1.02 PPR pick options (1 Viewer)

[JoeMoney]

So I'm sitting at the 1.02 slot and debating my pick. Generally I've been assuming Charles will be the first pick, and I'll take either ADP, Forte, or McCoy with the 1.02. Lately though I've been considering Megatron with the pick as our league may be setup well for an upside down strategy. An interesting article on this site about Megatron at the 1.02 pick in a PPR made me want to look further into this option.

The league is a 10-team PPR league, with 3 points for a passing TD, 6 points for all other TDs. Rest of the scoring is pretty standard fare. Our starting requirements are a little different:

1 - QB

1 - RB

3 - WR (TE included)

1 - Flex QB/RB/WR/TE

1 - Flex RB/WR/TE

1 - K

1 - DEF

I'm targeting a team that starts two QBs every week while my second flex will either be my 2nd RB or 4th WR/TE.

The league generally drafts fairly balanced despite the 2-QB option. Essentially there isn't a huge run on QBs in the first three rounds as usually there should be around 7 or so taken in that timeframe.

How would you attack this draft? Get the top-RB while you can, or get the top-WR and fill the RB slots a few rounds later in an upside-down format?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

 

[Run It Up]

At the 1.02 I would be targetting Charles>Mccoy>Forte.

At the 2-3 turn it would heavily depend on who is still available given the league structure, id probably take two WRs or Graham if hes still on the board.

I wouldn't worry to much about QBs, id aim to grab two to start every week but still in the 5-6 round, like Romo/Rivers/Cutler

 

[JoeMoney]

That was my initial thought with attacking the draft in that manner. I also have considered taking a QB in the 2-3 swing to attempt to get a luck/stafford type in the 2 QB format. Not sure it's worth it though. I think a lot depends on who goes when, but I do value a strong WR1 should one be available to me. Which is why I'm looking towards taking one early vs. the 2/3 swing when I'm hoping one wil be there

 

[jurb26]

If I land the 1.02 pick I'm going to hope like hell I get Charles with that pick. Not such a stretch seeing I think McCoy is largely the player most want. I've Charles comfortably at the top in PPR, though. If I don't get him it's going to be a tough call between Peterson, McCoy or Forte. I'm leaning Peterson.

 

[12punch]

If I land the 1.02 pick I'm going to hope like hell I get Charles with that pick. Not such a stretch seeing I think McCoy is largely the player most want. I've Charles comfortably at the top in PPR, though. If I don't get him it's going to be a tough call between Peterson, McCoy or Forte. I'm leaning Peterson.

not worried about kc o-line?

 

[jurb26]

If I land the 1.02 pick I'm going to hope like hell I get Charles with that pick. Not such a stretch seeing I think McCoy is largely the player most want. I've Charles comfortably at the top in PPR, though. If I don't get him it's going to be a tough call between Peterson, McCoy or Forte. I'm leaning Peterson.

not worried about kc o-line?

It's bothers me a little but I think it's demise is being overstated. Fisher will have to step up this year but I think he's capable. Regardless, Charles catches too many passes for me to worry about that a great deal. He's going to catch 70+ given a full season IMO. That's just too much opportunity for an elite player like Charles.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm not seeing how QB is not an option in a Super-flex league. I don't play in any, but from what I gather it seems like whichever the "Big 3" QBs you prefer would be a no brainer pick.

 

[chickensoup]

Why are you not considering Manning at 1.02? I mean unless you know the draft tendencies of your league mates, in 2 QB leagues (even with slightly suppressed scoring) those guys will still put up far more points and you have to start 2 (technically you don't, but there is little reason not to outside of bye weeks). Guys like Tannehill will put up similar points to guys like Lacy, you can almost get double that with Manning.

The problem with Superflex leagues is that there's not a lot of info out there about them so some people follow the "wait on QB" mentality. But the reason you wait is the depth at the position combined with only having to start 1. Once you have to start 2, that goes out the window. You can get by on starting Cutler as your QB if you only have to start 1 because your depth at other positions can carry you. But starting Cutler + Palmer vs a guy starting out with Manning + Romo or Rodgers + Dalton will probably lose the week for you.

 

[JoeMoney]

Re. Charles, I'm not very concerned with the OL myself but I think he regresses some as he basically hit career highs last year I think. Kinda feeling the same way with McCoy and Forte myself. I haven't decided yet, but I think Peterson might be my top RB honestly. Tough to say that in a PPR league though so I have to watch my homerism.

