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2007 Draft Preview - Very Early Look (1 Viewer)

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(From SanDiegoRon on the Chargers board)

First Rd Projection

1. Brady Quinn, QB, 6-4 230 4.72, Notre Dame - If he had come out this year, he might have been the second quarterback taken. But staying in school to play in the pro-style offense used by Charlie Weis will only help his draft stock. Quinn enters next season nearly as strong a favorite to be drafted No. 1 overall as Reggie Bush was this time last year. The Irish quarterback has the prototype combination of size, arm and the intelligence scouts are looking for. He enters his senior season already Notre Dame's career leader in passing yardage (8,336) and touchdowns passes (58).

2. Calvin Johnson, Jr., WR, 6-4, 235 4.50, Georgia Tech - A junior in 2006, this kid has all the tools to be a great one. He's big and fast and polished. He's almost a lock to come out next year. At times last season, it became obvious that Johnson was out growing the college game and becoming a pro caliber receiver, who just wasn’t getting paid. Don’t pay too much attention to his pedestrian numbers - coming into this season, he has 102 receptions for 1,725 yards and 13 TDs - which have more to do with double teams and a battery mate that won’t play quarterback beyond Tech. When sizing up Johnson, the only numbers that matter are the ones that will be off the charts at the NFL combine. He’s also a model citizen from a great family, and the early favorite to be the first receiver taken next April. *** wow, leisure & I agree...

3. Sidney Rice, 3rd So., WR, 6-3 200 4.55, South Carolina - Rice is a sophomore, but sat out 2004 with a bum knee, making him eligible for the 2007 draft. He won’t pass it up. Some players are just built for Sundays, and Rice is one of them. He’s an athletic receiver, who, has a knack for skying above defenders and plucking the ball off the horizon. Coming into this season, he has 58 receptions for 952 yards and 12 TDs - that he’s the best receiver Steve Spurrier has ever coached may be part hyperbole, but being the SEC’s top receiver two years running will be proof enough Rice is ready for the next level. *** I fully expect Rice & Johnson to be battling for the first WR off the board... the combine should be interesting...

4. Joe Thomas, LOT, 6-8 303 4.90, Wisconsin - He thought about entering this year's draft but suffered a serious leg injury in the Badgers' bowl game. That forced him to stay in school. He's a big tackle who excels blocking for the run, although he plays on the left side. Had it not been for a knee injury against Auburn in the Capital One Bowl, Thomas likely would have forgone his senior season and applied for the 2006 NFL draft. A former defensive end, he has the athleticism and consistency teams are looking for in a first-round tackle. *** yikes, a solid top pick if the knee heals...

5. Adrian Peterson, Jr., RB, 6-1, 215 4.40, Oklahoma - He is an elite runner with good size and speed. We've watched him since he stepped onto the campus make big plays, and after his junior season, you can bet he'll be ready to try the next level. He’s a once-every-generation franchise back, who’ll have a difficult time ignoring the high first-round grade he gets later this year. Not since Bo Jackson 20 years ago has a college back had such a blend of power and speed, and depending on the need of its owner, the top overall pick could be Peterson or Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn.

6. Levi Brown, LOT, 6-5 325 5.28, Penn State - He's a pretty good athlete for a man that big. Brown combines great size, skills and athleticism - His efforts in the weight room and off-season conditioning have helped him add muscle while improving his speed and agility. Although quarterback Michael Robinson certainly was the spark for a surprising Penn State offense last season, one could make the argument that Brown supplied the steel. Brown has started 34 of the past 35 games for the Nittany Lions and earned second-team All-America honors last year. *** Blaylock may be the second OT taken, but this guy is a manster...

7. Paul Posluszny, ILB, 6-2 230 4.56, Penn State - He injured a knee in the Orange Bowl victory over FSU; otherwise he would have been in this year's draft. He could be next year's A.J. Hawk. He not only won the Butkus Award as the nation's elite linebacker, but also the Chuck Bednarik Award as the nation's top defensive player. His 116 tackles led the team and his consistency became a trademark. Last season he became the first Big Ten student-athlete selected Football Player of the Week (Offense, Defense or Special Teams) three consecutive weeks since the conference began the selections in 1987. *** this could be a bit high, we'll see....

8. Quentin Moses, DE, 6-5 255 4.76, Georgia - He is one of those speed rushers teams crave. He is 6-5, 260 and he had 10½ sacks last year. If he can continue to get better, Moss has a chance to be a really high pick. Though last season was Moses' first as a starter, he was so productive he very nearly left early for the NFL. The Bulldog defensive end finished second in the SEC with 11.5 sacks and 20.5 tackles for loss. Blessed with instincts and a great first step, expect a monster season from Moses in 2006. *** O My, what a stud...

9. LaRon Landry, FS, 6-2 205 4.46, LSU - At 6-2, 205, he has size and range to be an effective free safety on the next level. He always seems to be around the ball. One of the top defensive backs in the country since he first stepped onto the field for the Bayou Bengals -- earning SEC accolades since his freshman season. He is an athletic, instinctive and incredibly productive free safety who led LSU in tackles in both 2003 and 2004 and enters his senior season with 241 career tackles to go along with 9 interceptions and 18 passes broken up. *** And the Best Centerfielder available… other than Calvin and Sidney, my 07 flavor of the month(s)...

10. Drew Stanton, QB, 6-3 226 4.79, Michigan State - He's a big, strong-armed quarterback who improved greatly last year. If he continues to grow, he has a chance to be a high pick. The tools are there. Stanton toyed with the notion of leaving school after his junior season. He certainly has shown the NFL combination of size, athleticism, toughness and arm strength. Scouts would like to see him develop a little more consistency. A likely second-round pick had he entered the 2006 draft, a little refining next season could bump his stock into the high first round. *** I could have him too low...

11. Gaines Adams, DE, 6-5 260 4.76, Clemson - He's another player with speed off the corner. He almost came out this year, but another year could mean a lot of money to him. Over the final month and a half of the 2005 season, there might not have been a more dominant pass rusher than Adams. He had 11.5 tackles for loss, 7 sacks and 16 quarterback pressures in the final six games. Adams finished the season with 29 quarterback pressures, 9.5 sacks and 15 tackles for loss to lead Clemson in all three areas. Scouts are excited about his size, burst and long arms. The defensive end actually led the team in passes broken up (9) last season. *** wow!!!

12. Brandon Meriweather, FS, 6-0 190 4.49, Miami - The latest in a long line of talented Miami defensive backs, Meriweather enters his senior season as one of the elite safeties in the country. A veteran of 19 starts over 40 games, Meriweather has seen action at strong and free safety, and some feel he has the athleticism to eventually move to cornerback. His career numbers include 202 tackles, 15 tackles for loss, 17 passes broken up and six interceptions. *** Not much separate Landry & Merriweather – it should be a dogfight to see who goes first… I'd take either...

