*** 2013 Official Philadelphia Eagles - NFC EAST CHAMPS*** (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Ravens are saying Castillo will be joining team as a consultant for next two weeks before joining staff. Juan's going to the Super Bowl!!

 

[JAA]

Not sure if this was discussed yet, but I'll bring it up if not. My friends and I were talking last night and one of them brought up Alex Smith as a possible QB for the Eagles since it's pretty clear that SF won't keep him. I don't think he's all that bad, but I'd rather let Foles get his shot.What do you all think?

I'd take Smith in a heartbeat over Foles. Smith can be very mobile and I think has struggled with having soooo many coordinators and different systems thrust upon him. Get rid of Vick and sign Smith and let Foles learn. Sounds good to me!

Getting rid of Vick and bringing in Smith makes a lot of sense. Have a completely open QB competition and go from there. I would like to see an intriguing prospect as QB3 ...

 

[renesauz]

Not sure if this was discussed yet, but I'll bring it up if not. My friends and I were talking last night and one of them brought up Alex Smith as a possible QB for the Eagles since it's pretty clear that SF won't keep him. I don't think he's all that bad, but I'd rather let Foles get his shot.What do you all think?

I think Smith is under-rated/under-appeciated, but I too would like to see Foles get a legit shot.

 

[Billy Bats]

Alex Smith? He may be somewhat mobile, but I dont think he has the mobility for a Chip Kelly offense. I could be way wrong, please tell me.

 

[Awful Waffle]

He has much better mobility than Foles (who doesn't) and ran the spread at Utah with Urban Meyer. I don't see the point in bringing him in. Go with Foles for a year and draft someone in 2014.Also, anyone else think it's possible they already have a DC? Seems foolish to hire a bunch of guys before the coordinator, and after the whole Castillo/Washburn thing, the front office should know better.

 

[Nucker101]

Not sure if this was discussed yet, but I'll bring it up if not. My friends and I were talking last night and one of them brought up Alex Smith as a possible QB for the Eagles since it's pretty clear that SF won't keep him. I don't think he's all that bad, but I'd rather let Foles get his shot.What do you all think?

I think Smith is under-rated/under-appeciated, but I too would like to see Foles get a legit shot.

Agree with this.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Also, anyone else think it's possible they already have a DC? Seems foolish to hire a bunch of guys before the coordinator, and after the whole Castillo/Washburn thing, the front office should know better.

Reuben Frank said on twitter that he believes they already have a DC. Many are speculating that its SF's DB coach, Ed DonatellAnother name I heard on the radio was Teryl Austin

 

[Insein]

Also, anyone else think it's possible they already have a DC? Seems foolish to hire a bunch of guys before the coordinator, and after the whole Castillo/Washburn thing, the front office should know better.

Reuben Frank said on twitter that he believes they already have a DC. Many are speculating that its SF's DB coach, Ed Donatell

He's been around the league and has DC experience in both the NFL and college. Looks like a guy who's hungry for another shot at a DC position. Seems to have been biding his time in college and as a positional coach. I would be ok with this.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Philly is gonna love this guy.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Anyone else having issues with th audio?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

No issues here. This video has been passed around my office and now everyone is yelling about how violent they can be.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@Jeff_McLane: Syr QB Ryan Nassib said he sat down w/ #Eagles HC Chip Kelly and GM Howie Roseman last night. Spoke mostly about offense he ran in school.

 

[Nagle2998]

@Jeff_McLane: Syr QB Ryan Nassib said he sat down w/ #Eagles HC Chip Kelly and GM Howie Roseman last night. Spoke mostly about offense he ran in school.

Yeah I know Chip said he doesnt need to run a certain offense to win but I think its a smoke screen I believe he is going to draft someone just like Nassib

 

[Insein]

@Jeff_McLane: Syr QB Ryan Nassib said he sat down w/ #Eagles HC Chip Kelly and GM Howie Roseman last night. Spoke mostly about offense he ran in school.

Yeah I know Chip said he doesnt need to run a certain offense to win but I think its a smoke screen I believe he is going to draft someone just like Nassib

Obviously he's going to do what he thinks is best but I just don't see him reaching for a QB as his first move. Would seem a bit desperate for a guy with a 5 year contract and an owner that has shown he will give you time. I think he takes a QB but not with the first rounder. I think people are starting to have Nassib creep up the board. I don't even know if a 2nd rounder is worth it though. Maybe Third.

