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[raven1911]

Back to the original topic. Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

Was it a tear or was it a sprain of the MCL? I have seen it called both on many sites. FBG's says "Sprain".

ETA: One thing I did this year was I avoided all FF sites like the plague until 2 weeks ago following last year. I usually frequent these sites in the offseason. What I noticed is the MAJORITY of you guys tend to overthink think things way too much. There is also a HUGE amount of groupthink that goes on within the FBG's community some of which is good but a lot that tends to overvalue players due to hype.

This guy claims to be a doctor but KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MCL injuries. LT had a grade 2 MCL tear which heals WITHOUT surgery in a matter of a 3-6 weeks. When considering grade 3 or 4 tears, most doctors prefer to allow all MCL injuries to heal without surgery, very seldom do doctors prefer to surgically repair these higher grade tears to the MCL, as no significant difference has been demonstrated between the two techniques. In a grade 4 tear, which is called a medial column injury, and involves injury to more ligaments than just the MCL, whether or not to repair the MCL, even in these settings, is controversial. I would NOT worry about LT's injury as he has the best care in the world and the top doctors have seen his knee and made their suggestions. He will be fine and as of right now, is 100%. I very much dislike it when people speak about things like this and have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

Wow, talk about not knowing anything. There are only 3 grades of sprains, not 4 like you mention. Grade 2 sprains take anywhere from 6-8 weeks to heal, not 3-6 weeks (even for elite athletes). And they do in fact heal with scar tissue, which makes them more susceptible to reinjury. How else would they heal, genius?

Here is a link for anyone who doesn't believe me. MCL injuries

Some surgeons describe a so-called grade IV injury to the medial collateral ligament. This is also called a medial column injury, and involves injury to more ligaments than just the MCL. Its not in the orthopedic books but anyone that practices knows about a medial column injury.If you are learning your orthopedics from a website you obviously are not a practicing orthopedic doctor.

 

[raven1911]

Back to the original topic. Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

Was it a tear or was it a sprain of the MCL? I have seen it called both on many sites. FBG's says "Sprain".

ETA: One thing I did this year was I avoided all FF sites like the plague until 2 weeks ago following last year. I usually frequent these sites in the offseason. What I noticed is the MAJORITY of you guys tend to overthink think things way too much. There is also a HUGE amount of groupthink that goes on within the FBG's community some of which is good but a lot that tends to overvalue players due to hype.

This guy claims to be a doctor but KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MCL injuries. LT had a grade 2 MCL tear which heals WITHOUT surgery in a matter of a 3-6 weeks. When considering grade 3 or 4 tears, most doctors prefer to allow all MCL injuries to heal without surgery, very seldom do doctors prefer to surgically repair these higher grade tears to the MCL, as no significant difference has been demonstrated between the two techniques. In a grade 4 tear, which is called a medial column injury, and involves injury to more ligaments than just the MCL, whether or not to repair the MCL, even in these settings, is controversial. I would NOT worry about LT's injury as he has the best care in the world and the top doctors have seen his knee and made their suggestions. He will be fine and as of right now, is 100%. I very much dislike it when people speak about things like this and have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

Wow, talk about not knowing anything. There are only 3 grades of sprains, not 4 like you mention. Grade 2 sprains take anywhere from 6-8 weeks to heal, not 3-6 weeks (even for elite athletes). And they do in fact heal with scar tissue, which makes them more susceptible to reinjury. How else would they heal, genius?Here is a link for anyone who doesn't believe me. MCL injuries

Don't get your panties in a wad...Of course the body heals with scar tissue. In regards to your healing times indicated, explain how ADP had a grade 2 sprain (probably not a grade 3 as reported) and came back in 2 weeks full contact and finished the season without difficulty. Elite athletes do heal faster as they get better healthcare and are in much better physical shape than the average joe. I am willing to bet anything that ADP heals faster from an MCL tear than the layperson at walmart the same age as him. I work with athletes and am side by side with elite ortho docs all the time in rehab and all say 3-4 weeks for grade 2 and 3-4 months for grade 3 for complete healing. The MCL ligament get a lot of blood flow and heals relatively quickly.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Back to the original topic. Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

Was it a tear or was it a sprain of the MCL? I have seen it called both on many sites. FBG's says "Sprain".

