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$1.1 Billion a week lost in Work Productivity (1 Viewer)

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THere's a feature on CNBC now. Challenger, Grey came up with this number based on 50 minutes (10 min/day) of prep/week in the office Guess they don't know about FBG. ;)

Based on 36.8 million people playing. They're defending the number based on office camaraderie and teamwork. Not sure what wage figure they used.

The study also cited a survey saying average fantasy sports owners spend 34 minutes a day just thinking about their teams and spend close to $500 a year on fantasy sports.

More on it here:

http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-article-a...y_survey_says-i

(See post 31 for demograhics from the Fantasy Sports Trade ###'n)

 
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I would venture to guess most people waste MORE than 50 minutes a week in the office on fantasy football. I believe the productivity loss is more like $275 trillion. :)

 
THere's a feature on CNBC now. Challenger, Grey came up with this number based on 50 minutes of prep/week in the office Guess they don't know about FBG. ;)

Based on 36 million people playing. THey're defending the number based on office camaraderie and teamwork. Not sure what wage figure they used.
my quick math says $25/hr
 
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Color me guilty. For the last two weeks, I probably spend 30 hours a week on the boards and looking up stats on my players :bag: Most of that time is at the office.

"Actual work" is down to 20 hours a week or so. Good thing I have the kind of job where I can slack off most of the day.

 
I used to spend much more time playing the market at work. But that was during the big innernet bubble days.

 
Here is another article:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/07/technology...21205/index.htm

Cash in on fantasy sports

The everyman's obsession that lets everyone be the owner of a pro-ball team is big business.

December 7, 2005: 4:53 PM EST

By Matthew Boyle, Fortune

NEW YORK (FORTUNE) - The American male's obsession with sports is nothing new, but try this on for size: More than half of fantasy sports fanatics spend over an hour a day just thinking about their teams.

That finding, along with the fact that one in four fantasy players spends more than $500 a year on the games, comes from the first-ever sociological analysis of online fantasy sports participants, conducted by Don Levy, an assistant sociology professor at West Virginia Wesleyan College.

These games, burgeoning in popularity and run by Web sites like ESPN.com and CBS SportsLine, allow regular Joes to create and run teams of actual professional athletes in sports like baseball and football. The teams square off against each other in leagues formed by friends or workmates, with teams earning points based on the on-field performance of, say, Derek Jeter or Peyton Manning.

With upwards of 15 million players in the U.S., fantasy sports are a billion-dollar market. CBS SportsLine, for example, generated $15 million in sales from 1.3 million fantasy football customers last year.

Since fantasy players tend to linger on sites -- reading player profiles, pondering their starting lineups, and sending messages to others in the league -- they attract blue-chip advertisers like McDonald's (up $0.10 to $35.26, Research), Verizon (down $0.29 to $31.45, Research) and General Motors (up $0.65 to $23.04, Research).

Responding to fantasy players' insatiable desire for content, CBS and ESPN are also doing more to incorporate fantasy storylines and themes in their TV coverage of sporting events.

Who is the fantasy sports fanatic?

While fantasy's viability as a business is now unquestioned, little has been heretofore known about the people who play fantasy sports.

For starters, the one-year study, made exclusive to FORTUNE Magazine, found that they're mostly male, white, married, well-educated (over two-thirds of Levy's sample had a college degree or better) and earn a decent living.

Of the nearly 1,200 people queried, three out of four earn at least $50,000 a year, well above the national average.

"These are not social misfits living in their parents' basement," said Levy. Not surprisingly, the majority rated their sports "fanship" very high, with fanship being defined as active consumption of sport.

Most interesting, though, was Levy's finding that 60 percent of fantasy players spend over an hour a day just thinking about their fantasy team, and 85 percent spent over 30 minutes.

Granted, Levy's sample was skewed towards rabid fantasy players like Larry Dobrow, 35, a Manhattan-based freelance writer who thinks the one-hour-a-day figure may be understated.

"During the days leading up to a baseball or football draft, [fantasy] is pretty much your primary concern -- including work, relationships, and sometimes hygiene," he said.

Employer beware

Workplace consultancy Challenger, Gray & Christmas estimates that fantasy football alone will cost employers $196.1 million in lost productivity during the current NFL season. That figure may prove to be conservative, since it was based on fantasy players taking only 10 minutes out of their work day to manage their teams.

"Productivity goes down the drain," said CEO John Challenger. "It's like a virus."

Despite the impact on productivity, Challenger says companies shouldn't quash fantasy participation during work hours, as the effects of a ban could be far worse than the damage caused by playing fantasy games.

Levy's study quantifies that damage: Two-thirds of his sample spend at least five hours a week managing their fantasy teams, and more than an third are busy with fantasy sports for more than 10 hours a week. Those hours can come at any time. During his eight-day Mediterranean honeymoon cruise, Mark Del Franco, 36, recalled logging onto the ship's Internet connection to make daily lineup changes. "At that point, my wife was asking herself if she made a mistake," he said.