 

[ShaHBucks]

@Jeff_McLane: Syr QB Ryan Nassib said he sat down w/ #Eagles HC Chip Kelly and GM Howie Roseman last night. Spoke mostly about offense he ran in school.

Yeah I know Chip said he doesnt need to run a certain offense to win but I think its a smoke screen I believe he is going to draft someone just like Nassib

Obviously he's going to do what he thinks is best but I just don't see him reaching for a QB as his first move. Would seem a bit desperate for a guy with a 5 year contract and an owner that has shown he will give you time. I think he takes a QB but not with the first rounder. I think people are starting to have Nassib creep up the board. I don't even know if a 2nd rounder is worth it though. Maybe Third.

I would rather suck for 2-3 years than gamble my franchise on the QB's at the top of these mockdrafts. Foles is easily better than any QB's in this draft. Nassib has a cannon arm but I don't think the Eagles are that desperate to reach for a QB right now. The whole system thing really scares me because top QB's don't care about a system. All Peyton, Brees, Brady and Rodgers ever needed was a ok O-Line, a playbook and the green light to call audibles. If Chip Kelly goes the "system rout" I'll bet that he won't last long in the league.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Would anyone be cool with Nassib in round 2?

 

[SouthJersey]

I don't want the Eagles to draft a QB this year. Build the lines and the secondary. See what you have in Foles. If he blows, then make a move next year, but I think we need to build a foundation 1st.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Keep an eye on Marcus Mariota. He'll be eligible for the 2014 draft (albeit as a RS SO) and Chip loved him. He's big, accurate, and mobile. Could he declare and flat out say "I want to play for the Eagles"? Also think Tajh Boyd would be a great fit. Really bummed he went back for his senior year.

 

[babydemon90]

I don't want the Eagles to draft a QB this year. Build the lines and the secondary. See what you have in Foles. If he blows, then make a move next year, but I think we need to build a foundation 1st.

this. Happy to see if Foles has more to him or not, while we get some surrounding cast in place.

 

[scratcher]

Give Foles a year. If you don't like what you see, get Johnny Football in 2014.

 

[Ash]

Give Foles a year. If you don't like what you see, get Johnny Football in 2014.

I hate the nickname "Johnny Football". Don't know anything about the guy and I already think he's a #####.ETA: Seriously? Doosh is banned?

 

[Ash]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

 

[Nucker101]

I don't want the Eagles to draft a QB this year. Build the lines and the secondary. See what you have in Foles. If he blows, then make a move next year, but I think we need to build a foundation 1st.

 

[Insein]

Would anyone be cool with Nassib in round 2?

Not me. Waste of a pick IMO when we already have a questionable QB on the roster.

 

[JackReacher]

Would anyone be cool with Nassib in round 2?

Not me. Waste of a pick IMO when we already have a questionable QB on the roster.

What about that ESPN.com report that Kelly likes Terrelle Pryor? Reeked of pure apeculation to me.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Would anyone be cool with Nassib in round 2?

Not me. Waste of a pick IMO when we already have a questionable QB on the roster.

I agree. I know nothing about the kid but he seems like someone who's making noise at the Senior Bowl. Some were saying he could go to the Bills in round 1 but I think that has more to do with how their coach is then anything else.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.

The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.

I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.

They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

I might be mis-remembering events, but didn't HOU get rid of Ryans specifically because he couldn't play in a 3-4?

 

[Polish Hammer]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.

The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.

I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.

They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

I might be mis-remembering events, but didn't HOU get rid of Ryans specifically because he couldn't play in a 3-4?

Some say his play was down b/c he was coming back from his Achilles (?) injury. Lots of people said he was not a good fit in the 3-4. Maybe a combo that could be alleviated to a degree with his seeming return to health?2007 - 99 solos

2008 - 86 solos

2009 - 93 solos

2010 - 32 solos (6 games - injured)

2011 - 44 solos (full season - actually 18 games counting playoffs, now in a 3-4)

Ouch.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.

The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.

I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.

