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What a mess this sounds like

According to ESPN's Ed Werder and Chris Mortensen, Jones and Garrett have a disagreement over who the offensive playcaller should be.

The pair are on the verge of a compromise in hiring Linehan, who has a close relationship with Garrett.

One source who expects Linehan to be hired speculated he could have the title of passing game coordinator while also being designated the Cowboys' playcaller. If so, Linehan would become the third different offensive playcaller in three seasons in Dallas, following Garrett and Callahan.

In a setup one source described as "strange" and "dysfunctional," Garrett ceded play-calling authority to Callahan a year ago in what appeared to be a change mandated by Jones.

If Linehan is hired, the Cowboys could make Callahan the run game coordinator and Linehan the passing game coordinator. The Cowboys have employed a similar arrangement in the past.

But this potential move would upset Callahan, who also resides as the offensive line coach. Callahan was given credit for improving the line, which produced left tackle Tyron Smith’s first Pro Bowl selection and saw rookie center and 2013 first-round pick, Travis Frederick have a solid season.
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4723760/source-callahan-would-be-upset-if-linehan-is-hired
Sounds like a mess. Guys are afraid of hurting feelings and stepping on toes, clear the whole lot out and give Nick Saban 10 million a year to coach and bring a staff.

 
So the Lions get rid of Linehan and Dallas picks him up. It makes sense to me that Garrett would like him because the guy lloves to pass the ball. He'll do a good job of making Dez a focus point in the offense, however I doubt Murray will be his friend although RB screens were popular in Detroit.

This is Garrett's last hurrah, this goes up in smoke he will get burned too this time as he is the one pushing to get Linehan. If you can't make it work with all the offensive weapons you have in Detroit, I am not sure how he hopes to make Dallas a better team.

 
The Linehan signing, the Bailey contract, refusing to let Calahan leave despite demoting him, the defense struggling and looking for a fall guy... And the soap opera continues.

There's one constant in this ridiculous mess, and until that variable changes, it's all deck chairs on the Titanic.

 
There's a good post over at Blogging the Boys about the Linehan hire. In essence, Garrett trusts him. He didn't trust Callahan with play call duties. Garrett took back the play call duties mid-season because he didn't like what Callahan was doing there. The article discusses the in-game info flow to further support this point.

Callahan is a good OL coach. And I suspect that the Linehan hire is to allow him to focus on that part of his duties (a pseudo-demotion, yes). But the bigger potential implication of the Linehan hire is that it frees up Garrett from play calling to be more of a game manager, something we all agree he needs to improve upon.

Best case is that this hiring allows Garrett to stop making those stupid game management decisions that have cost this team a win or two a season. Worst case is no real impact except to Callahan. But in the big picture, unless and until they can get a lot more quality NFL players up and down the roster, this team isn't a SB contender. And that's not a coach issue.

 
Can't make this stuff up:

A source tells ESPN's Ed Werder the Cowboys are refusing to let OL coach Bill Callahan out of the final year of his contract because he's a "potential interim head coach" if Jason Garrett is fired mid-season.
In other words, the Cowboys are (allegedly) creating instability in anticipation of future instability. Even for owner/GM Jerry Jones, that would be a new one. If the source's report is true, it's less clear than ever why 'ol Jer continues to stick with Garrett. Jones has no faith in Garrett's ability to oversee the offense, while Garrett's in-game decision making remained amongst the worst in the league in 2013. Jan 28 - 6:11 PM
Source: Ed Werder on Twitter
ESPN Dallas reports Cowboys OC Bill Callahan "isn't happy" with Scott Linehan's impending hire, and is "thinking about his future."
Linehan is being hired to replace Callahan, but the Cowboys have no intention of letting Callahan out of the final year of his contract. Callahan is a highly-respected line coach, but it would be unusual to force a demoted assistant to serve out his deal if he desired to leave. That's apparently want Callahan wants to do. It's yet another sideshow for an organization that specializes in them.
Source: ESPN Dallas Jan 28 - 5:25 PM
 
Starting to get really strange around Valley Ranch and that's saying something.

Callahan and Kiffin demoted. Linehan hired and Marinelli promoted. Crazy bat shi t happening. :shrug:

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282601/cowboys-officially-add-scott-linehan-to-staff

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282599/cowboys-admit-mistake-demote-dc-monte-kiffin
It's just shuffling pawns around. That's all that's left. Jerry makes terrible financial decisions that erode their cap position to bring in quality players, and he lacks the humility he needs to bring in good football minds to compensate for the talent deficits. Same story different offseason.