13. Daymeion Hughes, CB, 6-2 188 4.52, Cal - The Pac-10 has a bit of a reputation for being the "pass-happy" conference of the BCS. Hughes was a team-team all conference cornerback in 2005 who held up against several potent passing attacks. Hughes finished with 62 tackles last season and challenged quarterbacks to throw his way. They weren't often successful. The angular corner finished with 12 passes broken up and five interceptions. *** This draft is thin at CB – his stock will rise as a function of that….

14. Justin Blalock, ROT, 6-4 330 5.30, Texas - Blaylock is a power player who has played mostly right tackle. He is a better pro prospect than teammate Jon Scott, who came out this year. While Jonathan Scott earned most of the headlines, Texas coaches will tell you that the most talented Longhorn offensive lineman last year was Blalock. He has started all 38 games during his career, all at right tackle, and has earned Big 12 accolades after each of his three seasons. *** McNeill/Blaylock - O My....

15. Dwayne Jarrett, Jr., WR, 6-5 210 4.57, USC — Jarrett pulled down 91 balls in 2005 and led the country with 16 touchdown receptions. Jarrett has great hands, and a real safe bet to be the next Trojan to turn the three-year college plan into a fat, first-day signing bonus. *** Who will be the third WR off the board, Jarrett/Samardzija/Ginn???

16. Jeff Samardzija, WR, 6-5 216 4.58, Notre Dame - He might be the best senior receiver on the board. He flourished last year when Weis came from the Patriots and broke Irish records for most receiving yards (1,249) and touchdowns (15) in a single season, and tied a 35-year-old record for most receptions (77). Samardzija has rare hand-eye coordination and has shown a knack for making the spectacular reception amid tight coverage.

17. Marshawn Lynch, Jr., RB, 5-11 220 4.46, California - This junior has put up some big numbers in Cal's offense. He averaged 6.4 per rush last year, which shows he's a big-time speed back. As it stands today, the 2007 draft looks as if it’ll be light on top running backs, which could be the impetus for an early departure from Lynch. He’s a premier back with breakaway speed and a penchant for shedding tacklers. In two years at Cal, he’s averaging more than seven yards a carry and can also contribute on special teams and in the passing game. Lynch has only scratched the surface of his potential, and has showed signs in the off-season that he’s preparing for a monster junior year.

18. Ted Ginn, Jr., WR, 6-0 170 4.37, Ohio State - Everyone knows Ginn has mercurial speed and can’t be caught once he gets behind a secondary or punt coverage team, but is he physically ready for the demands of the NFL? The word around Columbus is that Ginn has added a few pounds and is becoming a more complete receiver.

19. Jake Long, Jr., LOT, 6-7 330 5.00, Michigan - Long, who’s making the switch from right to left tackle in 2006, has shed 20 pounds since last year’s injury-riddled season and looked quicker and stronger than ever this spring. He’s 6-7, but is much more than a big body, displaying excellent footwork and technique to go along with his brute strength and ability to overpower opposing linemen on running plays. If he’s successful protecting Chad Henne’s blindside this season, his stock will soar even higher by the end of his junior campaign. *** nice set of OTs, but will they disappoint???

20. Frank Okam, Jr., DT, 6-5 315 5.00, Texas – Look for Okam to become the star of the Longhorn defense, a role he’s capable of playing. He is the kind of prototypical, two-gap NFL tackle that all 32 franchises covet. Okam moves extremely well and can provide a pass rush like few others at his position. He’s also bright and hard working, and is going to get a projection later this year from the league’s advisory committee that might be too tempting to pass up. *** This guy will be fun to track from a NT perspective...

21. Alan Branch, Jr., DT, 6-6, 325, Michigan - Branch came on like gangbusters during last year’s sophomore season, muscling his way into the starting lineup and displaying insane quickness and agility for an interior lineman. He flipped between end and tackle a year ago, a testament to his versatility, and closed the year with a career-high eight tackles and five tackles for loss in a dominant Alamo Bowl performance. Because hulking tackles that can pressure the quarterback are such a rarity, Branch is going to make himself a bundle of money if he continues improving in 2006. *** definately on my radar, as well...

*** Solid D-lineman draft...

22. Michael Bush, RB, 6-2 248 4.68, Louisville – This Bush is a power runner at 250 pounds, but he gets the job done. Bush is an incredible combination of size, speed and pure athleticism. He spent his senior season in high school playing quarterback after seeing action at running back, wide receiver, defensive back, linebacker and defensive end over his career. Not only did he lead Big East in rushing, but in all-purpose yardage as well. Bush shows shockingly soft hands (48 receptions over his career, 640 yards, 2 TDs).

23. Patrick Willis, ILB, 6-2 232 4.65, Mississippi - He led the SEC in tackles last year, which says something about his ability to get to the football… a 2005 All-American and the nation's leader in average solo tackles per game (9.0). Willis finished last season with 128 total tackles, 9.5 tackles for loss (-42), three sacks (-28), two caused fumbles, one fumble recovery, three passes defensed, two quarterback pressures and one pass interception. Willis produced despite struggling through a broken middle finger on his right hand, a sprained left knee, a right mid-foot injury and a partial AC joint separation of his right shoulder. He underwent successful surgery to his right foot last December and has been sidelined since, although he is expected to be ready by August. *** Nice!!!

24. Antoine Cason, CB, 6-1 180 4.43, Arizona - Good cover corners always seem to rise to the top of a draft. Cason has that ability. Playing in Arizona's aggressive defense, he gets a lot of chances to play man coverage, which scouts love to see. Cason has yet to miss a down in two seasons and has been in on 120 tackles, 92 of which were unassisted. Package his physical play with 4.4 speed and an infectious work ethic, and you’ve got the ingredients of a future first-day draft choice. *** It’s likely I have him too low, as corners will be few this year and at a premium…

25. Sam Baker, Jr., LOT, 6-9, 330 5.20, USC - A returning All-American, he’s been the Trojans’ anchor two years running, a distinction that won’t be changing in the upcoming season. Baker seals off edge rushers as well as any returning tackle in the country, which will be especially important in 2006 since he’ll be protecting the quarterback’s backside for the first time in his college career. *** yet another OT rated very high/first rd...

26. Baraka Atkins, DT, 6-4 273 4.87, Miami - If he bulks up some, he could be a dominant tackle on the next level. The versatile Atkins has seen action at both defensive tackle and defensive end for the Hurricanes, and could be on the verge of a breakout campaign. Atkins has 34 starts on his resume entering his senior campaign and leads all returning Hurricanes with 13 career sacks. *** Boom or Bust... I sense a Rod Wright...

