time to someone who on paper had a crappy team following the draft but they hit on a bunch of sleepers. No biggie.

 

[Pictus Cat]

Yeah, this kind of thing is totally unacceptable.

All players should have strict rules about how far they can get credit for going beyond our draft projections.

No more celebrating record breaking or personal best performances.

You get back in the hole I put you in.

 

[awesomeness]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

And where are you going to put this asterisk? I am sure everyone in your league passed on Brady a couple of times.

The asterisk goes in league emails and is used during conversations at the bar when discussing our fantasy team/league.

The best owner won, you sound like a bad loser.

Not really. The owner who won last year has never sniffed a title, and usually fights to make the playoffs.

1 star out of 5. Because i can't go any lower.

 

[lord_helmet]

,1/10

 

[Winning IS Everything]

uh.... no.FWIW, the Brady owner only won two of my 5 leagues last year. One was total points, and the owner also drafted Peterson. The other, also had Peterson and LT; scary thing is that guy (happens to be me) barely won week 17.

The three leagues I play in the Brady owner won zero titles.

 

[comfortably numb]

:(

How about the owner who has

Moss, Welker, Maroney, NEP Defense, Watson, Stallworth, Gostowski?

Just give the league an asterisk

 

[Silver & Black]

The champ in my league didn't have Brady. In fact, I think he was rotating between Kitna and Hasselbeck.

Silly thread. I think this thread should have an asterick. :(

 

[bcr8f]

WHAT??????? Absolutely no FF title should have an * next it!!!!!!!!!

You are insane.

Kudos to the guy who had each of those players in those years.

It just so happens that the Brady owner won my money league last year, but Brady is not the guy who accomplished this for him. It was his own shrewd waiver moves to pick up Ryan Grant and Ernest Graham that won him the title.

ETA: this topic should be deleted for insanity!!

Cheating is just a part of strategy. BB's genius was way before his time.

 

[bcr8f]

I'd say the only way a Championship in FF gets an * is if someone caught the drafter roiding up before the draft. Or if the drafter was caught video taping draft preparations of his fellow league mates. Or if some idiot FF league mate trades him Randy Moss for a 4th round pick next year.In other words, it's not likely.

Good point. We need drug testing leading up to fantasy drafts.

 

[yellowdog]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.

Manning had a decent year in '04.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

We all know 1 player doesn't single handedly win fantasy championships, but Tom Brady came pretty darn close last year. Just like Warner in '01 or Culpepper in '04, all an owner really had to do was not screw up a team with those guys, and the title was basically guaranteed.In my league, many of us refer to the 2001 title as the "Warner title", and we're now refering to the 2007 title as the "Brady title".Anyone else believe that those titles deserve an asterisk if the owner won by basically having their QB go off?

What is the asterisk supposed to mean?That since he had Brady there wasn't any real skill in drafting his team so he shouldn't get credit compared to owners that won with a more balanced team?If you've been in enough leagues and competitive drafts, you realize that there is a lot of luck that goes into this hobby. With 12 knowledgeable drafters, you're going to need things to break your way in a given year to win the entire thing.How don't care how good you think you are, if you play this hobby enough, you'll run into those seasons where your top guys just keep getting dinged up or it's your player that the league suspends. If this hasn't happened to you, then you haven't played long enough.P.S., I use the word "you" above in the plural sense Tommy, I know you've played FF for awhile.

 

[brock]

What an idiotic thread topic. So Brady had a great year. What about Manning's great year a few years back? What about the great years of LT, Priest, Jerry Rice, Faulk, Alexander, Moss, LJ, Terrell Davis, etc. etc. etc. Geez, an asterisk because someone else won and not you? Talk about sour grapes. Get over it already!

Not the same thing bro. When you draft Priest Holmes or LT2 early and they exceed expectations, that's one thing. It's completely different when you get 50 TDs from your 4th rounder.

this is why my league has decided to hold our draft the during the MNF game in week 8. this way we can limit luck and value to make it as fair as possible for everyone. :(

 

[Paranoia]

This sort of asterisk is to be applied every year to the team that wins and should be employed by all team owners and their friends who didn't win.

Poor owners are the ones that don't talk ####.