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2012+ Dynasty stashes (1 Viewer)

in my dynasty league my team is going ok, but I have some garbage on my roster that I don't believe have long term value, and if I have to star them I'm not going to have to worry about moving forward in any playoffs, so I'm wondering who the deep sleepers are that I should target to stash. A good example from last year was Victor Cruz. A few people here said stash the guy and I did, and he's done ok this year. He may not end up panning out, but he was a good stash that no one had on the radar last year.

To give an idea where the FA line is, it's a 12 team dynasty with 24 roster spots plus 3 taxi, scoring is yardage + PPR.

So who should I grab to replace the likes of Derek Hagan?

 
Matt Flynn or Josh Johnson at QB

Dion Lewis, Taiwan Jones at RB

Vincent Brown at WR

Some are probably already taken.

 
don't see how Brown will do anything with Floyd and Jackson there, unless you think Jackson goes elsewhere . . .

 
So far all these guys are taken except Josh Johnson. Thanks for the quick replies though. Part of the reason I'm looking is I might take a shot at trading for the #1 pick next year, so I'll need some guys to come up and replace what I have to give away.

 
So far all these guys are taken except Josh Johnson. Thanks for the quick replies though. Part of the reason I'm looking is I might take a shot at trading for the #1 pick next year, so I'll need some guys to come up and replace what I have to give away.
I'm in a similar league (25 man rosters/12 team) - nothing but garbage on waivers . . .
 
in my dynasty league my team is going ok, but I have some garbage on my roster that I don't believe have long term value, and if I have to star them I'm not going to have to worry about moving forward in any playoffs, so I'm wondering who the deep sleepers are that I should target to stash. A good example from last year was Victor Cruz. A few people here said stash the guy and I did, and he's done ok this year. He may not end up panning out, but he was a good stash that no one had on the radar last year.To give an idea where the FA line is, it's a 12 team dynasty with 24 roster spots plus 3 taxi, scoring is yardage + PPR.So who should I grab to replace the likes of Derek Hagan?
I'll throw out a few names of possible deeper dynasty stashes.QB: Not much out there that isn't likely already stashed, but perhaps a guy like Matt Flynn, John Skelton, Brian Hoyer or Josh Johnson is out there, or looking further down the road than 2012, Ryan Mallett is a guy to watchRB: Taiwan Jones; Rashad Jennings; Phillip Tanner; Donald Brown :bag: ; Dion Lewis; Da'rel Scott; Joe McKnight/Bilal Powell; Alex Green; Mikel Leshoure; Ryan Williams (I realize several, if not most, of these are likely rostered, but without knowing, I'm just putting out some possibilities)WR: Most of the stash-worthy names may be already stashed, but some who may be forgotten: Stephen Williams; Julian Edelman; Jordan Shipley; Dezmon Briscoe; Vincent Brown; Titus Young; Randall Cobb (ok, the last couple most likely rostered, so I'll stop . . .)TE: Julius Thomas; James Casey; Tony Moeaki
 
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Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.

Dion Lewis is my favorite RB stash. I don't think the Eagles run game would downgrade much if he were pressed into action. No clue how he fell so low in the draft. His cuts are as fast as anyone in the game right now. I don't know or care what he even ran in the 40. Guy reminds me a lot of Westbrook / Ray Rice. He becomes a FA when he's 24. And anything can happen over the course of the next 4 seasons. (Positive sign that he's already so quickly dispatched of FA signing Ronnie Brown)

I like Stephen Williams, but the odds of him doing much at this point are slim. (Doesn't suit up now and has been passed by journeyman)

 
I'm thinking about picking up Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure this weekend and putting them on IR and see how they pan out during training camp.

 
I'll throw out a few names of possible deeper dynasty stashes.
Solid listMy scout team - not listed...QB T. Pryor (J. Campbell out for season)RB A Bradford (Seattle scooped up - Lynch not too hot...)RB D. Evans (Ind)RB D. Scott (NYG - Loved his preseason)TE W. Saunders (PIT - Behind aging Miller, getting a scratch involved now...)
 
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Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
 
'sharkbait006 said:
I'm thinking about picking up Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure this weekend and putting them on IR and see how they pan out during training camp.
You play in a dynasty league with an IR, and these guys aren't rostered??
 
Depending on league size, some of these guys may or may not be rostered.