The damage extends to fantasy players' wallets as well. Since most players pony up dollars not only for league entry fees but also subscribe to fantasy news and analysis sites, the money spent by fantasy players annually can really add up. The average amount spent was $360, Levy found, but 24 percent spend more than $500 a year on their various teams.

Lingua franca revisited

Levy argues that while sports do not take over the lives of these fans, sport -- and the consumption of sports news, games and information -- was "laced throughout the day's structure" and as such, "has become the language of men and masculinity."

Nearly half spend more than 10 hours a week watching sports on TV, which is perhaps not news to the spouses of these men.

The study also investigated why they play. For starters, it's fun. It also makes watching sports more interesting.

Others like the competition and the ever-present trash talking on league message boards. Less important, Levy found, was using fantasy sports to meet new people or to satisfy a thirst for gambling.

And for those who think that hours spent on fantasy Web sites will rot your brain, fear not. Levy argues that fantasy sports success depends to some degree on the use of abstraction, rationality and the employment of positivism.

While 82 percent played an organized sport in high school or beyond, having played the game is not a prerequisite for fantasy success. Rather, those who do well don't get wrapped up in the real-life moral foibles of professional players -- what that player can do for him on the field is more important than what kind of person he is.

"Some would call this approach businesslike," Levy writes.

So do many corporate chieftains play fantasy football? The only one we could find was Doug Brooks, CEO of Brinker International (up $0.27 to $40.66, Research), parent company of restaurant chain Chili's, whose fantasy football team, as of week 13, remained winless.

But his company's stock is up 7 percent since the start of the football season, so shareholders can rest assured that his mind is squarely on Brinker.

 
I don't know if I buy the dollar figures they come up with for lost productivity. People are going to find a way to waste some time here and there whether or not they are playing fantasy football.

I remember when I used to work in a large inside sales office. Half the office smoked and would go outside for a "smoke break" at least a couple times per day. Those of us who didn't smoke felt like we were entitled to some breaks too, so we would head down to the break room and have a soda or a snack. What's the difference if you are breaking to smoke or snack or if you are breaking to set your fantasy lineup?

 
"Productivity goes down the drain," said CEO John Challenger. "It's like a virus."
LOL, someone must have coached John Challenger since this year they're talking about how great it is for camaraderie. Or else this is the first year anyone asked him to join a league. :)
 
Color me guilty. For the last two weeks, I probably spend 30 hours a week on the boards and looking up stats on my players :bag: Most of that time is at the office. "Actual work" is down to 20 hours a week or so. Good thing I have the kind of job where I can slack off most of the day.
Yep. I have a respectable office job and since late July I've spent about 3 hours a day doing fantasy football research/analysis. I'm "working" about 25 hours a week. Coincidentally, my VP told me I was doing a great job the other day. :thumbup:
 
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I don't know if I buy the dollar figures they come up with for lost productivity. People are going to find a way to waste some time here and there whether or not they are playing fantasy football. I remember when I used to work in a large inside sales office. Half the office smoked and would go outside for a "smoke break" at least a couple times per day. Those of us who didn't smoke felt like we were entitled to some breaks too, so we would head down to the break room and have a soda or a snack. What's the difference if you are breaking to smoke or snack or if you are breaking to set your fantasy lineup?
When I worked in an office, I spent way more time on FF than coffee breaks. :bag: But I was always good at multitasking. :)
 
This is all a bunch of crap. If I wasn't doing FF then I would find something else to waste my time with, and it wouldn't be work.

 
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This is all a bunch of crap. If I wasn't doing FF then I would find something else to waste my time with, and it wouldn't be work.
exactly. I'd be all over fantasy Nascar if there was no football...and I hate NASCAR.
 
Let's see... in my 10th year of fantasy football... been with this company for 7 years... multiply that times the number of hours I've spent messing around on the internet...

Yep, that's a WHOLE lotta wasted time... :lmao:

 
THere's a feature on CNBC now. Challenger, Grey came up with this number based on 50 minutes (10 min/day) of prep/week in the office Guess they don't know about FBG. ;)

Based on 36.8 million people playing. They're defending the number based on office camaraderie and teamwork. Not sure what wage figure they used.

The study also cited a survey saying average fantasy sports owners spend 34 minutes a day just thinking about their teams and spend close to $500 a year on fantasy sports.

More on it here:

http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-article-a...y_survey_says-i
Look on the bright side.$500 * 36.8million = $1,840,000,000 Which is a net gain for the economy of $740 million! :yes:

 
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I am proudly doing my part of sticking it to the Man. Unfortunately, with my own law practice . . . :unsure:

 
Here is another article:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/12/07/technology...21205/index.htm

Granted, Levy's sample was skewed towards rabid fantasy players like Larry Dobrow, 35, a Manhattan-based freelance writer who thinks the one-hour-a-day figure may be understated.