 
Starting to get really strange around Valley Ranch and that's saying something.

Callahan and Kiffin demoted. Linehan hired and Marinelli promoted. Crazy bat shi t happening. :shrug:

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282601/cowboys-officially-add-scott-linehan-to-staff

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/282599/cowboys-admit-mistake-demote-dc-monte-kiffin
It's just shuffling pawns around. That's all that's left. Jerry makes terrible financial decisions that erode their cap position to bring in quality players, and he lacks the humility he needs to bring in good football minds to compensate for the talent deficits. Same story different offseason.
Sad but true. It all starts at the top. Sigh.

 
Cowboys hired ex-Lions OC Scott Linehan as passing-game coordinator.

The title is fooling no one, while the Cowboys have already announced Linehan will be calling plays. Bill Callahan will retain his OC title and coach the offensive line, but reportedly isn't happy, and would like to move on. Dallas has made it clear it wants Callahan to remain with the team, rejecting a request from the Browns to interview him for their offensive-coordinator vacancy. It's been yet another offseason of coaching turmoil in Dallas
Cowboys promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.

The move ends Monte Kiffin's disastrous one-year tenure as the Cowboys' coordinator. It's a clear upgrade, one that won't require an overhaul of Kiffin's "scheme." Marinelli espouses the same Tampa 2 principles as his former boss Kiffin. Marinelli served as Lovie Smith's defensive coordinator in Chicago from 2010-12. Marinelli isn't going to work any miracles with the bare cupboard GM Jerry Jones has left him on defense, but should resurrect the unit from the near all-time worst depths it plunged last season. Eight days after saying both Kiffin and OC Bill Callahan were safe, Jones has upgraded at both spots.
Cowboys demoted DC Monte Kiffin to assistant head coach.

DL coach Rod Marinelli has been promoted to defensive coordinator. The move comes eight days after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted "nothing has changed" with his coordinators. Now, both have been demoted. Kiffin is one of the most respected defensive minds in the history of the modern game, but it was clear the league had passed him by last season. A wave of injuries made matters worse, but Kiffin's unit simply didn't compete, allowing 280 more yards than any other defense in football. It's a sad end to Kiffin's coordinating career, but doesn't tarnish what he accomplished in Tampa Bay. It's definitely the right move for the Cowboys.
I hope Jerry knows what he is doing. These moves look like something a person with no experience would do if they just bought a team and wanted to destroy it's coaching morale.

 
Cowboys hired ex-Lions OC Scott Linehan as passing-game coordinator.

The title is fooling no one, while the Cowboys have already announced Linehan will be calling plays. Bill Callahan will retain his OC title and coach the offensive line, but reportedly isn't happy, and would like to move on. Dallas has made it clear it wants Callahan to remain with the team, rejecting a request from the Browns to interview him for their offensive-coordinator vacancy. It's been yet another offseason of coaching turmoil in Dallas
Cowboys promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.

The move ends Monte Kiffin's disastrous one-year tenure as the Cowboys' coordinator. It's a clear upgrade, one that won't require an overhaul of Kiffin's "scheme." Marinelli espouses the same Tampa 2 principles as his former boss Kiffin. Marinelli served as Lovie Smith's defensive coordinator in Chicago from 2010-12. Marinelli isn't going to work any miracles with the bare cupboard GM Jerry Jones has left him on defense, but should resurrect the unit from the near all-time worst depths it plunged last season. Eight days after saying both Kiffin and OC Bill Callahan were safe, Jones has upgraded at both spots.
Cowboys demoted DC Monte Kiffin to assistant head coach.