They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

I might be mis-remembering events, but didn't HOU get rid of Ryans specifically because he couldn't play in a 3-4?

No. They got rid of him because he was not going to be their 3-down LBer anymmore (Cushing was) and he was one of the highest paid LBers (4th I believe) in the league at the time.

 

[Please See Mine]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.

The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.

I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.

They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

I might be mis-remembering events, but didn't HOU get rid of Ryans specifically because he couldn't play in a 3-4?

No. They got rid of him because he was not going to be their 3-down LBer anymmore (Cushing was) and he was one of the highest paid LBers (4th I believe) in the league at the time.

Yeah, this is more or less what Jeff McLane said last night on the radio.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Since there was a bit of discussion on who could play where if the Eagles started using a 3-4 front I watched a few games over the last couple of days from the Packers, Texans and 49ers to catch up on how the 3-4 teams are playing D these days. I admit most of my understanding of that defense comes from the Steelers and probably wasn't current as the 3-4 has mostly been an AFC thing.

The Texans use their base 3-4 look around half the time, similar to a 4-3 team's based D, and when they're in that they rush the 3 DL and 2 OLB every play. If they don't want to rush 5 either situationally, or based on coverage requirements due to the Offense's personnel they take a DE off the field replace him with a CB and line up one of the OLB with his hand on the ground as a DE. A 3-3-5 but basically the same as a standard 4-2-5 nickel with a DE standing up. They use it about half the time. In that base formation, the ILBs are picking up RBs and TEs in man a lot of the time and I think it becomes relatively easy to isolate those guys in a mismatch by formation, especially a team like the Pats which can line up a lot of different ways with the same guys on the field. Kendricks can hold his own in coverage but doesn't play the run well enough to deal with Gs coming at him and Ryans would be exposed in man coverage. Cole and Graham would be able to slot straight into those OLB roles in that kind of scheme though.

I think the players, especially Watt obviously are the reason their D is so strong, scheme wise I wasn't that impressed and Wade Phillips probably gets too much credit for their results.

They were the only team that has those guys rush 100% of the time, each of the others has their OLBs rush, or play both zone and man coverage, variously picking up RBs & TEs in man, and here and there a slot WR in zone. In that kind of D I think Kendricks is an OLB and Ryans would have less responsibility in coverage. If we had to play now I'd say Chaney at the other ILB spot, no idea what I'd do at other OLB spot.

I might be mis-remembering events, but didn't HOU get rid of Ryans specifically because he couldn't play in a 3-4?

No. They got rid of him because he was not going to be their 3-down LBer anymmore (Cushing was) and he was one of the highest paid LBers (4th I believe) in the league at the time.

Yeah, this is more or less what Jeff McLane said last night on the radio.

Heard Ray Didenger last week say this too about Ryans. He said some guys are just better fits for EITHER 3-4 or 4-3. He also remarked that he's sill not the player he was due to the injury.

 

[Jason Wood]

I love Nassib, just putting it out there.

And I think it would be crazy for Kelly not to draft a quarterback this year. Even if Foles pans out, we need a good backup on the cheap.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Dave Fipp (formerly of the Dolphins) is our new ST corridnator. @GeoffMosherCSN: Dolphins coach Joe Philbin just told me Dave Fipp was a great hire for the Eagles, so there's your official confirmation.@Jeff_McLane: RT @BenVolinPBP: #Eagles have hired Dave Fipp as their new special teams coordinator. Was Asst ST coach for Miami last two years@RoobCSN: Who is Dave Fipp? Here's my CSN story on the Eagles' 5th special teams coordinator in the last 7 years: http://t.co/imXiEo1t #EaglesTalk

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I love Nassib, just putting it out there.

And I think it would be crazy for Kelly not to draft a quarterback this year. Even if Foles pans out, we need a good backup on the cheap.

I agree. I'm thinking 3rd round though. Isn't Nassib considered a high/mid second round pick? I just think OL and CB should be their first two choices.

 

[delusional]

Give Foles a year. If you don't like what you see, get Johnny Football in 2014.

Draft Joeckel this year then you will have him protecting Johnny again! URLAKZERSSSEZZZZZZZZZZ!!!111!!!1

I love Nassib, just putting it out there.

