12 team snake, If you can pick any draft position, which is the best? (1 Viewer)

[2ndtolast]

I'm curious as to people opinion on what the best draft pick it. I got #1 in this years draft, but I'm thinking of trying to trade down to #4 or 5.. I will still get an elite player, but I will pick that many spots earlier on the way back.. This particular league is a 12 team snake draft..

What do you think is the best position to have?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I'm curious as to people opinion on what the best draft pick it. I got #1 in this years draft, but I'm thinking of trying to trade down to #4 or 5.. I will still get an elite player, but I will pick that many spots earlier on the way back.. This particular league is a 12 team snake draft.. What do you think is the best position to have?

1st and try to trade down... I'd like to pick somewhere 3-5 this year in PPR dynasties

 

[rizzler]

IMO you want one of Foster, AP, CJ2k, charles, rice, mendenhall, mccoy.

To me, those are the "elite" of this years draft at the RB position. Therefore I would personally love to be at 7 spot at the LATEST, so I can guarantee myself one of those players. Then have a beautiful return pick as well.

Sure, there are good RBs after this pick, but as I said, IMO, those are the "elite" tier... and I gotta get one.

Not exactly answering, but anything within the first 7 spots and Ill be thrilled.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Personally, I like to be right in the middle of the pack on re-drafts, so a 6 or 7 pick in a twelve-team league is optimal for me. Never too far away from my next pick and not likely to get caught in positional runs. More likely I'll be able to start runs and then shift to another position while everyone else scrambles.

That's my opinion anyway. Not everybody likes it that way though.

 

[LHUCKS]

It looks like Rice can be safely had at the #4 or #5 spot...since he's my #1RB in PPR standard 1/2/3/1 I would want the #4.

#4 is also close enough to the middle where you can maneuver for trades more easily...also you don't get killed by runs.

#4 this year.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

need scoring and starting requirements

 

[Captain Hook]

I'm curious as to people opinion on what the best draft pick it. I got #1 in this years draft, but I'm thinking of trying to trade down to #4 or 5.. I will still get an elite player, but I will pick that many spots earlier on the way back.. This particular league is a 12 team snake draft.. What do you think is the best position to have?

The "particulars" would also include the type of scoring and whether this is keeper or more likely redraftBUT as a general rule you would have to have an awfully GOOD reason (like 3RR) to not take the #1 pick

 

[2ndtolast]

It's a heavy PPR & yardage league. QB's dominate, then top WR or RB who catch passes. Both passing & running yards are the same value, so the PPR makes a difference. We have a guy who is willing to deal in the #8 spot, I'm think that may be too far down this year. I generally like being in the middle for the sole reason not getting screwed on runs.. a lot can happen waiting for 23 picks till your next turn!

QB-WR-RB-TE

Here are the starters:

Min Max

Active QB 1 1

Active RB 1 2

Active WR 2 3

Active TE 1 2

Active K 1 1

Active DST 1 1

 

[Carolina Hustler]

It's a heavy PPR & yardage league. QB's dominate, then top WR or RB who catch passes. Both passing & running yards are the same value, so the PPR makes a difference. We have a guy who is willing to deal in the #8 spot, I'm think that may be too far down this year. I generally like being in the middle for the sole reason not getting screwed on runs.. a lot can happen waiting for 23 picks till your next turn!QB-WR-RB-TEHere are the starters: Min MaxActive QB 1 1 Active RB 1 2 Active WR 2 3 Active TE 1 2 Active K 1 1 Active DST 1 1

Looks like a RB/QB league.. I think you'd do alright taking a QB first round if they score the same per yard passed and the RB/WR'sI think I'd want a top 7 pick and would include 2 QB's and 5 RB's in my top 7

 

[2ndtolast]

It's a heavy PPR & yardage league. QB's dominate, then top WR or RB who catch passes. Both passing & running yards are the same value, so the PPR makes a difference. We have a guy who is willing to deal in the #8 spot, I'm think that may be too far down this year. I generally like being in the middle for the sole reason not getting screwed on runs.. a lot can happen waiting for 23 picks till your next turn!QB-WR-RB-TEHere are the starters: Min MaxActive QB 1 1 Active RB 1 2 Active WR 2 3 Active TE 1 2 Active K 1 1 Active DST 1 1

Looks like a RB/QB league.. I think you'd do alright taking a QB first round if they score the same per yard passed and the RB/WR'sI think I'd want a top 7 pick and would include 2 QB's and 5 RB's in my top 7

rushing & receiving yards are the same, passing is less.. QB's still generally score more than WR's or RB's though.