28 Greg Olsen, Jr., TE, 6-5 255, Miami - This transfer from Notre Dame is the next in a long line of great Miami tight ends. He's got good size and speed and has played in a Pro Style offense. The mere suggestion that Olsen could become the most dynamic tight end to ever play at a school that’s produced Kellen Winslow, Jeremy Shockey and Bubba Franks is a testament to his enormous potential. He has ideal size to go along with soft hands, good wheels and crisp routes. Olsen is also an above average blocker, but is most dangerous when he’s stretching the seam or matched with on linebacker, and is a strong favorite to be the first tight end chosen if he decides to leave school early.

29. Rufus Alexander, OLB, 6-1 232 4.53, Oklahoma - Alexander emerged two years ago as Oklahoma's greatest force at linebacker and hasn't looked back. Alexander showed his explosiveness in 2004, registering 74 tackles and causing four fumbles. He emerged as a much more consistent defender in 2005, leading the team with 102 tackles and chipping in 17 tackles for loss and 5.0 sacks. Alexander has earned Big 12 accolades after each of the past two seasons and appears poised to enjoy his best season to date. *** he could go inside...

30. Kenny Irons, RB, 5-11 202 4.48, Auburn - A transfer from South Carolina, Irons quickly because first team all conference, and averaged 5.05 yards per carry while rushing for 1,293 yards and 13 touchdowns. In his first year as the starter, Irons led the SEC with an average of 109.5 rushing yards per game during the regular season. He also paced the conference with 117.6 yards per game (941 total) in SEC games. *** I like Auburn this year to win the SEC, and this guy is a big part of that...

31. Adam Carriker, DE, 6-6 280 4.89, Nebraska - Though fans outside of the Big 12 might not have noticed, the Blackshirt defense roared back to life last season. Nebraska led the nation with 50 sacks, many due to the pass rushing skills of Carriker, a senior defensive end with NFL size and athleticism. Carriker finished with 9.5 sacks and earned first-team Big 12 accolades. *** well, I noticed him last year - I love this guy – he’d be perfect in our 3-4….

32. Lawrence Jackson, Jr., DE, 6-5 265 , USC - This pass-rushing junior has the speed off the corner and he's already a polished pass rusher. While most everyone was paying attention to the parade of stars on offense, Jackson was emerging as the next big thing in Trojan defensive linemen. He led the defense with 10 sacks and chipped in four forced fumbles, while just scratching the surface of his potential and laying the foundation for what could be an All-American junior season

First Rd Watch List - there's always a guy that comes out of nowhere, here's my early candidate:

Robert Meacham, WR, 6-3 200 , Tennessee - is a raw prospect who has been slowed by injuries. If he can stay healthy, he has a chance to be special.

 
What about T Moss, RB from Miami.  Will he be recovered enough?
With 2 blown ACLs already, he will be lucky to get drafted as he just didn't have the burst last year when he came back that he had shown before the first ACL tear.Also lefted off the above list are a few skill position guys like:

Jason Hill - WR - Washington State

Brian Brohm - QB - Louisville

Sam Keller - QB - Arizona State

Aaron Harris - LB - Texas

Albert Young - RB - Iowa

Steve Smith - WR - USC

Brandon Meriweather - S - Miami

Keith Rivers - LB - USC

 
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What about T Moss, RB from Miami.  Will he be recovered enough?
With 2 blown ACLs already, he will be lucky to get drafted as he just didn't have the burst last year when he came back that he had shown before the first ACL tear.
I agree, I'm not sold on Moss. But with a decent year, I'd bet he'll go in the 3-5th round. Someone will draft him.Also, the same could be said about Hamilton. He was awesome early in his career, but injuries have derailed him. If he can show that he can handle the load this year and stay healthy, he could be a solid player.

Ditto on Alley Broussard, RB from LSU. Was better than Addai before the ACL injury.

The 2007 draft could be filled with question marks, but one of these backs probaby will pan out.

 
No way is Ginn the 5th receiver taken once all is said and done. That said, what a draft for receivers compared to this year.

 
Scouts Inc has their early positional rankings... which blow this away. Seriously I doubt 60% of the players above fit into the first round. And Brian Brohm, assuming he comes out, will likely be a top 3 pick.

 
What about T Moss, RB from Miami.  Will he be recovered enough?
With 2 blown ACLs already, he will be lucky to get drafted as he just didn't have the burst last year when he came back that he had shown before the first ACL tear.
I agree, I'm not sold on Moss. But with a decent year, I'd bet he'll go in the 3-5th round. Someone will draft him.The 2007 draft could be filled with question marks, but one of these backs probaby will pan out.
Then he fits right in with previous Miami backs Gore and McGahee!!!Damn, i didnt realize he had 2 bad ACLs. Time to look for a new developmental!

 
Jarrett should be higher than 15. I prefer Calvin Johnson, but Jarrett could push for the WR1 spot.

 
Jarrett might not even be the first Trojan WR selected (S Smith)
Are you kidding me?Jarrett was easily their go-to guy. He's a much, much better prospect than Smith, and he's not a 4.65 guy. My guess is that he'll run in the 4.40-4.55 range.

 
No way is Ginn the 5th receiver taken once all is said and done. That said, what a draft for receivers compared to this year.
He could be fourth, though.This time a year ago we were expecting 6 OTs in the first round not counting Justice, but it was a very weak class for DBs. So one OT goes in the first and 1st round DBs set a record. There's just a long way to go still.

I think next year will be the year of the QB. I like Quinn and Stanton from the first list. I think Brohm can give them a run, but Keller is just another Pac 10 slinger probably not cut out for the NFL. However, Trent Edwards just has to keep playing tough to be a first round candidate. John David Booty and Ben Olson are first round talents. Drew Tate, Colt Brennan, Jamarcus Russell, Tyler Palko, Brian Johnson and Brett Ratliff all could have great years and be drafted early.

Some names to store away.

TEs - Zach Miller and Fred Davis (hope he stays in school)

WR - Lance Leggett, Amarri Jackson (sort of unknown, but elite upside)

C - Kyle Young (better than Mangold)

ETA: Troy Smith to the nice QB prospects...

 
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The WR's in 2007 are much, much better than the 2006 crop.

Johnson, Jarrett, Ginn, Rice, S. Smith etc....all have very good NFL potential.

 
Martin Rucker - A sleeper big time TE from Missouri could be the top TE in the draft next year if he comes out early.

Doesn't get much press because he doesn't play for Nebraska or a Texas school in the big 12, but his brother is Mike Rucker, DL for Carolina.

T-Ruck could be in for a huge junior year in 2006 for 2 reasons 1) Brad Smith graduated and they are moving towards letting other players make plays 2) he is paired up with Chase Coffman, 2005 Freshman All-American, son of Hall of Fame TE Paul Coffman and they have Chase Daniel, a stud QB coming in to run the offense.

Honestly, these two TEs are the best tandem in the country, they just don't get the press.