And I think it would be crazy for Kelly not to draft a quarterback this year. Even if Foles pans out, we need a good backup on the cheap.

I agree. I'm thinking 3rd round though. Isn't Nassib considered a high/mid second round pick? I just think OL and CB should be their first two choices.

Yea I am hoping Joeckel is there. As bad as the defense has been lately, the Oline wasn't any better. If you can't protect the QB you can't win.

 

[Jason Wood]

I love Nassib, just putting it out there.

And I think it would be crazy for Kelly not to draft a quarterback this year. Even if Foles pans out, we need a good backup on the cheap.

I agree. I'm thinking 3rd round though. Isn't Nassib considered a high/mid second round pick? I just think OL and CB should be their first two choices.

I think when workouts and Pro Days are done, he'll be solidly in the 1st round.

 

[JetMaxx]

Give Foles a year. If you don't like what you see, get Johnny Football in 2014.

URLAKZERSSSEZZZZZZZZZZ!!!111!!!1

I knew you were a TATER on the loose.

 

[Awful Waffle]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

Fisher was a guy I mentioned earlier in the other Eagles thread that I would take if they wanted OL. Just saw this on Twitter tooJeff_McLane: Spoke to two NFL scouts that now have Eric Fisher slotted ahead of Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel. Most still see Joeckel as top tackle, tho.**ETA**It's really 4 or not at all for an OT. If they like him I'm fine with them taking him there. Depending on how we approach FA we SHOULD be in a good spot at #4 IMO

 

[Awful Waffle]

I'd like to grab at least one starting DB in free agency. Maybe a corner? I'd be okay with Nate Allen at safety, then you're looking at a corner and a safety in the draft instead of all 4. Not to mention OL depth and a possible 3-4 switch. Free agency should be interesting. That hasn't worked out for us the last year or two but we'll have cap space.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

Fisher was a guy I mentioned earlier in the other Eagles thread that I would take if they wanted OL. Just saw this on Twitter tooJeff_McLane: Spoke to two NFL scouts that now have Eric Fisher slotted ahead of Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel. Most still see Joeckel as top tackle, tho.**ETA**It's really 4 or not at all for an OT. If they like him I'm fine with them taking him there. Depending on how we approach FA we SHOULD be in a good spot at #4 IMO

I think all this will be a lot clearer after the Combine but, IMO, you don't leave the first round without a OT. Heck, I'd even be ok with them trading back a bit in Joeckel is gone as long as you think Fisher will be there. Worse comes to worse, take the CB from Bama.

 

[Insein]

I love Nassib, just putting it out there.

And I think it would be crazy for Kelly not to draft a quarterback this year. Even if Foles pans out, we need a good backup on the cheap.

Definitely think he'll grab a QB. Just don't see it til at least the 3rd round.

 

[Insein]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

Fisher was a guy I mentioned earlier in the other Eagles thread that I would take if they wanted OL. Just saw this on Twitter tooJeff_McLane: Spoke to two NFL scouts that now have Eric Fisher slotted ahead of Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel. Most still see Joeckel as top tackle, tho.**ETA**It's really 4 or not at all for an OT. If they like him I'm fine with them taking him there. Depending on how we approach FA we SHOULD be in a good spot at #4 IMO

Fisher doesn't look too bad. Only knock on him I see is that he's had a knee injury already in 2011 that ended his season. Of course injuries can happen any time. I think I'd be ok with him at 4 or perhaps drop back to the 6-10 range and grab another pick in the 2nd or 3rd. To me, oline needs to be infused with good, young talent and the easiest way to get an all pro tackle is at the top of the draft. If I was GM, that'd be my #1 priority.

 

[Insein]

I agree. I'm thinking 3rd round though. Isn't Nassib considered a high/mid second round pick? I just think OL and CB should be their first two choices.

I think all this will be a lot clearer after the Combine but, IMO, you don't leave the first round without a OT. Heck, I'd even be ok with them trading back a bit in Joeckel is gone as long as you think Fisher will be there. Worse comes to worse, take the CB from Bama.