 

[CalBear]

In terms of expected production, it's pretty clear that #1 is better than any other pick; not only do you get the player with the highest expected production, you also get the first pick of the third round, where picks still have significant value differential. At the end of the second round, you already have value that's at least equivalent to everyone else, and probably better than most, plus you still get the first pick of the third round.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

It's a heavy PPR & yardage league. QB's dominate, then top WR or RB who catch passes. Both passing & running yards are the same value, so the PPR makes a difference. We have a guy who is willing to deal in the #8 spot, I'm think that may be too far down this year. I generally like being in the middle for the sole reason not getting screwed on runs.. a lot can happen waiting for 23 picks till your next turn!QB-WR-RB-TEHere are the starters: Min MaxActive QB 1 1 Active RB 1 2 Active WR 2 3 Active TE 1 2 Active K 1 1 Active DST 1 1

Looks like a RB/QB league.. I think you'd do alright taking a QB first round if they score the same per yard passed and the RB/WR'sI think I'd want a top 7 pick and would include 2 QB's and 5 RB's in my top 7

rushing & receiving yards are the same, passing is less.. QB's still generally score more than WR's or RB's though.

OK, pass catching RB's top the list then..But you did say "Both passing & running yards are the same value".. maybe you meant to type something different.I'd stick with my original statement, I'd want a top 5 pick..Maybe trade looks like this:1.12.1210.12<for>1.52.87.5

 

[Tornacl]

Personally, I would trade to a different league - I hate the single snake. I'm a much bigger fan of the 3rd Round Reversal or Double Snake.

But to answer the post, unless you're really crazy about one particular player, I would trade down if you could keep your 3rd round pick. (If you believe the pick value calculators, the higher picks have a big advantage in re-draft, so it's not worth it to trade down straight up.)

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Normal snake draft -- #1 easily.

 

[GregR_2]

I'm curious as to people opinion on what the best draft pick it. I got #1 in this years draft, but I'm thinking of trying to trade down to #4 or 5.. I will still get an elite player, but I will pick that many spots earlier on the way back.. This particular league is a 12 team snake draft.. What do you think is the best position to have?

I gather you're talking about a wholesale swap of all picks for the pair of draft slots? If so I think you're pursuing an unwise course of action.The 1.1 is the most valuable pick. Even if you like 3, 5 or 7 players in the first round, you still have a preference and no pick is better than the 1.1. If you swap 1st round picks, you're losing value that you need to make back up.The combination of the 2.12 and 3.1 pick is more valuable than any other slot's 2nd and 3rd round pick combined. So you've lost value in the first round, and now you lose even more value when swapping the 2nd and 3rd round picks. (I say this about the value based on both my own beliefs and that the FBG draft value calculator agrees as well if you enter the 2.12 and 3.1 compared to the pair of picks for any other swap, the 2.12 and 3.1 are the preferred pair to have.)I'm personally less certain about the value of the 4th and 5th pairs of picks, but the draft pick calculator still has you losing if you swap the #1 slot's picks for anyone else. See where this is going? You're losing out on value all the way through the draft on every pair of rounds. You're going to end up with an overall less valuable set of picks. (ETA: As someone else mentioned, that 3.1 pick is a real difference maker in the value of the rest of your picks after the 1st round).Instead I would look at just trading the #1 pick for another 1st round pick plus some considerations in later rounds that improve that subset of picks by a larger value than you think you lose in the 1st. Like if you're happy getting the 6th RB this year instead of the 1st, try to trade 1.1, 4.12 and 6.12 for 1.6, 3.6 and 5.6. Or you could do the 1.1, 4.12 and 8.12 for the 1.6, 3.6 and 7.6, and you'd still probably come out ahead. The draft pick calculator says that 1.1 and 4.12 for 1.6 and 3.6 is about an even trade.