B. Nugget

 
The WR's in 2007 are much, much better than the 2006 crop.

Johnson, Jarrett, Ginn, Rice, S. Smith etc....all have very good NFL potential.
add players such as Leggett, Breaston, Meachem (should break out this year and be a top WR selection), Caldwell, Jason Hill, Dorien Bryant, etc. and you potentially have the makings of a very deep and talented class at WR.
 
No way is Ginn the 5th receiver taken once all is said and done. That said, what a draft for receivers compared to this year.
He could be fourth, though.
I'd take him over anyone in the country besides Calvin Johnson if I were drafting. Certainly ahead of Rice and Samardzija - probably ahead of Jarrett too. Not sure why they're so high on Rice - I need to see more before I'd put him at #3.
 
No way is Ginn the 5th receiver taken once all is said and done. That said, what a draft for receivers compared to this year.
He could be fourth, though.
I'd take him over anyone in the country besides Calvin Johnson if I were drafting. Certainly ahead of Rice and Samardzija - probably ahead of Jarrett too. Not sure why they're so high on Rice - I need to see more before I'd put him at #3.
I like Rice and Jarrett better than Johnson and Ginn. :shrug: I think Calvin Johnson plods and runs rounded routes. He's growing into an amazing TE though. :D

Ginn is incredibly dangerous, but he's raw, not much of a route runner either.

Jarrett has the best hands I've seen since Fitzgerald, but Rice isn't far behind him (yeah, CJ has great hands too), but Rice runs the best routes, gets better separation and is better getting deep. Long way to go, but to me Rice is like a mix of the best of Johnson and the best of Jarrett.

 
Scouts Inc has their early positional rankings... which blow this away. Seriously I doubt 60% of the players above fit into the first round. And Brian Brohm, assuming he comes out, will likely be a top 3 pick.
He's right about Scouts Inc. content, it is pretty intense... and it includes underclassmen who might forgo their senior year.But congrats to anyone who came up with a mock themselves.

Quarterbacks: 1. Brady Quinn, Notre Dame; 2. Brian Brohm*, Louisville; 3. Drew Stanton, Michigan State; 4. Jordan Palmer, UTEP; 5. Kyle Wright*, Miami-Fla.; 6. Chad Henne*, Michigan; 7. Tyler Palko, Pittsburgh; 8. Troy Smith, Ohio State; 9. Trent Edwards, Stanford; 10. John Beck, BYU; 11. Chris Leak, Florida; 12. Sam Kellar, Arizona State.

Running backs; 1. Adrian Peterson*, Oklahoma; 2. Michael Bush, Louisville; 3. Kenny Irons, Auburn; 4. Marshawn Lynch*, California; 5. Kenneth Darby, Alabama; 6. Mike Hart*, Michigan; 7. Lorenzo Booker, Florida State; 8. Thomas Brown*, Georgia; 9. Tyrone Moss, Miami-Fla.; 10. Lynell Hamilton*, San Diego State; 11. DeShawn Wynn, Florida; 12. Brian Leonard (FB), Rutgers; 13. Darius Walker*, Notre Dame; 14. Courtney Lewis, Texas A&M; 15. Tony Hunt, Penn State.

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.

Tight ends: 1. Greg Olsen*, Miami-Fla.; 2. Zach Miller*, Arizona State; 3. Matt Spaeth, Minnesota; 4. Clark Harris, Rutgers; 5. Martrez Milner, Georgia; 6. Joe Newton, Oregon State; 7. Jonny Harline, BYU; 8. Jason Goode*, Maryland; 9. Ben Patrick, Delaware; 10. Matt Herian, Nebraska.

Offensive tackles: Joe Thomas, Wisconsin; 2. Justin Blalock, Texas; 3. Sam Baker*, USC; 4. Jake Long, Michigan; 5. Levi Brown, Penn State; 6. Barry Richardson*, Clemson; 7. Kirk Barton*, Ohio State; 8. Doug Free, Northern Illinois; 9. Mike Jones, Iowa; 10. Aaron Sears, Tennessee; 11. Daniel Inman, Georgia; 12. Andrew Carnahan, Arizona State; 13. Ryan Harris, Notre Dame; 14. Andrew Cameron, California; 15. Mike Otto, Purdue.

Offensive guards: 1. Josh Beekham, Boston College; 2. Samson Satele, Hawaii; 3. Kasey Studdard, Texas; 4. Manuel Ramirez, Texas Tech; 5. Kirk Elder*, Texas A&M; 6. Brian Daniels, Colorado; 7. Will Arnold*, LSU; 8. Dan Mozes, West Virginia; 9. Ben Grubbs, Auburn; 10. George Batiste, Southern Miss.

Centers: 1. Kyle Young, Fresno State; 2. Ryan Kalil, USC; 3. John Sullivan, Notre Dame; 4. Anthony Wollschlager, Miami-Fla.; 5. David Ligon, Tennessee.

Defensive ends: 1. Gaines Adams, Clemson; 2. Lawrence Jackson*, USC; 3. Quentin Moses, Georgia; 4. Adam Carriker, Nebraska; 5. Baraka Atkins, Miami-Fla.; 6. Tim Crowder, Texas; 7. Victor Abiamira, Notre Dame; 8. LaMarr Woodley, Michigan; 9. Quentin Groves*, Auburn; 10. Dan Buzuin, Central Michigan; 11. Loren Howard, Arizona State; 12. Brian Robison, Texas; 13. Mkristo Bruce, Washington State; 14. Larry Birdine, Oklahoma; 15. Larry McSwain, UAB.

Defensive tackles: 1. Frank Okam*, Texas; 2. Quinn Pitcock, Ohio State; 3. Kareem Brown, Miami-Fla.; 4. Marcus Thomas, Florida; 5. Sedrick Ellis*, USC; 6. Justin Harrell, Tennessee; 7. Brandon Mebane, California; 8. Ray McDonald, Florida; 9. Red Bryant*, Texas A&M; 10. Derek Landri, Notre Dame; 11. Tank Tyler, NC State; 12. Carlton Powell*, Virginia Tech; 13. Jay Alford, Penn State; 14. Jeremy Clark, Alabama; 15. Marquay Love, Houston.

Inside linebackers: 1. Patrick Willis, Ole Miss; 2. H.B. Blades, Pittsburgh; 3. Ahmad Brooks**, Virginia; 4. Oscar Lua, USC; 5. Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma; 6. Brandon Siler*, Florida; 7. Anthony Waters, Clemson; 8. Desmond Bishop, California; 9. David Harris, Michigan; 10. Mike De'Andrea, Ohio State.