ETA: One thing I did this year was I avoided all FF sites like the plague until 2 weeks ago following last year. I usually frequent these sites in the offseason. What I noticed is the MAJORITY of you guys tend to overthink think things way too much. There is also a HUGE amount of groupthink that goes on within the FBG's community some of which is good but a lot that tends to overvalue players due to hype.

This guy claims to be a doctor but KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MCL injuries. LT had a grade 2 MCL tear which heals WITHOUT surgery in a matter of a 3-6 weeks. When considering grade 3 or 4 tears, most doctors prefer to allow all MCL injuries to heal without surgery, very seldom do doctors prefer to surgically repair these higher grade tears to the MCL, as no significant difference has been demonstrated between the two techniques. In a grade 4 tear, which is called a medial column injury, and involves injury to more ligaments than just the MCL, whether or not to repair the MCL, even in these settings, is controversial. I would NOT worry about LT's injury as he has the best care in the world and the top doctors have seen his knee and made their suggestions. He will be fine and as of right now, is 100%. I very much dislike it when people speak about things like this and have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

Wow, talk about not knowing anything. There are only 3 grades of sprains, not 4 like you mention. Grade 2 sprains take anywhere from 6-8 weeks to heal, not 3-6 weeks (even for elite athletes). And they do in fact heal with scar tissue, which makes them more susceptible to reinjury. How else would they heal, genius?Here is a link for anyone who doesn't believe me. MCL injuries

Don't get your panties in a wad...Of course the body heals with scar tissue. In regards to your healing times indicated, explain how ADP had a grade 2 sprain (probably not a grade 3 as reported) and came back in 2 weeks full contact and finished the season without difficulty. Elite athletes do heal faster as they get better healthcare and are in much better physical shape than the average joe. I am willing to bet anything that ADP heals faster from an MCL tear than the layperson at walmart the same age as him. I work with athletes and am side by side with elite ortho docs all the time in rehab and all say 3-4 weeks for grade 2 and 3-4 months for grade 3 for complete healing. The MCL ligament get a lot of blood flow and heals relatively quickly.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I knew you were a PT

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Back to the original topic. Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

Was it a tear or was it a sprain of the MCL? I have seen it called both on many sites. FBG's says "Sprain".

ETA: One thing I did this year was I avoided all FF sites like the plague until 2 weeks ago following last year. I usually frequent these sites in the offseason. What I noticed is the MAJORITY of you guys tend to overthink think things way too much. There is also a HUGE amount of groupthink that goes on within the FBG's community some of which is good but a lot that tends to overvalue players due to hype.

This guy claims to be a doctor but KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT MCL injuries. LT had a grade 2 MCL tear which heals WITHOUT surgery in a matter of a 3-6 weeks. When considering grade 3 or 4 tears, most doctors prefer to allow all MCL injuries to heal without surgery, very seldom do doctors prefer to surgically repair these higher grade tears to the MCL, as no significant difference has been demonstrated between the two techniques. In a grade 4 tear, which is called a medial column injury, and involves injury to more ligaments than just the MCL, whether or not to repair the MCL, even in these settings, is controversial. I would NOT worry about LT's injury as he has the best care in the world and the top doctors have seen his knee and made their suggestions. He will be fine and as of right now, is 100%. I very much dislike it when people speak about things like this and have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

Wow, talk about not knowing anything. There are only 3 grades of sprains, not 4 like you mention. Grade 2 sprains take anywhere from 6-8 weeks to heal, not 3-6 weeks (even for elite athletes). And they do in fact heal with scar tissue, which makes them more susceptible to reinjury. How else would they heal, genius?Here is a link for anyone who doesn't believe me. MCL injuries

Don't get your panties in a wad...Of course the body heals with scar tissue. In regards to your healing times indicated, explain how ADP had a grade 2 sprain (probably not a grade 3 as reported) and came back in 2 weeks full contact and finished the season without difficulty. Elite athletes do heal faster as they get better healthcare and are in much better physical shape than the average joe. I am willing to bet anything that ADP heals faster from an MCL tear than the layperson at walmart the same age as him. I work with athletes and am side by side with elite ortho docs all the time in rehab and all say 3-4 weeks for grade 2 and 3-4 months for grade 3 for complete healing. The MCL ligament get a lot of blood flow and heals relatively quickly.