DL coach Rod Marinelli has been promoted to defensive coordinator. The move comes eight days after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted "nothing has changed" with his coordinators. Now, both have been demoted. Kiffin is one of the most respected defensive minds in the history of the modern game, but it was clear the league had passed him by last season. A wave of injuries made matters worse, but Kiffin's unit simply didn't compete, allowing 280 more yards than any other defense in football. It's a sad end to Kiffin's coordinating career, but doesn't tarnish what he accomplished in Tampa Bay. It's definitely the right move for the Cowboys.
I hope Jerry knows what he is doing. These moves look like something a person with no experience would do if they just bought a team and wanted to destroy it's coaching morale.
There's a couple of ways to look at his moves:

1) As you said, a person with no experience who has no idea what he's doing

2) A person who's loyal to a fault and has issues firing people -- he doesn't want to can Garrett just yet, doesn't want to can Kiffin, doesn't want to can Calahan

3) A person who's actually somewhat smart (at least in realizing these hires are probable upgrades) but doesn't comprehend organizational behavior AT ALL

Unfortunately for Cowboys fans, none of the three should be running an NFL franchise.

He's the new Al Davis. Period.

 
Cowboys hired ex-Lions OC Scott Linehan as passing-game coordinator.

The title is fooling no one, while the Cowboys have already announced Linehan will be calling plays. Bill Callahan will retain his OC title and coach the offensive line, but reportedly isn't happy, and would like to move on. Dallas has made it clear it wants Callahan to remain with the team, rejecting a request from the Browns to interview him for their offensive-coordinator vacancy. It's been yet another offseason of coaching turmoil in Dallas
Cowboys promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.

The move ends Monte Kiffin's disastrous one-year tenure as the Cowboys' coordinator. It's a clear upgrade, one that won't require an overhaul of Kiffin's "scheme." Marinelli espouses the same Tampa 2 principles as his former boss Kiffin. Marinelli served as Lovie Smith's defensive coordinator in Chicago from 2010-12. Marinelli isn't going to work any miracles with the bare cupboard GM Jerry Jones has left him on defense, but should resurrect the unit from the near all-time worst depths it plunged last season. Eight days after saying both Kiffin and OC Bill Callahan were safe, Jones has upgraded at both spots.
Cowboys demoted DC Monte Kiffin to assistant head coach.

DL coach Rod Marinelli has been promoted to defensive coordinator. The move comes eight days after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted "nothing has changed" with his coordinators. Now, both have been demoted. Kiffin is one of the most respected defensive minds in the history of the modern game, but it was clear the league had passed him by last season. A wave of injuries made matters worse, but Kiffin's unit simply didn't compete, allowing 280 more yards than any other defense in football. It's a sad end to Kiffin's coordinating career, but doesn't tarnish what he accomplished in Tampa Bay. It's definitely the right move for the Cowboys.
I hope Jerry knows what he is doing. These moves look like something a person with no experience would do if they just bought a team and wanted to destroy it's coaching morale.
There's a couple of ways to look at his moves:

1) As you said, a person with no experience who has no idea what he's doing

2) A person who's loyal to a fault and has issues firing people -- he doesn't want to can Garrett just yet, doesn't want to can Kiffin, doesn't want to can Calahan

3) A person who's actually somewhat smart (at least in realizing these hires are probable upgrades) but doesn't comprehend organizational behavior AT ALL

Unfortunately for Cowboys fans, none of the three should be running an NFL franchise.

He's the new Al Davis. Period.
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.

We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?

 
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.


We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
That they were fired instead?

 
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.


We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
That they were fired instead?
Callahan may still leave somehow...seems like some bad blood that has yet to play out. But he did a decent job with the O-line and if he's willing, I'd like to see him continue to work there.

Kiffin is still much respected around the league, it was just painfully obvious that he shouldn't be a coordinator anymore. Well, now he isn't, so we have an upgrade. But I can see good reasons for keeping someone with all that institutional knowledge around if players are still willing to listen to him and respect him. I haven't read anything about how the players feel about these moves...just media pre-super bowl hype.

 
Cowboys hired ex-Lions OC Scott Linehan as passing-game coordinator.

The title is fooling no one, while the Cowboys have already announced Linehan will be calling plays. Bill Callahan will retain his OC title and coach the offensive line, but reportedly isn't happy, and would like to move on. Dallas has made it clear it wants Callahan to remain with the team, rejecting a request from the Browns to interview him for their offensive-coordinator vacancy. It's been yet another offseason of coaching turmoil in Dallas
Cowboys promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.