That's funny. I didn't get to your posts before I made mine but we are on the same wavelength.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@RoobCSN: Here's another name for Chip Kelly's staff ... Mike Dawson. Title unknown. Coached with Kelly at New Hampshire.@Jeff_McLane: RT @phillysport: Central Michigan offensive tackle Eric Fisher could be #Eagles' radar, writes @Jeff_McLane: http://t.co/LusJaWox

 

[Bigboy10182000]

@GeoffMosherCSN: Need more proof #Eagles are switching to a 3-4? They told OLB/DE Mike Buchanan that he'd fit their scheme. The story: http://t.co/VNGrL3jk

 

[Deranged Hermit]

@GeoffMosherCSN: Need more proof #Eagles are switching to a 3-4? They told OLB/DE Mike Buchanan that he'd fit their scheme. The story: http://t.co/VNGrL3jk

To be honest, if there was ever a time to just blow up the defense and start from scratch, this is it. I'd probably just trade the pieces that wouldn't work out in a 3-4 (Trent Cole, Ryans) and try to get more picks.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

Fisher was a guy I mentioned earlier in the other Eagles thread that I would take if they wanted OL. Just saw this on Twitter tooJeff_McLane: Spoke to two NFL scouts that now have Eric Fisher slotted ahead of Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel. Most still see Joeckel as top tackle, tho.**ETA**It's really 4 or not at all for an OT. If they like him I'm fine with them taking him there. Depending on how we approach FA we SHOULD be in a good spot at #4 IMO

Fisher doesn't look too bad. Only knock on him I see is that he's had a knee injury already in 2011 that ended his season. Of course injuries can happen any time. I think I'd be ok with him at 4 or perhaps drop back to the 6-10 range and grab another pick in the 2nd or 3rd. To me, oline needs to be infused with good, young talent and the easiest way to get an all pro tackle is at the top of the draft. If I was GM, that'd be my #1 priority.

Dont know enough about either, so fill me in. Which of them is more athletic and can move better?

 

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@GeoffMosherCSN: Need more proof #Eagles are switching to a 3-4? They told OLB/DE Mike Buchanan that he'd fit their scheme. The story: http://t.co/VNGrL3jk

To be honest, if there was ever a time to just blow up the defense and start from scratch, this is it. I'd probably just trade the pieces that wouldn't work out in a 3-4 (Trent Cole, Ryans) and try to get more picks.

If Chip's looking to change the whole look and scheme of both the offense and defense, bite the bullet and do it in one fell swoop. There's realy no expectations this year and he should get at least a one year grace period from Lurie at least if not the fans too. Start getting the pieces in place and learning for a year or two from now. Trade guys that don't fit for picks or young guys with potential. See how everyone performs while we stink for a year (hopefully with a few bright spots). Load up again next draft with another high draft spot and go from there.

 

[Insein]

If Joeckel isn't there, Eric Fisher is really doing well at the Senior Bowl. Maybe 4 is a bit of a reach, but there aren't many guys I'm crazy about at that spot outside of Joeckel or Lotulelei.

Fisher was a guy I mentioned earlier in the other Eagles thread that I would take if they wanted OL. Just saw this on Twitter tooJeff_McLane: Spoke to two NFL scouts that now have Eric Fisher slotted ahead of Texas A&M tackle Luke Joeckel. Most still see Joeckel as top tackle, tho.**ETA**It's really 4 or not at all for an OT. If they like him I'm fine with them taking him there. Depending on how we approach FA we SHOULD be in a good spot at #4 IMO

Fisher doesn't look too bad. Only knock on him I see is that he's had a knee injury already in 2011 that ended his season. Of course injuries can happen any time. I think I'd be ok with him at 4 or perhaps drop back to the 6-10 range and grab another pick in the 2nd or 3rd. To me, oline needs to be infused with good, young talent and the easiest way to get an all pro tackle is at the top of the draft. If I was GM, that'd be my #1 priority.

Dont know enough about either, so fill me in. Which of them is more athletic and can move better?

Don't know off hand. Combine will probably spell it out more. IF I had to guess, I'd say Joeckel is a little more athletic than Fisher. Fisher is taller by about 2 inches. Joeckel is a little heavier. All the measurables on the field seem to be the same but obviously Joeckel is playing tougher competition at TAM than Fisher is at Central Michigan. Fisher's injury seems to be why the draft experts have him a tier lower than Joeckel though. I'd be happy with either but would obviously prefer Joeckel of the two.
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