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[chickensoup]

That's not the point as to why getting Rodgers first is a bad idea (talking 12 team 4 point TD start 1QB)

It's all a matter of where you can get the QB vs stability at RB. Barring injury, if you take say, Ryan in the 7th round, the difference between Rodgers and Ryan and between Foster and whoever you can get in the 7th round (Donald brown, Starks, heck I've seen Wilson taken there) is what tells the tale. Rodgers to Ryan is less of a risk that foster to Starks or Foster to brown in both situation and talent. I'd guess in standard scoring foster scores more points than brown and Starks combined as a matter of fact.

To me the only viable reason I can see to take Rodgers first is if you buy into Matthew Berrys god awful draft day manifesto where guaranteed points plus less injury risk outweigh RB scarcity and his assumption that you will be the one to find the diamond in the rough RB that far outperforms his ADP

 

[shadyridr]

That's not the point as to why getting Rodgers first is a bad idea (talking 12 team 4 point TD start 1QB)It's all a matter of where you can get the QB vs stability at RB. Barring injury, if you take say, Ryan in the 7th round, the difference between Rodgers and Ryan and between Foster and whoever you can get in the 7th round (Donald brown, Starks, heck I've seen Wilson taken there) is what tells the tale. Rodgers to Ryan is less of a risk that foster to Starks or Foster to brown in both situation and talent. I'd guess in standard scoring foster scores more points than brown and Starks combined as a matter of fact.To me the only viable reason I can see to take Rodgers first is if you buy into Matthew Berrys god awful draft day manifesto where guaranteed points plus less injury risk outweigh RB scarcity and his assumption that you will be the one to find the diamond in the rough RB that far outperforms his ADP

Id like to do the math on that as well as Rodgers/2nd rd RB vs Foster/2nd rd QB

 

[cheese]

That's not the point as to why getting Rodgers first is a bad idea (talking 12 team 4 point TD start 1QB)It's all a matter of where you can get the QB vs stability at RB. Barring injury, if you take say, Ryan in the 7th round, the difference between Rodgers and Ryan and between Foster and whoever you can get in the 7th round (Donald brown, Starks, heck I've seen Wilson taken there) is what tells the tale. Rodgers to Ryan is less of a risk that foster to Starks or Foster to brown in both situation and talent. I'd guess in standard scoring foster scores more points than brown and Starks combined as a matter of fact.To me the only viable reason I can see to take Rodgers first is if you buy into Matthew Berrys god awful draft day manifesto where guaranteed points plus less injury risk outweigh RB scarcity and his assumption that you will be the one to find the diamond in the rough RB that far outperforms his ADP

I think you really should be looking at the difference between Foster and whoever you start as your last RB compared to the Rodgers/Ryan dropoff. What I mean is if your draft is something like QB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WR, RB, RB, WR, RB, QB.... etc. It only matters what points get in your lineup. Even if you throw out the 2nd rounder as say he's RB1, it's easier to get A RB to produce in the same planet as Foster when you're usually holding 3 or 4 extra RBs than it is to get a QB to compete with Rodgers. You can't JUST look at the RB you picked 7th because RB is a position where late round flyers step up all the time if you have that spot open. People went nuts over Cam last year because you almost never see a QB blow up from the late rounds. I also don't agree with just throwing out "barring injury" as if you can just ignore that. The odds of a Foster injury and a Rodgers injury are not equal.

 

[chickensoup]

The problem with the late RB fliers is just that, they are fliers and require you to pick the correct one or be the one to get them off waivers.

In a 1QB league picking Rodgers first overall means your starting point for RB is probably in the SJax range. You could go QB/RB/RB and get something close to Rodgers/SJax/AP(or maybe Charles if he lasts that long) and it would be fine but you're heaving a ton of points on the table. To the guys after you taking McCoy/Rice/Foster. And either a second round QB (depends on who is there could even be Brees or Stafford) or another RB.

I guess it's comfort level in all reality. If your comfortable with the guys you can get in the late second or early third at RB Rodgers could be good for you, but you leave a lot on the table and you have to hit on other guys at RB to make up the points.