The smallest league I play in is 26 spots/12 teams, the largest 52 spots/12 teams:

Some waiver wire names I'm keeping an eye on across various leagues:

QB: Matt Flynn, Josh Johnson

RB: Darren Evans, Chad Spann, Bilal Powell, Dion Lewis, Da'Rel Scott, Philip Tanner, Allen Bradford, Alex Green, Johnny White

WR: Taylor Price (I think he's an add this week, actually), Vincent Brown, Riley Cooper, Marcus Easley, Leonard Hankerson (if someone has become impatient), Niles Paul, Clyde Gates, DeMarco Sampson, Stephen Williams, Jerrel Jernigan

TE: Julius Thomas, Delanie Walker, Martellus Bennett, John Carlson

 
Thanks for all the feedback, I'll check out a few of these guys. I grabbed Da'Rel in the draft since I have Bradshaw, have him on taxi squad.

Josh Johnson seems to be a consensus, Bilal, Dion, Taylor Price, Brown, Easley, Hankerson are all rostered. Interesting that Julius Thomas is mentioned multiple times, any love for Virgil Green? Waldman was high on him so I took a flier on him but haven't heard squat since.

 
Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
Why? What has he shown? Maybe he's looked great in preseason...but he's been terrible in games. In 146 career attempts he's thrown for 810 yards (a pathetic 5.5 ypa). 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. I see a career backup from this guy at best. I've asked this question more than once before and have yet to receive an answer why people think he's a dynasty stash.
 
Talking deep I just stashed David Gettis on my dynasty IR. I'm thinking with the rise of Cam Newton and the lack of a successful #2 WR there I might as well give him a shot. I don't expect it to pan out, but it's a decent bet since it doesn't take a roster spot this year.

 
Kyle Williams in SF. I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting next year. Probably won't, but a stash is a wild card and he's probably not rostered, but has raw talent that could translate well in an offense devoid of good WR play.

 
I'm thinking about picking up Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure this weekend and putting them on IR and see how they pan out during training camp.
You play in a dynasty league with an IR, and these guys aren't rostered??
Problem is we have a short roster (15 spots) and we can only keep 3 players per season. It's our first year so people are still trying to figure out how things work.
 
WRs

Austin Collie

S. Smith (Eagles)

Andre Roberts

Emanual Sanders

 
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Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
Why? What has he shown? Maybe he's looked great in preseason...but he's been terrible in games. In 146 career attempts he's thrown for 810 yards (a pathetic 5.5 ypa). 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. I see a career backup from this guy at best. I've asked this question more than once before and have yet to receive an answer why people think he's a dynasty stash.
most of that came in his 1st 4 starts and he was raw coming out of San Diego. The team was 0-3 when he took over from Byron Leftwich (who wasn't playing all that great either). After his 4 starts, Freeman came in and didn't fare much better...the next year they replaced their entire WR corps.I'd say the most people who say he's a stash has seen that quick release, point to his accuracy in college, and understand his speed is going to be a significant advantageDo you always evaluate QB's based on their 1st 4 starts without taking anything in context? I'm not sure that's a good idea.
 
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Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
Why? What has he shown? Maybe he's looked great in preseason...but he's been terrible in games. In 146 career attempts he's thrown for 810 yards (a pathetic 5.5 ypa). 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. I see a career backup from this guy at best. I've asked this question more than once before and have yet to receive an answer why people think he's a dynasty stash.
most of that came in his 1st 4 starts and he was raw coming out of San Diego. The team was 0-3 when he took over from Byron Leftwich (who wasn't playing all that great either). After his 4 starts, Freeman came in and didn't fare much better...the next year they replaced their entire WR corps.I'd say the most people who say he's a stash has seen that quick release, point to his accuracy in college, and understand his speed is going to be a significant advantage



Do you always evaluate QB's based on their 1st 4 starts without taking anything in context? I'm not sure that's a good idea.
No I do not. But I've shortened my quote each time I've asked questions about Josh Johnson. When I first asked questions about him in the offseason (when folks were mentioning him coming to SF), I'd state I'm well aware stats can be misleading with such a young guy, blah blah blah. In other 2012 dynasty stash threads I've become increasingly short in my questioning of Josh. Most folks are content to regurgitate what they've heard and when that line of thinking is questioned they either ignore it (only to repeat he's a great buy in the next thread) or they fall back on some crappy answer regarding his college career.If he's shown flashes of promise in preseason and/or camp I'll trust the judgement of those who follow the team. I don't put a great deal of stock in college performances after someone has been in the league for several years. All I have to go from is the stats - which are ugly.

 
'biju said:
Talking deep I just stashed David Gettis on my dynasty IR. I'm thinking with the rise of Cam Newton and the lack of a successful #2 WR there I might as well give him a shot. I don't expect it to pan out, but it's a decent bet since it doesn't take a roster spot this year.
I absolutely expect this to work out. He is one of the top stashes at dyno WR that no one is talking about.
 