 

[Clifford]

I like the number 6. I can get McFadden there safely and I think he finishes in the top three, possibly number 1.

 

[sihaokills]

RB

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I would want a top 3 pick for Foster, Johnson or ADP. If not them, then put me at the 10-12 spot. I am not as high as most on Rice and Mendenhall.

 

[sihaokills]

I would want a top 3 pick for Foster, Johnson or ADP. If not them, then put me at the 10-12 spot. I am not as high as most on Rice and Mendenhall.

No McCoy or Charles???

 

[gibfunk]

I may be biased because of my draw, but #4 is money this year. If the top three go Foster, ADP, CJ, then I get most likely Rice although Charles is invading my thought process daily. If the first three don't go as intended, then I'm left with a choice of 2-4 studs that all have virtually the same ceiling. I can't really go wrong, barring injury.

 

[Tanner9919]

6 or 7 is usually best IMO..

you're beyond the hyped players at this point and still able to get a stud RB in the first round..depending on your scoring system ( PPR is a plus here), you can nab the #1 wr on the board at 6-7, as this is usually the spot where the top 5 RB's have been taken and maybe a QB...you're left with D. McFadden, McCoy, or,say, Andre Johnson...

it seems to me that the first half of the first round is RB territory, the 2nd half is mostly WR's and QBs..so you're

not going to get the top 5 RBs, but you'll get one on the fringe of that, or the best WR in the game..I'd almost rather have AJ than Foster ,because I know AJ will bring it week in and week out..not 100% sold on Foster just yet ( yes, I own him and I'm worried he won't repeat his 2010 performance).

late third round/early fourth is where TE's start flying off the board (if you're league uses PPR for WR/TE). so you're in the thick of things where that is concerned..

being in the middle of a round also means your in the middle of most player 'runs', you know, when guys start grabbing a certain position, one after the other for 5-6 picks in a row..if you're picking 12th/13th, and the run on defenses starts at #1, you're on the outside looking in..

picking first gives you the #1 fantasy player and the 24th/25th.

picking sixth gives you the #6 fantasy player, 19th/30th.

I'd prefer the 6th overall pick for that reason..I don't have to wait 22 picks before it comes back to me..I'd rather work with 6,19,30 instead of 1,24,25 because if the #1 overall pick busts or is injured,i'm screwed..I think you put more weight behind a guy at the #1 overall pick than you would at #6..if I get McCoy at #6, and he gets hurt I could live with it, but if Foster got hurt at the #1 spot, I'd be in trouble..at best, my #2 RB would have been the 24th pick in the draft - i.e., probably not even a top 20 RB..that drop is significant..

 

[fightingillini]

I like pick 5. I know that I am getting one of the top 5 RBs. At worst it's Rice or Charles. Then I get pick 20 I have options.....I can either get a top #2RB, a top QB, or one of the top 7 WRs. I would expect 12 RBs, 2QBs and 5WRs selected before it comes back to me at 20. If this distribution was accurate, I would probably go with the WR in a PPR league. At pick 29 I can secure a decent #2RB there.

 

[steelcityman]

slightly different, but in a 10 team league I had the #1 last night and I got a pretty good team.

I went ADP first, then Nicks and Calvin, then not in order...Big Ben, Dallas Clark, Mathews, Felix Jones, Brandon Marshall, Torain, Kellon Winslow, Stafford, Tebow, Rackers, and Giants. There might be a name or two I am missing, but I was happy to get that team from the 1 slot.

But in my big money league I am drafting 3rd and like that more. APD, Foster, CJohnson...I get one of them.

 

[FF Ninja]

Don't worry about the first round. The key is to be in the middle so you never have to reach too far for a guy. In 2008 I just HAD to have AJ, but he was going mid-3rd round. I was forced to take him at 2.01 since I had the 12th pick. That was like an 18 pick reach. Worst case scenario if you are drafting in the middle is that you take a 12 pick reach.