I mentioned injury aside because there are very few players I ever handicap for mid year injury. DMC, Best, Vick and Gates might be the only guys I predict an injury to this year. Besides those guys the RB you take at the 2.12/3.01 turn is just as likely to get injured as Foster or McCoy in my eyes. Not taking a RB first when those 3 options are pretty safe points wise because of injury possibility is on the long run a fools game IMO

 

[shadyridr]

The problem with the late RB fliers is just that, they are fliers and require you to pick the correct one or be the one to get them off waivers.In a 1QB league picking Rodgers first overall means your starting point for RB is probably in the SJax range. You could go QB/RB/RB and get something close to Rodgers/SJax/AP(or maybe Charles if he lasts that long) and it would be fine but you're heaving a ton of points on the table. To the guys after you taking McCoy/Rice/Foster. And either a second round QB (depends on who is there could even be Brees or Stafford) or another RB.I guess it's comfort level in all reality. If your comfortable with the guys you can get in the late second or early third at RB Rodgers could be good for you, but you leave a lot on the table and you have to hit on other guys at RB to make up the points.I mentioned injury aside because there are very few players I ever handicap for mid year injury. DMC, Best, Vick and Gates might be the only guys I predict an injury to this year. Besides those guys the RB you take at the 2.12/3.01 turn is just as likely to get injured as Foster or McCoy in my eyes. Not taking a RB first when those 3 options are pretty safe points wise because of injury possibility is on the long run a fools game IMO

Did you do the math on foster/stafford vs rodgers/charles using projections?

 

[bagger]

Aaron Rodgers. Who's with me?

who do you have projected at rb that will significantly exceed their adp?if you feel strongly enough about some mid rounders as every day starters it is a good move. however there is very little room for error, and you are probably over projecting rodgers' stats.

 

[cheese]

The problem with the late RB fliers is just that, they are fliers and require you to pick the correct one or be the one to get them off waivers.

In a 1QB league picking Rodgers first overall means your starting point for RB is probably in the SJax range. You could go QB/RB/RB and get something close to Rodgers/SJax/AP(or maybe Charles if he lasts that long) and it would be fine but you're heaving a ton of points on the table. To the guys after you taking McCoy/Rice/Foster. And either a second round QB (depends on who is there could even be Brees or Stafford) or another RB.

I guess it's comfort level in all reality. If your comfortable with the guys you can get in the late second or early third at RB Rodgers could be good for you, but you leave a lot on the table and you have to hit on other guys at RB to make up the points.

I mentioned injury aside because there are very few players I ever handicap for mid year injury. DMC, Best, Vick and Gates might be the only guys I predict an injury to this year. Besides those guys the RB you take at the 2.12/3.01 turn is just as likely to get injured as Foster or McCoy in my eyes. Not taking a RB first when those 3 options are pretty safe points wise because of injury possibility is on the long run a fools game IMO

Agree, but Rodgers is not as likely to get injured as Foster or McCoy which is more relevant. To your main point, I'm not that comfortable with the RB's at 24/25 either this year. Then again, I'm not comfortable getting railroaded at QB again this year by the Rodgers/Brees owners because I feel like Rodgers is a lock to do it again, a much bigger lock than any RB. It's a tough decision, obviously.

As I have mentioned earlier, I do play MOSTLY 6pt TD leagues so I don't really have to consider scenerios where Stafford or Newton makes it to 24 (let alone Brees). Those scenerios are far more relevant though in standard 4 PATD leagues. I'm not sure what I would do there. I am confident that I don't like waiting on QB in any format this year.

 

[Sinn Fein]

 

[glumpy]

Last year Rodgers at 1.01 won the league. This year Rodgers will again be picked 1.01.

 

[Dez]

I passed in 1 draft already on Rodgers at 2.02 and landed Brees at 3.11. Love that trade off.

I am pretty sure I won't be owning Rodgers in any league this year with where he is going. I just can't stomach taking a QB that early.

Got him at 1.07 in a dynasty draft in July and traded him before my 2nd round pick. (Got Julio and Forte for Rodgers/pick 34)

 

[ffinmyblood]

The problem most of you have is you play in 4 pt passing TD leagues. No wonder FF pisses me off so much now days. No one can even score it correctly anymore. Quick question....how many points do they get in the NFL for a passing TD?? Just wondering.

 

[Dez]

The problem most of you have is you play in 4 pt passing TD leagues. No wonder FF pisses me off so much now days. No one can even score it correctly anymore. Quick question....how many points do they get in the NFL for a passing TD?? Just wondering.