As for not considering a QB at the 1.02 spot, I wouldn't say I would rule it out, but it would be my third option for a few reasons, one of which is league specific.

1) The last two years in the same league, there was 10 and 11 QBs taken in the first 4 rounds (40 picks), and I think there's a chance that I could get a Stafford/Luck type at the 2/3 swing, and they both (for example) could make that leap potentially. So I think I could get 80-90% of a top 3 value later on.

2) A top RB would be nice as I'd have a positional advantage most weeks and the drop off is more significant at RB than a top QB to the next tier, unless someone like Foster returns to form, and he could be there available potentially, leading me to number 3.

3) Potentially taking the top WR in Megatron could help me take advantage of a RB that falls that I like, as well as protects me against a potential WR/TE run. I do value a top WR and was targeting one in round 2, however if I start looking closer, and I think there is going to be a run in the 16 picks between mine, since we can technically start 5, I could be looking at a depleted position that fills a good chunk of my starting lineup.

I also had success waiting until the 7th round last year to take QBs when I got Wilson, Vick, Bradford, and Alex Smith. Unfortunately I didn't fill the positions after injuries very well and that cost me, but that's another story for another time.

 

[Sullie]

I'm in the exact same boat. I do the same thing year after year and I've hit a lull in that I've been one and done in the playoffs for several years now. I'm thinking of doing an outside the box move this year and going with Megatron with the 2nd overall pick. The thing is, almost every year, it seems like for the last 4-5 years my #1 RB pick turns into a bust/disappointment, an injury or an underperformance.

 

[Mario Kart]

Ray Rice. Only way to go.

 

[Phenomena]

At the 1.02 I would be targetting Charles>Mccoy>Forte.

At the 2-3 turn it would heavily depend on who is still available given the league structure, id probably take two WRs or Graham if hes still on the board.

I wouldn't worry to much about QBs, id aim to grab two to start every week but still in the 5-6 round, like Romo/Rivers/Cutler

In a recent $250, basically same settings as OP mentions, it went Charles/McCoy/Forte. I took Forte 3rd.

 

[meatwad1]

This is unconventional, but I would go with either Rodgers or Jimmy Graham. Both moves are going to force qbs and tes off the board quicker than normal, so you will have solid rbs and wrs to pick at the turn. I think both are a sure thing this year, seeing that they both had injuries last year. I am usually leery of player who were not injured at all in the last year or who had an outlier year relative to their normal production. Calvin is also a good pick. I don't like Charles this year...everybody on that team is #####ing about money and their schedule is way tougher this year. I don't like Peterson either, that team has a new coach and no qb. That situation looks like everyone will just throw up their hands in the middle of the year and say 'screw it". McCoy will get hurt this year. He is due for a blown out something and has been ridden hard over the last three years.

 

[JoeMoney]

I'm in the exact same boat. I do the same thing year after year and I've hit a lull in that I've been one and done in the playoffs for several years now. I'm thinking of doing an outside the box move this year and going with Megatron with the 2nd overall pick. The thing is, almost every year, it seems like for the last 4-5 years my #1 RB pick turns into a bust/disappointment, an injury or an underperformance.

Actually that brings up another good point in that I've lost my initial RB picks the past few years as well and the turnover from year to year at the top of the position has been getting worse. Makes the Calvin pick seem more plausible, however the RB options have been pretty consistent recently.

Jimmy Graham would be considered however we combine TEs with the WRs for one position.

So let's say that I go Calvin, what RBs would you target in the second and third rounds? Or would you even do that, instead going for QBs (we can start 2) or load up on WR/TEs?

 

[Mario Kart]

So let's say that I go Calvin, what RBs would you target in the second and third rounds? Or would you even do that, instead going for QBs (we can start 2) or load up on WR/TEs?

Which ever ones are available.

 

[Rounders]

Just landed 1.02 in my redraft - so definately interested in this.

Anyone worried about Sproles in Philly and him taking McCoy's touches?

 

[Phenomena]

Just landed 1.02 in my redraft - so definately interested in this.

Anyone worried about Sproles in Philly and him taking McCoy's touches?

Not at all. Sproles is done. He's over 30 and speed is the first thing to go. New Orleans wouldn't have let him go so cheap if he was still a threat in the passing game. He's a gadget guy this year. If anything, him on the field is a decoy. McCoy is the stud and should be treated as such. He's my 1.01 over Charles this year (who lost three of his starting lineman).