Outside linebackers: 1. Paul Posluszny, Penn State; 2. Xavier Adibi*, Virginia Tech; 3. Earl Everett, Florida; 4. Prescott Burgess, Michigan; 5. Brian Toal*, Boston College; 6. Dan Connor*, Penn State; 7. Juwan Simpson, Alabama; 8. Brian Smith, Missouri; 9. Stephen Nicholas, South Florida; 10. Zach Latimer, Oklahoma; 11. Dallas Sartz, Texas; 12. Tim Shaw, Penn State.

Cornerbacks: 1. Antoine Cason*, Arizona; 2. Roshaun Fellows*, Tennessee; 3. Leon Hall, Michigan; 4. Daymeion Hughes, California; 5. D.J. Wolfe*, Oklahoma; 6. Fred Bennett, South Carolina; 7. Ambrose Wooden*, Notre Dame; 8. Marcus McCauley, Fresno State; 9. Darrelle Revis*, Pittsburgh; 10. John Talley, Duke; 11. David Irons, Auburn; 12. Marquice Cole, Northwestern; 13. Ramzee Robinson, Alabama; 14. A.J. Davis, NC State; 15. Travarous Bain, Hampton.

Safeties: 1. LaRon Landry, LSU; 2. Brandon Meriweather, Miami-Fla.; 3. Michael Griffin, Texas; 4. Tom Zbikowski, Notre Dame; 5. Jonathan Hefney*, Tennessee; 6. Josh Pinkard*, USC; 7. Josh Gattis, Wake Forest; 8. Eric Weddle, Utah; 9. Aaron Rouse, Virginia Tech; 10. Brandon Mitchell, Ohio State; 11. J.D. Nelson, Oregon; 12. Sabby Piscitelli, Oregon State; 13. Tra Battle, Georgia; 14. Robert Herbert, Colorado State; 15. Willis Barringer, Michigan.

*underclassmen

**dismissed from team
 
I like Rice and Jarrett better than Johnson and Ginn. :shrug:

I think Calvin Johnson plods and runs rounded routes. He's growing into an amazing TE though. :D

Ginn is incredibly dangerous, but he's raw, not much of a route runner either.

Jarrett has the best hands I've seen since Fitzgerald, but Rice isn't far behind him (yeah, CJ has great hands too), but Rice runs the best routes, gets better separation and is better getting deep. Long way to go, but to me Rice is like a mix of the best of Johnson and the best of Jarrett.
Hold on... you think Jarrett has better hands than Calvin Johnson? :eek: :wall:
 
I like Rice and Jarrett better than Johnson and Ginn. :shrug:

I think Calvin Johnson plods and runs rounded routes. He's growing into an amazing TE though. :D

Ginn is incredibly dangerous, but he's raw, not much of a route runner either.

Jarrett has the best hands I've seen since Fitzgerald, but Rice isn't far behind him (yeah, CJ has great hands too), but Rice runs the best routes, gets better separation and is better getting deep. Long way to go, but to me Rice is like a mix of the best of Johnson and the best of Jarrett.
Hold on... you think Jarrett has better hands than Calvin Johnson? :eek: :wall:
I don't understand the eek and wall bit. All three, Rice, Johnson and Jarrett have great hands. They all make spectacular grabs. They are all elite prospects better than anything in this year's draft. But yeah, Jarrett has the uncanny ability, like Fitz, to make the spectacular seem ordinary. I've seen all his games and cannot remember a game without an amazing catch that he made look easy. That's the difference to me. It's easy for Jarrett. He really has amazing hands. Best I saw last year and I watched all three of these guys quite a bit. :thumbup:

 
I'm not going to do the eek and wall bit, and I probably haven't seen as much of them as you have, but from what I've seen, I think Johnson's hands are fantastic and better than Jarrett's. Of course, I live in the South and you live in California, so maybe we're just defending our home turf. :D

 
I'm not going to do the eek and wall bit, and I probably haven't seen as much of them as you have, but from what I've seen, I think Johnson's hands are fantastic and better than Jarrett's. Of course, I live in the South and you live in California, so maybe we're just defending our home turf. :D
I live in the East and would agree. I'd take Johnson's hands any day. This guys is amazing and playing with really only an okay QB.
 
Also think Quentin Moses could easily be a top-10 pick, not 3rd among DEs. Although he may project to 3-4 OLB in the pros, I think the kid is special.

 
Also think Quentin Moses could easily be a top-10 pick, not 3rd among DEs. Although he may project to 3-4 OLB in the pros, I think the kid is special.
I'm a UGA alum and season ticket holder, and huge fan of QMo. But I would not call him Top 10 material. I think he fits into the late first round, but not much more than that.
 
I don't understand the eek and wall bit. All three, Rice, Johnson and Jarrett have great hands. They all make spectacular grabs. They are all elite prospects better than anything in this year's draft. But yeah, Jarrett has the uncanny ability, like Fitz, to make the spectacular seem ordinary. I've seen all his games and cannot remember a game without an amazing catch that he made look easy. That's the difference to me. It's easy for Jarrett. He really has amazing hands. Best I saw last year and I watched all three of these guys quite a bit.

:thumbup:
Hmm some previous quotes about Jarrett:"And on the few occasions they were open, Jarrett and Smith dropped a number of passes" - Matt Zemek of CFN

"Wasn't it just two years ago that he was a skinny, homesick teen struggling with dropped passes" - Richard Cirminiello, in the article that opened this thread

"...on Saturday night was the dropped passes by USC receivers, most notably the drops by Dwayne Jarrett." and "On one occasion, Jarrett was open on the left side for a long pass, but dropped the ball." - Ben Malcomson of the Daily Trojan

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Now, it's easy to say that these dropsies are a thing of the past, freshmen and perhaps even some sophomore nerves, etc. However, try to find anything in writing about Calvin Johnson dropping anything. All you will find watching his film, or reading about him in writing, is that he makes all the routine catches and generally makes more spectacular grabs than just about any WR in college football.

I don't even think it is close between Jarrett and CJ as a pass catcher, and most of the people I know who cover college football agree with me 100%.

(And FYI, I despise Georgia Tech with a passion, so there is definitely no fandom involved in this view.)

 
Also think Quentin Moses could easily be a top-10 pick, not 3rd among DEs.  Although he may project to 3-4 OLB in the pros, I think the kid is special.
I'm a UGA alum and season ticket holder, and huge fan of QMo. But I would not call him Top 10 material. I think he fits into the late first round, but not much more than that.
We shall see. I know I don't need to sell you, but he is a unique physical talent who's only had 1 year as a full-time player and recorded something like 11 sacks and 20+ tackles for loss, despite being undersized at DE. Something about him I really like.
 