They get 0 pts the credit for the TD goes to the guy catching the pass.

 

[isiahcleaves]

I just found out I have the 1st overall pick in a 12 team, 6 points for all TDs (-2 points for INTs), non PPR... but otherwise standard performance scoring league. My first inclination is to try to trade the pick. If that doesn't happen, I'm leaning towards Rodgers. I've never... in 20 years of playing fantasy football... taken a QB in round 1, but he seems like the absolute safest bet to put up numbers worthy of being drafted in the top 5 OA at seasons end with this scoring format.

I would really appreciate it if one of the footballguys staff members weigh in on this. Why would Foster or Rice still make the most sense in a format like this?

I'm positive I won't get Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Stafford/Newton if I wait until the 2/3 turn. Is Ryan(or whoever you would view as the 6th best qb/Foster a better start than say Rodgers/RB12 (someone like FJax, ADP, or MJD)?

 

[meatwad1]

I've got the number 2 this year in a Packer homer league....I am pretty sure #1 is going to be Rodgers. Make no mistake, I love Arod at 2 if he falls, but i really like rice this year and if i had 1, I would seriously consider Rice...I think balt is going to be the team to beat this year.

 

[meatwad1]

I just found out I have the 1st overall pick in a 12 team, 6 points for all TDs (-2 points for INTs), non PPR... but otherwise standard performance scoring league. My first inclination is to try to trade the pick. If that doesn't happen, I'm leaning towards Rodgers. I've never... in 20 years of playing fantasy football... taken a QB in round 1, but he seems like the absolute safest bet to put up numbers worthy of being drafted in the top 5 OA at seasons end with this scoring format. I would really appreciate it if one of the footballguys staff members weigh in on this. Why would Foster or Rice still make the most sense in a format like this? I'm positive I won't get Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Stafford/Newton if I wait until the 2/3 turn. Is Ryan(or whoever you would view as the 6th best qb/Foster a better start than say Rodgers/RB12 (someone like FJax, ADP, or MJD)?

You can get 2 stud wrs at the 2/3 turn... a combo of AJ/Fitz/White/jennings/ Jones/Nicks/ Wallace will there if all of those qbs are picked. Then in the later rounds you can grab Eli/Ryan/Cutler/Shaub/Rivers/Vick/Bigben/Romo/manning. That is not bad.

 

[Mr. Mardi Gras]

Something fishy about this.

vote Sinn Fein

 

[JoePlumber]

proxy SinnFein

 

[Yenrub]

I drafted over the weekend and took Rodgers with the #1 pick. We are allowed to keep to players from the previous year (forfeiting the round in which the player was drafted the previous year). 12 team league. Here are my results

1.01 – Aaron Rodgers

2.12 – Michael Turner

3.01 – Doug Martin (passed on Frank Gore)

4.12 – DeSean Jackson

5.01 – Percy Harvin

6.12 – Steve Johnson

7.01 – Rob Gronkowski (keeper from last year)

8.12 – Cedric Benson

9.01 – David Wilson

10.12 – Kevin Smith (keeper from last year)

11.01 – Jacquizz Rodgers

12.12 – Brandon LaFell

13.01 – Buffalo Defense

14.12 – Christian Ponder

15.01 – Pierre Thomas

16.12 – Jerome Simpson

17.01 – Alshon Jeffery

18.12 – Kyle Rudolph

I still need to add a kicker before the season starts

 

[shadyridr]

 

[Sinn Fein]

I'm in the championship game. Who else is with me?

 

[butcher boy]

I'm in the championship game. Who else is with me?

Drew Brees here. We're like cousins.

 

[Yenrub]

I'm in the championship game. Who else is with me?

My league has a week 17 championship but I am still alive (because I earned a week 15 bye)

 

[Warrior]

I'm in the championship game. Who else is with me?

Very few Aaron Rodgers owners.And you're probably facing the Matt Ryan owner.

 

[Please See Mine]

I'm in the championship game. Who else is with me?

Very few Aaron Rodgers owners.And you're probably facing the Matt Ryan owner.

YEah, in the QB-RB Championship thread, there are probably at least 100 teams posted. QB BreakdownsRyan - 26Brady - 17Brees - 15Rodgers - 12