There is nothing exact in healthcare, but the average time is 6-8 weeks in my experience. ADP may not have had a severe sprain. Patients heal at different rates, of course, which is which is why you can't put too much emphasis on healing times. But, if you have any knowledge at all you know that a previously injured ligament will be more susceptible to injury. That is all.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I'm not getting my info from a website but need some evidence for those that don't believe me.

I'll say this post for later and we'll see how LT does this year.

 

[ImTheScientist]

I'm not getting my info from a website but need some evidence for those that don't believe me. I'll say this post for later and we'll see how LT does this year.

Do I get to bump this thread when S-Jax, Westbrook or Peterson gets injured? They have all had injury problems.ETA: I'll make sure to bump it with

 

[Ever Present Lurker]

I'm not getting my info from a website but need some evidence for those that don't believe me. I'll say this post for later and we'll see how LT does this year.

Riiiiiiiiiiight, sure you aren't! You'll notice that your website doesn't mention surgery as a treatment for an MCL injury. That's because it isn't a treatment. I've torn my MCL twice, and I'm a nurse. I've got some experience to draw from here. So the fact that LT hasn't had surgery to "correct" his MCL tear isn't scandalous. Once he's healed, there is no medical reason his knee shouldn't be as strong as before. Go play on google and see if you can find something to refute that on WebMD.

 

[JohnnyU]

Just to clarify, I'm not saying if you have the #1 pick to not draft LT....what I am saying is that he might be a RISK this year with his injury and lack of good backup. So, it may be a good year to trade that spot if you can get something out of it in return.

Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

I agree with you, now tell me why you shook your head when an earlier poster said it was a no brainer to trade 1.01 and a 7th rd pick for the 1.04 and a 2nd rd pick.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Just to clarify, I'm not saying if you have the #1 pick to not draft LT....what I am saying is that he might be a RISK this year with his injury and lack of good backup. So, it may be a good year to trade that spot if you can get something out of it in return.

Why is the OP so concerned about LT's injury last season when most people/experts don't even mention it?

I agree with you, now tell me why you shook your head when an earlier poster said it was a no brainer to trade 1.01 and a 7th rd pick for the 1.04 and a 2nd rd pick.

I was

 

[footballfreak99]

I've never had the #1 overall pick, but landed it this year and now that I have it I am thinking I might get rid of it, or at least see what I can get for it. Here's why...I can see 3 possible picks for #1 overall (LT, ADP, S. Jax). I realize most players do have issues, but it seems like all three of these guys carry significant risk this year. - LT is coming off MCL tear, did not get surgery to repair it (which makes him very susceptible to reinjury--ligaments that are stretched or torn and not repaired to not return to their original length, making them very prone to reinjury--kind of like an ankle injury that continues to plague and athlete). In addition, he has significant wear and tear....and for the 1st time in recent memory, does NOT have a solid backup in case he goes down- ADP is a sexy pick, but doesn't have a proven track record yet, and has shown in the past to be an injury risk. We don't know for sure how many carries he'll get with Chester in the mix, but likely won't see "workhorse" type numbers like LJ, Alexander, or LT have in the past that solidified them as #1 picks. The good news is that you can lock up Chester later on and not miss much like you would with the other 2 RBs I have listed. He is a high risk/high reward guy, not really what I want with my first pick.- S. Jackson is a beast when running healthy and behind a healthy OL. However, he struggled mightily last year in both those categories and has only had one year worthy of a top pick... whereas LT has done it before. He doesn't have a very strong backup either. No RBs are without risks, but it seems like this year is not the year to have a #1 PICK. I think trading it away and getting something in return may benefit you more this year than ever before. I'd like to maybe trade to a #3 or #4 pick and possibly still land one of either ADP or S Jax and also get a higher draft pick in the 2nd round.Am I crazy for wanting to get rid of this #1 PICK? Anyone else in the same boat or want to talk some sense into me?

I don't trade the 1 pick away unless Im just moving down to No. 2. Those draft slots are just worth too much this year.