Also think Quentin Moses could easily be a top-10 pick, not 3rd among DEs. Although he may project to 3-4 OLB in the pros, I think the kid is special.
I'm a UGA alum and season ticket holder, and huge fan of QMo. But I would not call him Top 10 material. I think he fits into the late first round, but not much more than that.
We shall see. I know I don't need to sell you, but he is a unique physical talent who's only had 1 year as a full-time player and recorded something like 11 sacks and 20+ tackles for loss, despite being undersized at DE. Something about him I really like.
I hope you are right. As I said, I love QMo (one of my favorite Dawgs), but IMO there are some legit concerns when projecting him that would keep him out of the top 10.
 
I don't understand the eek and wall bit. All three, Rice, Johnson and Jarrett have great hands. They all make spectacular grabs. They are all elite prospects better than anything in this year's draft. But yeah, Jarrett has the uncanny ability, like Fitz, to make the spectacular seem ordinary. I've seen all his games and cannot remember a game without an amazing catch that he made look easy. That's the difference to me. It's easy for Jarrett. He really has amazing hands. Best I saw last year and I watched all three of these guys quite a bit.

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Hmm some previous quotes about Jarrett:"And on the few occasions they were open, Jarrett and Smith dropped a number of passes" - Matt Zemek of CFN

"Wasn't it just two years ago that he was a skinny, homesick teen struggling with dropped passes" - Richard Cirminiello, in the article that opened this thread

"...on Saturday night was the dropped passes by USC receivers, most notably the drops by Dwayne Jarrett." and "On one occasion, Jarrett was open on the left side for a long pass, but dropped the ball." - Ben Malcomson of the Daily Trojan

===================================================

Now, it's easy to say that these dropsies are a thing of the past, freshmen and perhaps even some sophomore nerves, etc. However, try to find anything in writing about Calvin Johnson dropping anything. All you will find watching his film, or reading about him in writing, is that he makes all the routine catches and generally makes more spectacular grabs than just about any WR in college football.

I don't even think it is close between Jarrett and CJ as a pass catcher, and most of the people I know who cover college football agree with me 100%.

(And FYI, I despise Georgia Tech with a passion, so there is definitely no fandom involved in this view.)
I'd love to break down both their seasons one play at a time with you. It would become funny. Jarrett had 16 tds, Johnson 6. Jarrett caught 90 something balls, Johnson 50 something. And you took Cirminiello completely out of context who concluded the days of drops for Jarrett are long gone. They are. Johnson had three very unfortunate drops in his last game. Ga Tech got blown out by Utah. There was little double teaming. Eric Weddle became a national figure in the scouting community for shutting down Johnson one on one all day. He owned Johnson. Johnson missed the easy ones. Tye Hill also exploded onto the scene after dominating Johnson in another game where Calvin had a couple unfortunate drops. Against NC State Ball hit Johnson in the hands with a game winning TD. It bounced off his hands and was intercepted. Game over. Johnson had a nice game, but he choked in the end. So, the people you know who cover college football agree with you 100%. I don't care. I know what I saw. Johnson has a lot of hype right now. He may live up to it, he may not. I've heard that argument a few times about a players when someone disagreed with me and the 100% ended up changing rapidly. Cromartie/Williams, Cutler/Leinart, etc. Johnson is really good, and maybe great. I just like Jarrett's hands/playmaking better. That dude amazed me over and over last year. Johnson, not so much, but the tools are phenomenal, no doubt.

There's a long way to go. Johnson was on my fantasy team, btw. He was pretty disappointing and that may be influencing me. I think Reggie Ball is pretty sharp too.

 
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I'd love to break down both their seasons one play at a time with you. It would become funny. Jarrett had 16 tds, Johnson 6. Jarrett caught 90 something balls, Johnson 50 something. And you took Cirminiello completely out of context who concluded the days of drops for Jarrett are long gone. They are. Johnson had three very unfortunate drops in his last game. Ga Tech got blown out by Utah. There was little double teaming. Eric Weddle became a national figure in the scouting community for shutting down Johnson one on one all day. He owned Johnson. Johnson missed the easy ones. Tye Hill also exploded onto the scene after dominating Johnson in another game where Calvin had a couple unfortunate drops. Against NC State Ball hit Johnson in the hands with a game winning TD. It bounced off his hands and was intercepted. Game over. Johnson had a nice game, but he choked in the end.

So, the people you know who cover college football agree with you 100%. I don't care. I know what I saw. Johnson has a lot of hype right now. He may live up to it, he may not. I've heard that argument a few times about a players when someone disagreed with me and the 100% ended up changing rapidly. Cromartie/Williams, Cutler/Leinart, etc. Johnson is really good, and maybe great. I just like Jarrett's hands/playmaking better. That dude amazed me over and over last year. Johnson, not so much, but the tools are phenomenal, no doubt.

There's a long way to go. Johnson was on my fantasy team, btw. He was pretty disappointing and that may be influencing me. I think Reggie Ball is pretty sharp too.
Wow, this just gets more ridiculous...Seriously, did you just say that Reggie Ball is "pretty sharp"? He is among the 10 worst QBs playing at any major D1 school right now. Hell, he might be bottom 5 actually. If not for Calvin Johnson routinely snagging his errant passes, he would likely complete less than 40% of his passes. Hell, even with CJ grabbing anything within a mile of his body, he only completed 47%. Conversely, Leinart at USC completed almost 66% of his passes.

As for CJ only scoring 6 TDs, what did you expect? The ENTIRE Ga Tech offense only produced 25 TDs, and the passing game produced only a whopping 12 of those. And if you were seriously expecting more, shame on you. Tech produced only 29 and 28 TDs in the two season prior (with only 17 and 13 coming through the air during those two seasons). A high-powered collegiate offense this is not...

However, since you compared CJ's TDs to Jarrett's, we should note that USC produced a ridiculous 83 TDs, with Leinart tossing 32 of those. Trying to compare production player for player, between Johnson and Jarrett, seems kind of ludicrous.

Looking at contribution to their respective teams' passing attacks, you see that both Jarrett and Johnson produced half of their team's receiving scores. However, Johnson accounted for 38% of his team's yards through the air while Jarrett accounted for only 30.6% of his team's. So, Johnson was limited greatly by his offense but contributed a higher percentage of the yards gained and equal percentage of TDs gained through the air (both caught essentially the same percentage of their team's completions).

Anyway, sorry for straying so far off topic here. But saying the Reggie Ball is a "pretty sharp" QB and implying that CJ should have been more productive if he played better seems ludicrous when the Tech offense is broken down.

Johnson is not perfect. While he reportedly runs in the 4.45 range, colleges (and high schools before them) tend to exaggerate these times quite often. Who knows what he will really run. And he does not effectively use his hands like you would hope a big, physical player would against press coverage. But he has great size and hands, and I have never seen anyone who covers Tech or college football question his hands. And I definitely have never seen anyone before say his hands were not as good as Jarrett's. To each his own, though, I guess...

 
And back on topic...

Kiper's first big board for next season is up.

Before getting upset about it remember two things.