'Dr. Awesome said:
'loose circuits said:
'Dr. Awesome said:
Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
Why? What has he shown? Maybe he's looked great in preseason...but he's been terrible in games. In 146 career attempts he's thrown for 810 yards (a pathetic 5.5 ypa). 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. I see a career backup from this guy at best. I've asked this question more than once before and have yet to receive an answer why people think he's a dynasty stash.
most of that came in his 1st 4 starts and he was raw coming out of San Diego. The team was 0-3 when he took over from Byron Leftwich (who wasn't playing all that great either). After his 4 starts, Freeman came in and didn't fare much better...the next year they replaced their entire WR corps.I'd say the most people who say he's a stash has seen that quick release, point to his accuracy in college, and understand his speed is going to be a significant advantage



Do you always evaluate QB's based on their 1st 4 starts without taking anything in context? I'm not sure that's a good idea.
No I do not. But I've shortened my quote each time I've asked questions about Josh Johnson. When I first asked questions about him in the offseason (when folks were mentioning him coming to SF), I'd state I'm well aware stats can be misleading with such a young guy, blah blah blah. In other 2012 dynasty stash threads I've become increasingly short in my questioning of Josh. Most folks are content to regurgitate what they've heard and when that line of thinking is questioned they either ignore it (only to repeat he's a great buy in the next thread) or they fall back on some crappy answer regarding his college career.If he's shown flashes of promise in preseason and/or camp I'll trust the judgement of those who follow the team. I don't put a great deal of stock in college performances after someone has been in the league for several years. All I have to go from is the stats - which are ugly.
not a good idea to just look at the stats especially in the context they came from and the pretty much meaningless sample sizedo yourself a favor and watch the kid play. His release is sick and he keeps drives alive with his legs. I think about everyone around the Bucs organization would tell you that he'll be a starter in the league sooner than later. may have trouble next year though with the strong QB class. I don't see how San Fran ends up signing him to play ahead of Kaepernick. I think he'd be a perfect fit for Shanny in Washington with his familiarity with WCO

 
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I'm not going to spend time watching every potential dynasty stash. I prefer to spend my time doing other things. I do appreciate the feedback from a homer or someone who has simply followed the kid. This is really all I was looking for. You're one of the few who is able/willing to give a reason why you like him. :thumbup:

I can't stand folks who pimp a player and when pressed for why they like said player they cannot give a solid reason.

 
'Dr. Awesome said:
Josh Johnson isn't a bad stash. I'm just not expecting a lot here -- I think he just ends up backing up elsewhere. Maybe he gets to start due to injury.
I think he's a great stash and has a good chance to be starting for SF at this time next year
Why? What has he shown? Maybe he's looked great in preseason...but he's been terrible in games. In 146 career attempts he's thrown for 810 yards (a pathetic 5.5 ypa). 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. I see a career backup from this guy at best. I've asked this question more than once before and have yet to receive an answer why people think he's a dynasty stash.
Personally, I'm not stashing, but watching.For me, the watch is more of a hedge against Alex Smith face-planting, historical connection with Harbaugh, and Kaepernick not working out. That's a lot of things which would have to align, plus him being picked up by SF (which isnt too much of a stretch), but if you're in a large-roster league, I'd rather take a speculative add on a guy like Johnson over some other guys.In the off-season, I think he's a guy you could add in lieu of carrying a kicker or extra DST, or IDP guy who didnt pan out.Kaepernick isnt available in any of my leagues, but Johnson is... *shrug*
 
Sorry to breath life into an older thread, but in a few weeks (after the Pittsburgh bye) I'll be stashing away Ryan Williams and Mikel Leshoure. Due to our draft being in late August both of these guys were already out for the season and nobody picked them up. Are these guys on the waiver wires in most dynasty leagues or are we just a bunch of noobs for leaving them out there for anybody to take?

 
Sorry to breath life into an older thread, but in a few weeks (after the Pittsburgh bye) I'll be stashing away Ryan Williams and Mikel Leshoure. Due to our draft being in late August both of these guys were already out for the season and nobody picked them up. Are these guys on the waiver wires in most dynasty leagues or are we just a bunch of noobs for leaving them out there for anybody to take?
If you have anything resembling an IR, then you're a bunch of noobs for leaving them out there. Or you have both very small rosters, AND no IR.
 
Sorry to breath life into an older thread, but in a few weeks (after the Pittsburgh bye) I'll be stashing away Ryan Williams and Mikel Leshoure. Due to our draft being in late August both of these guys were already out for the season and nobody picked them up. Are these guys on the waiver wires in most dynasty leagues or are we just a bunch of noobs for leaving them out there for anybody to take?
I play in a gazillion leagues, i don't know of any keeper/dynasty where either is available.
 