 

[HurryUpSundays]

Anyone heard if they are planning on using Sproles and Shady on the field at the same time?

 

[fCheeze]

I know i'm in the minority here.. but I am at 1.03 and leaning Lacy. I was a happy Charles owner last year, but think we have reached his upside.. I have the idea the KC DEF may also take a step back.. possibly air it out more...

I am concerned about the impact of Sproles on McCoy. I think Kelly is un predictable with his use of RB

Lacy's situation is the best. I think he was hampered by Rogers injury and his own in the late season.. He has the most upside. I also think GB's DEF will be better this year, leaving lots of room for late game ground game.

I hope to get Gronk at 2.09, and if not, I will target Cameron at 3.03 and a top WR in the late 2nd.

I agree with the view to wait on QB.. I may not even take a top 12.

 

[Run It Up]

I know i'm in the minority here.. but I am at 1.03 and leaning Lacy. I was a happy Charles owner last year, but think we have reached his upside.. I have the idea the KC DEF may also take a step back.. possibly air it out more...

I am concerned about the impact of Sproles on McCoy. I think Kelly is un predictable with his use of RB

Lacy's situation is the best. I think he was hampered by Rogers injury and his own in the late season.. He has the most upside. I also think GB's DEF will be better this year, leaving lots of room for late game ground game.

I hope to get Gronk at 2.09, and if not, I will target Cameron at 3.03 and a top WR in the late 2nd.

I agree with the view to wait on QB.. I may not even take a top 12.

I'm all for alternative opinions, but I would need to talk with someone from the future to concede that Lacy was in a better position than Charles, Mccoy or Forte.

 

[dickey moe]

Why are you not considering Manning at 1.02? I mean unless you know the draft tendencies of your league mates, in 2 QB leagues (even with slightly suppressed scoring) those guys will still put up far more points and you have to start 2 (technically you don't, but there is little reason not to outside of bye weeks). Guys like Tannehill will put up similar points to guys like Lacy, you can almost get double that with Manning.

The problem with Superflex leagues is that there's not a lot of info out there about them so some people follow the "wait on QB" mentality. But the reason you wait is the depth at the position combined with only having to start 1. Once you have to start 2, that goes out the window. You can get by on starting Cutler as your QB if you only have to start 1 because your depth at other positions can carry you. But starting Cutler + Palmer vs a guy starting out with Manning + Romo or Rodgers + Dalton will probably lose the week for you.

Don't discount the opportunity you have to start 2QBs in superflex leagues. I'd draft 2QBs in the first four or five rounds in most superflex leagues, particularly those that score more than 4pts/passing TD.

 

[JoeMoney]

Our league actually starts 2 QBs about 75% of the time and I plan to do that again this year as well. Ironically enough, with only 10 teams and a league history of QBs going slower than I've seen in other 2 QB drafts, I'll likely bypass on a stud immediately but still try to get 2 in the first 5 picks. Depends on the flow of the draft really.

I'm basically looking at the first pick taking Charles while I choose from the rest of the big three (of which I don't include Lacy myself) or Megatron at 1.02. I wouldn't consider Megatron normally but it's a PPR and we only are required to start 1 RB and 3 WRs, so I'm thinking the value system might be skewed from what we normally see in leagues, but haven't decided if I want to let a top RB go by.

As for the McCoy argument over Charles, I can see the point but I think I have Charles ahead. Sproles might take just enough from him to scale him back some. And he was knicked up often last year as well making me think they might want to lighten his load some, but not much. I'd also keep an eye on Polk sucking away some touches if Sproles is mostly used as a WR.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

pretend I'm faust

 

[12punch]

If I land the 1.02 pick I'm going to hope like hell I get Charles with that pick. Not such a stretch seeing I think McCoy is largely the player most want. I've Charles comfortably at the top in PPR, though. If I don't get him it's going to be a tough call between Peterson, McCoy or Forte. I'm leaning Peterson.

not worried about kc o-line?

It's bothers me a little but I think it's demise is being overstated. Fisher will have to step up this year but I think he's capable. Regardless, Charles catches too many passes for me to worry about that a great deal. He's going to catch 70+ given a full season IMO. That's just too much opportunity for an elite player like Charles.

how about now?