1. He's right not to discuss underclassmen, imo.

2. It's Kiper.
Looks like a typical Kiper board... got most of the seniors right, left off a few intentionally so that he can add them later for effect, and probably has about 3 of the guys in the right order LOL. And of course, it will change 273 times between now and draft day '07.
 
I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
 
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I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
Todd Blythe will be an under-rated prospect like Mike Hass. I doubt his 40 time is good enough to excite scouts but he has good hands and is a good route runner.Iowa State actually has a few players to watch for including QB Bret Meyer and RB Stevie Hicks.

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/Big_12/...ate_offense.htm

- Bret Meyer, Jr. - 227-368, 2,876 yds, 62%, 19 TD, 10 INT, 133 carries, 123 yds, 1 TD

This will be Meyer's third year as the starter after coming off a solid season. With the running game struggling, the offense fell on his shoulders and he came through, for the most part, turning into an efficient passer who threw better and better on the move. He's a talented runner who could stand to get bigger to fill out his 6-3, 208-pound frame a little more to absorb more shots. The big key will be interceptions; he can't throw them. The Cyclones went 0-5 after the Army game when Meyer threw a pick and almost lost to the Black Knights after throwing three interceptions.

- Stevie Hicks, Sr. - 149 carries, 545 yds, 3.7 ypc, 4 TD, 8 catches, 39 yds

It's not an overstatement to say the season rests on Hicks, who was never healthy last season suffering from a groin injury. Iowa State went 3-5 when he was either out or ineffective including a loss to lowly Baylor. He's a 212-pound power back who's a key blocker in pass protection with good enough speed to crank out big plays. He only averaged 3.7 yards per carry last season and didn't do enough for the passing game, so he'll be looking for a big bounceback season after rushing for 1,062 yards and nine touchdowns in 2004.

- Todd Blythe, Jr. - 51 catches, 1,000 yds, 19.6 ypc, 9 TD

He has it all from 6-5, 210-pound size, excellent leaping ability around the goal line, and big play ability on deep plays. He's a tough receiver who attacks the ball when it comes his way. Now the key is consistency after struggling to break out over the first half of last season until a 214-yard, four touchdown day against Texas A&M. He could stand to do more after getting the ball in his hands.
 
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I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
I think Ginn and CJ will battle to be the first receiver seleted...I think Samardzija, Hill and Breaston are too high... Samardzija will need a better-than-expected 40 time. Hill has some glaring deficiencies but is a great ratio guy. Breaston is an athlete first, WR something much later.

I expect Robert Meachem to have a breakout year and he projects much higher than listed above.

I think Sidney Rice will consider joining the guys listed above (Scouts Inc likely missed him because he will be a RSo and they forgot he had a Redshirt year).

I think Steve Smith projects higher than listed.

I think Caldwell, Leggett, and Dorien Bryant could really improve their stock and all might/should go higher than listed above.

I also think Doucet projects better to the NFL than many of the guys on the list...

 
I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
Sidney Rice is draft eligible and should be very high on the list. I think he goes first if he declares. There's a lot of names missing and/or out of place on this list, imo. Leggett should be higher. Ryan Moore should be on the list. There's a bunch, but it is a very very solid class. Jason Hill should have gone pro this year. He probably would have been better off. jurb, I threw the Ball comment out there knowing full well how hard he would get slammed. I think he's pretty sharp. Wait and see. He's not an NFL prospect, but he doesn't deserve the rabid criticism I read all the time.

Be perfectly clear that three times I have said Calvin Johnson has great hands. Don't try to spin that, thanks. I'm just saying Jarrett's are better. The spectacular Brandon Lloyd type stuff is great and they both do it. So does Rice. Jarrett is more consistent at catching everything and getting open for that matter. I can swing your production grievance right back at you, but this gets circular. Ga Tech should have been better if CJ was THAT great. Like I said, Weddle stoned him in a bowl game, and he dropped three. I have it on tape. He dropped a game winner against NC State. He had drops against Clemson. All last year. Jarrett's dropsies are two years old. Johnson's are in his last game. I'm not saying he has bad hands. I'm just using examples to support my opinion. Calvin Johnson is a great prospect with great hands. Okay?

Jarrett was awesome in the Rose Bowl. 10 for 120 somethinng and a TD. Leinart flat missed him deep in the first half or those numbers would have been a lot bigger. He consistently beat Cedrick Griffin, he beat both Griffins a couple times in double coverage, and put a great move on Huff and Griffin another time. That's three NFL DBs, one's the best in the draft; it was one of the best secondaries in the nation, and they couldn't deal with Jarrett.

Sidney Rice was just a freak in his bowl game. 12 for 190 and a TD. His hands are also phenomenal and his playing speed looks much better than the other two. No other Gamecock receiver caught more than one pass and Rice was doubled and tripled the whole game. He has an unstoppable quality to him and he's just getting better.

Johnson was stoned by Eric Weddle. No two ways around that. He couldn't get open. Sometimes the supremely hyped player disappoints but those who hyped him won't acknowledge it or they look for excuses. So media and expert opinion is slow to respond to the facts.

He better pick it up next year if he expects NFL teams to pass on Jarrett and Rice for him.

Long way to go for all these guys. :popcorn:

In other news, John David Booty has had surgery for constant back spasms and Mark Sanchez legal problems could end his career before it ever started. USC may have a big problem at QB.

 
I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
Sidney Rice is draft eligible and should be very high on the list. I think he goes first if he declares. There's a lot of names missing and/or out of place on this list, imo. Leggett should be higher. Ryan Moore should be on the list. There's a bunch, but it is a very very solid class. Jason Hill should have gone pro this year. He probably would have been better off. jurb, I threw the Ball comment out there knowing full well how hard he would get slammed. I think he's pretty sharp. Wait and see. He's not an NFL prospect, but he doesn't deserve the rabid criticism I read all the time.

Be perfectly clear that three times I have said Calvin Johnson has great hands. Don't try to spin that, thanks. I'm just saying Jarrett's are better. The spectacular Brandon Lloyd type stuff is great and they both do it. So does Rice. Jarrett is more consistent at catching everything and getting open for that matter. I can swing your production grievance right back at you, but this gets circular. Ga Tech should have been better if CJ was THAT great. Like I said, Weddle stoned him in a bowl game, and he dropped three. I have it on tape. He dropped a game winner against NC State. He had drops against Clemson. All last year. Jarrett's dropsies are two years old. Johnson's are in his last game. I'm not saying he has bad hands. I'm just using examples to support my opinion. Calvin Johnson is a great prospect with great hands. Okay?

Jarrett was awesome in the Rose Bowl. 10 for 120 somethinng and a TD. Leinart flat missed him deep in the first half or those numbers would have been a lot bigger. He consistently beat Cedrick Griffin, he beat both Griffins a couple times in double coverage, and put a great move on Huff and Griffin another time. That's three NFL DBs, one's the best in the draft; it was one of the best secondaries in the nation, and they couldn't deal with Jarrett.