I stashed Donald Brown after he was dropped earlier in the year. I think he finds a new home in 2012, with the potential to be a solid play in the near future if he settles in to the right location.

 
I stashed Donald Brown after he was dropped earlier in the year. I think he finds a new home in 2012, with the potential to be a solid play in the near future if he settles in to the right location.
I have been a fan of him all along. Here's my reasoning that he may break out next year:1) He is healthy this year and has been Indy's best back when they let him on the field.2) He can catch and has good RAC; again, IND has under utilized this skill.3) The IND run scheme out of the shot gun does not favor Brown's skills; if he goes somewhere that runs a traditional pro offense with a good blocking FB he will do better.My only question is this: won't he still be under roster with Indy next year? As long as they have the same coaching staff and offense, I am not confident he will break out in IND.
 
one of my teams had some scheduling issues so I ended up not making the playoffs this year. anyways these are guys I've claimed recently

Charles Clay FB/TE Miami- he caught close to 100 balls in college at Tulsa and also played some RB, FB. Mostly lines up at TE for the Dolphins. Not sure when MFL will switch him to his proper position. either way, he's getting more involved in the offense each week and expect him to grow in his role

Demarco Sampson WR Ari- with Roberts not living up to expectations so there seems to be room for someone to develop across from Fitz. He received good reports in camp so he could have some ability.

Riley Cooper WR Philly: he was in on some 3 WR sets for Philly last week. they think highly of this kid and he has the athleticism/frame to get it done. With Desean a free agent, he could potentially be the starting X next season

Tori Gurley WR (GB PS): Rumor has it he has been lighting up the #1 D in practices and showing some serious potential. I imagine he'll likely get claimed by someone sooner than later. Worth a stash and hold to me...

Marty Bennett TE Dallas: might as well take a flier to see if he can end up in a better spot next season

will have more later...

 
one of my teams had some scheduling issues so I ended up not making the playoffs this year. anyways these are guys I've claimed recently

Charles Clay FB/TE Miami- he caught close to 100 balls in college at Tulsa and also played some RB, FB. Mostly lines up at TE for the Dolphins. Not sure when MFL will switch him to his proper position. either way, he's getting more involved in the offense each week and expect him to grow in his role

Demarco Sampson WR Ari- with Roberts not living up to expectations so there seems to be room for someone to develop across from Fitz. He received good reports in camp so he could have some ability.

Riley Cooper WR Philly: he was in on some 3 WR sets for Philly last week. they think highly of this kid and he has the athleticism/frame to get it done. With Desean a free agent, he could potentially be the starting X next season

Tori Gurley WR (GB PS): Rumor has it he has been lighting up the #1 D in practices and showing some serious potential. I imagine he'll likely get claimed by someone sooner than later. Worth a stash and hold to me...

Marty Bennett TE Dallas: might as well take a flier to see if he can end up in a better spot next season

will have more later...
You'll regret wasting a spot on him. He has been given every chance to succeed in Dallas, and has been a disaster. If he can't beat out John Phillips, I honestly don't expect Marty to even be in the NFL 2 years from now. He is that bad. Shame because he had incredible athletic ability coming out of high school.
 
Charles Clay FB/TE Miami- he caught close to 100 balls in college at Tulsa and also played some RB, FB. Mostly lines up at TE for the Dolphins. Not sure when MFL will switch him to his proper position. either way, he's getting more involved in the offense each week and expect him to grow in his role
The few times I've seen Miami play, he was playing FB - although he did go out on pass patterns.
 
'Dr. Octopus said:
Charles Clay FB/TE Miami- he caught close to 100 balls in college at Tulsa and also played some RB, FB. Mostly lines up at TE for the Dolphins. Not sure when MFL will switch him to his proper position. either way, he's getting more involved in the offense each week and expect him to grow in his role
The few times I've seen Miami play, he was playing FB - although he did go out on pass patterns.
Their official website lists him as TE/FB.
 
Some of my favorites:

John Skelton

Da'Rel Scott

Kyle Rudolph

Julius Thomas (might not emerge until 2013)

I believe Skelton, Scott, & Rudolph have a decent chance of breaking out next season, but like Thomas, all three may need another year.

 
Some of my favorites:John SkeltonDa'Rel ScottKyle RudolphJulius Thomas (might not emerge until 2013)I believe Skelton, Scott, & Rudolph have a decent chance of breaking out next season, but like Thomas, all three may need another year.
just don't see how Skelton has a decent chance. They are locked in with Kolb. The rest of those guys are probably owned in most dynasty leagues...
 