The move ends Monte Kiffin's disastrous one-year tenure as the Cowboys' coordinator. It's a clear upgrade, one that won't require an overhaul of Kiffin's "scheme." Marinelli espouses the same Tampa 2 principles as his former boss Kiffin. Marinelli served as Lovie Smith's defensive coordinator in Chicago from 2010-12. Marinelli isn't going to work any miracles with the bare cupboard GM Jerry Jones has left him on defense, but should resurrect the unit from the near all-time worst depths it plunged last season. Eight days after saying both Kiffin and OC Bill Callahan were safe, Jones has upgraded at both spots.
Cowboys demoted DC Monte Kiffin to assistant head coach.

DL coach Rod Marinelli has been promoted to defensive coordinator. The move comes eight days after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted "nothing has changed" with his coordinators. Now, both have been demoted. Kiffin is one of the most respected defensive minds in the history of the modern game, but it was clear the league had passed him by last season. A wave of injuries made matters worse, but Kiffin's unit simply didn't compete, allowing 280 more yards than any other defense in football. It's a sad end to Kiffin's coordinating career, but doesn't tarnish what he accomplished in Tampa Bay. It's definitely the right move for the Cowboys.
I hope Jerry knows what he is doing. These moves look like something a person with no experience would do if they just bought a team and wanted to destroy it's coaching morale.
There's a couple of ways to look at his moves:

1) As you said, a person with no experience who has no idea what he's doing

2) A person who's loyal to a fault and has issues firing people -- he doesn't want to can Garrett just yet, doesn't want to can Kiffin, doesn't want to can Calahan

3) A person who's actually somewhat smart (at least in realizing these hires are probable upgrades) but doesn't comprehend organizational behavior AT ALL

Unfortunately for Cowboys fans, none of the three should be running an NFL franchise.

He's the new Al Davis. Period.
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.

We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
generally demoted employees are not happy employees

generally a team wants chemistry in their coaches, not coaches forced to stay because the team has them captive

if you factor out ACTUAL PEOPLE with actual feelings perhaps there is some logic to this move, keep kiffin around but make marinelli the DC I get it, but these are actual people who have actual feelings, and disgruntled coaches are not good for a team

and maybe kiffin is fine with it, but it sure seems callahan is not

 
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.


We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
That they were fired instead?
Maybe Jerry is on to something. Don't fire your coaches and have to pay them but demote them and keep them around as you have to pay them one way or another. And if they quit, you don't have to pay them(I'm assuming that if they quit that they don't get paid). Genius!

 
jkruppe said:
humpback said:
jkruppe said:
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.


We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
That they were fired instead?
Callahan may still leave somehow...seems like some bad blood that has yet to play out. But he did a decent job with the O-line and if he's willing, I'd like to see him continue to work there.

Kiffin is still much respected around the league, it was just painfully obvious that he shouldn't be a coordinator anymore. Well, now he isn't, so we have an upgrade. But I can see good reasons for keeping someone with all that institutional knowledge around if players are still willing to listen to him and respect him. I haven't read anything about how the players feel about these moves...just media pre-super bowl hype.
Yeah, the report is Callahan wants to leave, but Jerry isn't letting him, lol. I don't see how anyone can think it's a good idea to keep around guys who clearly didn't perform well, and now they're going to be unhappy on top of that.

Yes, Kiffin is still respected around the league- for what he did many years ago. He's a dinosaur.

 
jkruppe said:
Cowboys hired ex-Lions OC Scott Linehan as passing-game coordinator.

The title is fooling no one, while the Cowboys have already announced Linehan will be calling plays. Bill Callahan will retain his OC title and coach the offensive line, but reportedly isn't happy, and would like to move on. Dallas has made it clear it wants Callahan to remain with the team, rejecting a request from the Browns to interview him for their offensive-coordinator vacancy. It's been yet another offseason of coaching turmoil in Dallas
Cowboys promoted DL coach Rod Marinelli to defensive coordinator.

The move ends Monte Kiffin's disastrous one-year tenure as the Cowboys' coordinator. It's a clear upgrade, one that won't require an overhaul of Kiffin's "scheme." Marinelli espouses the same Tampa 2 principles as his former boss Kiffin. Marinelli served as Lovie Smith's defensive coordinator in Chicago from 2010-12. Marinelli isn't going to work any miracles with the bare cupboard GM Jerry Jones has left him on defense, but should resurrect the unit from the near all-time worst depths it plunged last season. Eight days after saying both Kiffin and OC Bill Callahan were safe, Jones has upgraded at both spots.
Cowboys demoted DC Monte Kiffin to assistant head coach.