Sidney Rice was just a freak in his bowl game. 12 for 190 and a TD. His hands are also phenomenal and his playing speed looks much better than the other two. No other Gamecock receiver caught more than one pass and Rice was doubled and tripled the whole game. He has an unstoppable quality to him and he's just getting better.

Johnson was stoned by Eric Weddle. No two ways around that. He couldn't get open. Sometimes the supremely hyped player disappoints but those who hyped him won't acknowledge it or they look for excuses. So media and expert opinion is slow to respond to the facts.

He better pick it up next year if he expects NFL teams to pass on Jarrett and Rice for him.

Long way to go for all these guys. :popcorn:

In other news, John David Booty has had surgery for constant back spasms and Mark Sanchez legal problems could end his career before it ever started. USC may have a big problem at QB.
I think you have your people confused here CC. I like Jarrett the best of this group and also think he has the best hands. I've never said otherwise. Not sure why you are directing those comments towards me. :confused:
 
I'vew been saying it for months now that 2007 will be a FANTASTIC draft for WRs. I really like this list:

Wide receivers: 1. Dwayne Jarrett*, USC; 2. Calvin Johnson*, Georgia Tech; 3. Ted Ginn*, Ohio State; 4. Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame; 5. Jason Hill, Washington State; 6. Steve Breaston, Michigan; 7. Courtney Taylor, Auburn; 8. Robert Meachem*, Tennessee; 9. Early Doucet*, LSU; 10. Steve Smith, USC; 11. Lance Leggett*, Miami-Fla.; 12. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP; 13. Todd Blythe*, Iowa State; 14. Paul Williams, Fresno State; 15. Andre Caldwell, Florida; 16. Jarrett Hicks, Texas Tech; 17. Dwayne Bowe, LSU; 18. Dorien Bryant*, Purdue; 19. Chansi Stuckey, Clemson; 20. David Clowney, Virginia Tech.
I would certainly move Leggett up Samardzija down, but everything else seems about right to me. :thumbup:
Sidney Rice is draft eligible and should be very high on the list. I think he goes first if he declares. There's a lot of names missing and/or out of place on this list, imo. Leggett should be higher. Ryan Moore should be on the list. There's a bunch, but it is a very very solid class. Jason Hill should have gone pro this year. He probably would have been better off. jurb, I threw the Ball comment out there knowing full well how hard he would get slammed. I think he's pretty sharp. Wait and see. He's not an NFL prospect, but he doesn't deserve the rabid criticism I read all the time.

Be perfectly clear that three times I have said Calvin Johnson has great hands. Don't try to spin that, thanks. I'm just saying Jarrett's are better. The spectacular Brandon Lloyd type stuff is great and they both do it. So does Rice. Jarrett is more consistent at catching everything and getting open for that matter. I can swing your production grievance right back at you, but this gets circular. Ga Tech should have been better if CJ was THAT great. Like I said, Weddle stoned him in a bowl game, and he dropped three. I have it on tape. He dropped a game winner against NC State. He had drops against Clemson. All last year. Jarrett's dropsies are two years old. Johnson's are in his last game. I'm not saying he has bad hands. I'm just using examples to support my opinion. Calvin Johnson is a great prospect with great hands. Okay?

Jarrett was awesome in the Rose Bowl. 10 for 120 somethinng and a TD. Leinart flat missed him deep in the first half or those numbers would have been a lot bigger. He consistently beat Cedrick Griffin, he beat both Griffins a couple times in double coverage, and put a great move on Huff and Griffin another time. That's three NFL DBs, one's the best in the draft; it was one of the best secondaries in the nation, and they couldn't deal with Jarrett.

Sidney Rice was just a freak in his bowl game. 12 for 190 and a TD. His hands are also phenomenal and his playing speed looks much better than the other two. No other Gamecock receiver caught more than one pass and Rice was doubled and tripled the whole game. He has an unstoppable quality to him and he's just getting better.

Johnson was stoned by Eric Weddle. No two ways around that. He couldn't get open. Sometimes the supremely hyped player disappoints but those who hyped him won't acknowledge it or they look for excuses. So media and expert opinion is slow to respond to the facts.

He better pick it up next year if he expects NFL teams to pass on Jarrett and Rice for him.

Long way to go for all these guys. :popcorn:

In other news, John David Booty has had surgery for constant back spasms and Mark Sanchez legal problems could end his career before it ever started. USC may have a big problem at QB.
I think you have your people confused here CC. I like Jarrett the best of this group and also think he has the best hands. I've never said otherwise. Not sure why you are directing those comments towards me. :confused:
Yeah, I'm a little busy. I was addressing the Hankton alias. You have great taste in WRs. :thumbup:
 
Yeah, I'm a little busy. I was addressing the Hankton alias. You have great taste in WRs. :thumbup:
I should, I played CB for 4 years in college. :yes:
 
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I threw the Ball comment out there knowing full well how hard he would get slammed. I think he's pretty sharp. Wait and see. He's not an NFL prospect, but he doesn't deserve the rabid criticism I read all the time.
You have GOT to be fishing here, right? Reggie Ball is pretty sharp I guess...If by "pretty sharp" you mean ridiculously horrible.

Reggie Ball has completed 49% and 47% of his passes the past two years.

He has thrown more INTs than TDs in each of the past two seasons.

He has turned the ball over in the redzone 5 times in his past 16 games.

He threw the ball away on 4th down. I repeat, he actually threw the ball away on 4th down in one of the most humorous, bonehead moments of the past few seasons.

Ball is pretty much the antithesis of pretty sharp.

And I actually agree that CJ can be taken out of games a bit too easily, but if he had the Ga Tech OL and Reggie Ball around him, I doubt Jarrett would be quite so dominant either...

(and Yes, I'd still likely take Ginn over both of the guys in question, unless either CJ or Jarrett surprises me with 40 time)

 
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I'm going to be watching to see how well Steve Breaston develops this year.
I think Mario Manningham will outshine Breaston.
I agree. Although both could be solid. Of course, that means that Henne will be producing well, which would help not only Breaston's stock but Chad's too...At the point, Breaston is a measurables guy without the on-field performance to back it up. With Avant gone, though, he and Mario better step up if Michigan is to effectively move the ball through the air (we know they can run it with the best of 'em with those backs). IF Breaston produces on the field, he will definitely merit an early look (likely mid 2nd round) with his quickness and athleticism being top-shelf for a 6'1 WR. However, another 250 yard season and you will really have to question why the athleticism is not translating to playmaking on the field...

Michigan will be an interesting team to watch this season... Henne, Breaston, Manningham, Grady, Hart, etc.

 

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