QBs

Matt Flynn, GB

Josh Johnson, TB

RB

Baron Batch, Pit

Mike Goodson, CAR

Alex Green, GB

Brandon Jackson, CLE

Taiwan Jones, OAK

WR

Golden Tate, SEA

Eddie Royal, DEN

Taylor Price, NE

Blar White, IND

Ramses Barden, NYG

Adrian Arrington, NO

TE

John Carlson, SEA

Jordan Cameron, CLE

 
I'm thinking about picking up Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure this weekend and putting them on IR and see how they pan out during training camp.
Neither of these two is on an WW in any Dynasty league Im in. I do think they are worth while trade targets however.
 
I'm thinking about picking up Ryan Williams or Mikel Leshoure this weekend and putting them on IR and see how they pan out during training camp.
Neither of these two is on an WW in any Dynasty league Im in. I do think they are worth while trade targets however.
Does anyone remember which Audible episode Jene Bramel talked about these guys and how they may come back from their injuries?
 
'bexdawg said:
QBsMatt Flynn, GBJosh Johnson, TBRBBaron Batch, PitMike Goodson, CARAlex Green, GBBrandon Jackson, CLETaiwan Jones, OAKWRGolden Tate, SEAEddie Royal, DENTaylor Price, NEBlar White, INDRamses Barden, NYGAdrian Arrington, NOTEJohn Carlson, SEAJordan Cameron, CLE
all owned except in all my dynasty leagues except for Blair White, Adrian Arringon, and Jordan Cameron.Blair White: He can't seem to get healthy this year let alone if he was getting full reps. With Gonzo, Garcon, and Wayne all free agents opportunity could be there though. Very tempting.Adrian Arrington: Not sure why he's on your list. really hasn't done a whole lot even with injuries in New Orleans. What is the upside?Jordan Cameron: love the upside, but his opportunity likely won't come anytime soon with Watson signed through 2012 and Moore signed through 2013...do you think he beats those guys out?
 
A guy I just scooped was Chastin West. Another Packer practice squad WR that was claimed by Jax. Guy has great size and good speed. Played awesome in the preseason and then splashed a little last week. If you are looking toward the future, couldn't hurt to drop that 2nd D to take a flier on this guy

 
I stashed Donald Brown after he was dropped earlier in the year. I think he finds a new home in 2012, with the potential to be a solid play in the near future if he settles in to the right location.
I have been a fan of him all along. Here's my reasoning that he may break out next year:1) He is healthy this year and has been Indy's best back when they let him on the field.

2) He can catch and has good RAC; again, IND has under utilized this skill.

3) The IND run scheme out of the shot gun does not favor Brown's skills; if he goes somewhere that runs a traditional pro offense with a good blocking FB he will do better.

My only question is this: won't he still be under roster with Indy next year? As long as they have the same coaching staff and offense, I am not confident he will break out in IND.
Looks like he's under contract with IND for 2 more years. If he finds a new home, it will have to happen via a trade.

 
Charles Clay FB/TE Miami- he caught close to 100 balls in college at Tulsa and also played some RB, FB. Mostly lines up at TE for the Dolphins. Not sure when MFL will switch him to his proper position. either way, he's getting more involved in the offense each week and expect him to grow in his role
The few times I've seen Miami play, he was playing FB - although he did go out on pass patterns.
I think he's in the mold of an H-Back type of guy which makes sense.
 
My stashes:

Cecil Shorts - starting to be dropped in a lot of places (depending on size of rosters); not much in the way of competition on the roster

Rob Housler - Great pass catching TE; Heap's old and injured

Jordan Cameron - Another basketball convert at TE; Watson/Moore won't be much competition once he starts picking things up

Johnny White - FJax is old; Spiller won't be a bell cow even if he sees more touches

 
'Papa Georgio said:
What are the thoughts on Alex Green these days since he tore up his knee?
I'm not really interested in any Packer RB. Unless they draft someone dynamic that demands carries I think they stay consistent and throw the ball a lot even when ahead by a large margin.
 
My stashes:

Cecil Shorts - starting to be dropped in a lot of places (depending on size of rosters); not much in the way of competition on the roster
Shorts is running behind Dillard and West right now??? Likely reason he is being dropped. Dillard and West are both young with potential too...Shorts spot is getting tougher to holdAnother guy I was just thinking about is Baron Batch RB Pitt. He was tearing it up in the preseason and just started running http://baronbatch.com/

 
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