DL coach Rod Marinelli has been promoted to defensive coordinator. The move comes eight days after Cowboys owner Jerry Jones insisted "nothing has changed" with his coordinators. Now, both have been demoted. Kiffin is one of the most respected defensive minds in the history of the modern game, but it was clear the league had passed him by last season. A wave of injuries made matters worse, but Kiffin's unit simply didn't compete, allowing 280 more yards than any other defense in football. It's a sad end to Kiffin's coordinating career, but doesn't tarnish what he accomplished in Tampa Bay. It's definitely the right move for the Cowboys.
I hope Jerry knows what he is doing. These moves look like something a person with no experience would do if they just bought a team and wanted to destroy it's coaching morale.
There's a couple of ways to look at his moves:

1) As you said, a person with no experience who has no idea what he's doing

2) A person who's loyal to a fault and has issues firing people -- he doesn't want to can Garrett just yet, doesn't want to can Kiffin, doesn't want to can Calahan

3) A person who's actually somewhat smart (at least in realizing these hires are probable upgrades) but doesn't comprehend organizational behavior AT ALL

Unfortunately for Cowboys fans, none of the three should be running an NFL franchise.

He's the new Al Davis. Period.
We all know Jerry's a tool and a lousy personnel guy, and that's not changing anytime soon. But, Kiffin did a horrible job and got demoted. Callahan did a horrible job and got demoted. Marinelli moving to DC should be an upgrade over Kiffin. Linehan had success with the Lions offense, so I don't see why he couldn't bring that same type of success here.We all wanted change from last season and now we're getting it. Other than Ed Werder trying to stir up crap during a slow media week, I don't get all the hate. What moves would you rather see?
Not all of "us" wanted change. As you probably recall, when some of us said we'd had it and called for an overhaul, there were some who said everything was fine, just a few tweaks away, don't really change anything. You guys won. You kept your coaching staff, adding only Linehan. Otherwise, you kept Garrett, you kept Kiffin, you kept Marinelli, you kept Callahan, you kept your awful cap position made worse by signing a ####### kicker for 80 gazillion dollars. You got the guaranteed continuity of mediocrity you asked for. I hope your happy, because you and simmonj got everything you wanted....core the same, tweak the fringes.

 
There's a good post over at Blogging the Boys about the Linehan hire. In essence, Garrett trusts him. He didn't trust Callahan with play call duties. Garrett took back the play call duties mid-season because he didn't like what Callahan was doing there. The article discusses the in-game info flow to further support this point.

Callahan is a good OL coach. And I suspect that the Linehan hire is to allow him to focus on that part of his duties (a pseudo-demotion, yes). But the bigger potential implication of the Linehan hire is that it frees up Garrett from play calling to be more of a game manager, something we all agree he needs to improve upon.

Best case is that this hiring allows Garrett to stop making those stupid game management decisions that have cost this team a win or two a season. Worst case is no real impact except to Callahan. But in the big picture, unless and until they can get a lot more quality NFL players up and down the roster, this team isn't a SB contender. And that's not a coach issue.
Wasn't the Callahan hire supposed to free Garrett up for last year?

 
There's a good post over at Blogging the Boys about the Linehan hire. In essence, Garrett trusts him. He didn't trust Callahan with play call duties. Garrett took back the play call duties mid-season because he didn't like what Callahan was doing there. The article discusses the in-game info flow to further support this point.

Callahan is a good OL coach. And I suspect that the Linehan hire is to allow him to focus on that part of his duties (a pseudo-demotion, yes). But the bigger potential implication of the Linehan hire is that it frees up Garrett from play calling to be more of a game manager, something we all agree he needs to improve upon.

Best case is that this hiring allows Garrett to stop making those stupid game management decisions that have cost this team a win or two a season. Worst case is no real impact except to Callahan. But in the big picture, unless and until they can get a lot more quality NFL players up and down the roster, this team isn't a SB contender. And that's not a coach issue.
Wasn't the Callahan hire supposed to free Garrett up for last year?
Yep. And it became clear that Garrett didn't like what Callahan was doing running the offense and took it back mid-season. Maybe now with Linehan, he'll be able to let it go. I'm not going to count on it, but one can hope. But even if it does, the team still doesn't have the needed talent to win a SB unless a whole lot of luck is involved..

 

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