"During the days leading up to a baseball or football draft, [fantasy] is pretty much your primary concern -- including work, relationships, and sometimes hygiene," he said.
:bag: My shower has been missing me and is happy the season starts tonight...

 
lol @ this brilliant conclusion and GB reading this at work.

:)

Also what rig24 said. People have always wasted time at work in corporate America (gov't doubly so at least, of course). We just moved from water coolers to our PCs. In fact this is better cuz it looks/sounds like we're working.

But long as the job gets done, in the end who cares?

 
lol @ this brilliant conclusion and GB reading this at work. :)Also what rig24 said. People have always wasted time at work in corporate America (gov't doubly so at least, of course). We just moved from water coolers to our PCs. In fact this is better cuz it looks/sounds like we're working. But long as the job gets done, in the end who cares?
:goodposting: If not for FF I would have 2 hours a day to do nothing. Im to quick/good at what I do and they wont give me more!!
 
Color me guilty. For the last two weeks, I probably spend 30 hours a week on the boards and looking up stats on my players :bag: Most of that time is at the office. "Actual work" is down to 20 hours a week or so. Good thing I have the kind of job where I can slack off most of the day.
I too slack off at work all day long. We must work in the same industry. Are you an air traffic controller also?
 
Well, my bosses, these mean guys named Joe and David, insist that I spend every waking moment thinking about, reading about, and writing about NFL Football and how it relates to fantasy football. Every Sunday/Monday (and the odd Thursday), they insist I watch as much game action as possible.

And every second I spend doing so = an increase in my "work productivity". I reckon that all my increased "productivity" offsets any losses that y'all are generating for the general economy...LOL

Sereiously, though, I'm not sure how these "losses" were calculated, but most office workers I know get an hour at lunch (I know I did when I worked for First Union/Wachovia in Charlotte back in the mid-late 90's) and frequent trips to the coffee machine/water cooler/playing minesweeper, etc. There is a lot of merit in stepping back from whatever knotty problem a person is wrestling with, taking a mental break, and then returning when the frustration level has receded. Exactly what a person does on lunch break (go to the park and do Tai Chi, do a crossword puzzle, manage their FF team, etc.) is not lost "productivity" - it's a good and necessary break in the daily grind.

Now, if a person is surfing NFL news when they should be processing an insurance claim or making a sales call, that's a different deal. But I think most folks put "doing a good job" first and take breaks when their job doesn't demand their instant attention. Or, they find another job because they get fired.

Heck, there are a ton of studies out there that indicate citizens of the U.S. work way too much, don't take their vacations/personal days, etc. - and end up burning out/dropping their productivity because they come to resent all the work they do. Compared to other modern "Western" economies, Americans spend much more of our life at work/travelling to and from work than anybody else, on average. I read in the USA Today NFL kickoff section today that hard-core football fans spend more time in a week following their team/FF teams than a Frenchman spends at work in a week (about 35 hours) - I doubt 1% of Americans work less than 50 hours per week when you include commuting...

My thoughts on the Challenger study...

 
Another CNBC segment this morning; this one with the head of the Fantasy Sports Trade Association. He gave a lot of demographics; much lower # than Challenger study:

---16 Million Play; 85% is football

---Average Player = 37 yr old educated male

---22% of males 18-49 play

---94% male/6% female

 
People that will waste time instead of working will find something to waste time on. If it is football season they will look up fantasy football. If they are feeling horny they will look up pron. If they are into stocks then they will read up on them.

The bottom line is simply having 'Internet Access' is what hits work productivity. Not fantasy football.

 
THere's a feature on CNBC now. Challenger, Grey came up with this number based on 50 minutes of prep/week in the office Guess they don't know about FBG. ;)

Based on 36 million people playing. THey're defending the number based on office camaraderie and teamwork. Not sure what wage figure they used.
my quick math says $25/hr
Yeah because those High School / College Students (probably more than 50% of the millions that play FF) earn close to that. :loco:
 
THere's a feature on CNBC now. Challenger, Grey came up with this number based on 50 minutes of prep/week in the office Guess they don't know about FBG. ;)

Based on 36 million people playing. THey're defending the number based on office camaraderie and teamwork. Not sure what wage figure they used.
my quick math says $25/hr
Yeah because those High School / College Students (probably more than 50% of the millions that play FF) earn close to that. :loco:
Not true. See my post two above yours (Post 31)
 
I work for myself but last year I was in a big meeting with three of the people I do quite a bit of business with.

All I could think about during the meeting was this trade that was proposed to me in my main league. :confused:

 
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jafo said:
People that will waste time instead of working will find something to waste time on. If it is football season they will look up fantasy football. If they are feeling horny they will look up pron. If they are into stocks then they will read up on them.The bottom line is simply having 'Internet Access' is what hits work productivity. Not fantasy football.
:goodposting:
 

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